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I live in USA East Coast, Been watching these LED's for some time now, have never owned a Projector and want a LED. Kinda waiting for them to get the bugs out before I purchase since this will have to last a long time since I am financially embarrassed. AVS has been a huge help... thank you all very much ! Anywayz I’ve been googling the new LG's Vivitek Qumi and I happened to run across this site, does anyone know if this is really available and know the site in general ? If it is a reputable site ? This seems like a really decent price for what your getting



$799.99 Free Shipping

LG Electronics PA70G Portable HD LED Projector with 700 ANSI Lumens, 1280 x 800 WXGA Resolution, HDMI Port
http://www.adorama.com/LOPA70G.html




This one is cheaper then the Optoma LM500 ! $549.99 Free Shipping


LG Electronics PB60G Portable HD LED Projector with 500 ANSI Lumens, 1280 x 800 WXGA Resolution, HDMI Port
http://www.adorama.com/LOPB60G.html


http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?op=itemlist&cat1=Audio%20Visual&cat2=Multimedia%20Projectors%20%26%20Display%20Monitors&cat3=Multimedia%20Projectors&feature1=LG%20Electronics



Guys ? Gals am I missing something here ? I am really excited about the prices is this for real or what ?



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i hope to have a review soon.

i have HW300 which is good, but black level is poor, means watching dark movies will be ruined.

i hope the one has a great black level
 

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Originally Posted by mishari84  /t/1416141/lg-pa70g-portable-hd-led-projector-700-ansi-lumens-1280-x-800-wxga#post_22140893


i hope to have a review soon.

i have HW300 which is good, but black level is poor, means watching dark movies will be ruined.

i hope the one has a great black level


I have FOUR HW300Ts and I am simply awed by the picture. I watched a 110 inch (2.35) movie last night in my family room and I was amazed at the image. (I have a 200 inch image in the living room, 80 inches in the master bedroom and a 70 inch image in the guest bedroom.) The colour saturation, contrast and blacks (on a white wall) made me wonder if my projector had been swapped for something different. I temporarily doubled my projectors for a superb SBS 3D image and now I am trying to decide on DIY screens and possibly and DIY anamorphic lens.


I am looking to see if there is any real improvement in the "newer" projectors (other than increased lumens) because when I set up my 3D tests I found that I had to drastically reduce the light output (with the polarizers in place) on my small high gain screen.


I bought my projectors on sale at Fry's. I have been trying to figure out when the other shoe is going to drop mean that I must be overlooking something. I am still reading everything I can about LED projectors and I have found none of the issues that have plagued the other "clones" because when I carefully read descriptions of similar problems I realize that my issues are quite minor.


In fact, I've wondered if the late production runs of my models were actually sample runs for the newer models. BTW, even the onboard media play upscales so well that most of my standard def movies seem high def.


So what are you watching and are your settings that yield poor black levels? Oh, I do not have equipment to test my projectors. I am just going off what I see.
 

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I am a noob, but the first obvious improvement over the LG HW300T other then the lumens is the contrast. 1000:1 vs 10,000:1


I spent a lot of time yesterday trying to find a complete English data sheet / PDF and could find NONE. Saw a lot of German sites with info, so i did my best translating and came up with this list. This is my interpretation and may be errors . As far as I know this data applies to the LG PA70G & LG PB60G (only lower lumens 500)



LG PA70G


Details: LED projector / DLP projector / home theater projector / 3D Projector / HDMI Projector /

Resolution: 720p HD, Native WXGA (1280 x 800)

DLP-Link3D Ready120Hz

Brightness: 700 ANSI lumens

Contrast Ratio: 10,000: 1

Illumination: >85%

Color Representation: 16.7 million

Picture Formats: 4:3 / 16:9

Projection Distance: 1.02 - 1.20 m

Throw ratio (throw ratio): 1.40: 1

Diagonal Screen Size: 20 (0.51 m) - 100 (2.54 meters) in

Lamp life: 30,000 hours

Lamp Type: LED

Noise: 34 dB / Noise (Eco-Mode): 26 dB

Focus: manual

Ports: HDMI, VGA input (D-Sub), USB Type A, Mini Jack Input, Mini Jack Output

Playback Formats: Office Files, JPEG, MP3, videos, PDF

Use: Portable (for traveling), Multimedia (home theater)

Projection types: Ceiling Projection, Front Projection, Rear Projection / Lighting: 85%

Video Signals: NTSC, PAL, SECAM, HDTV, 1080p, 1080i, 720p, EDTV, 576p, 480p, SDTV, 576i, 480i

Features: integrated media player, Keystone correction (Keystone), Mute, Auto signal search, energy saving function, multi-language OSD, Kensington lock / zoom: solid

Keystone correction: vertical (± 15 ° ) automatic

Output: 2 x 3 Watt

Weight: 1.4 kg

Width: 230 mm

Height: 44 mm

Depth: 170 mm

Power Consumption in operation: 130 watts

Features: built-in speaker

Other - mercury-free design

Color Depth: 16.7 million colors

Color Space: 110% of NTSC

Technology: 0.45 "DMD DLP chip

External power supply


Operation: Power (Main / standby), mute, ceiling mount, Rückprofähig, auto, Source detection, auto positioning / tracking, Freeze, EcoMode, volume

GrafischesOSD: Power (Main / standby)

Remote Control: Volume

OSD languages: UK, DE, FR, ES, PT, SE, RU, JP, IT, CN, KR


Connections

Video PCEingang: 15PinD-Sub, HDMI, USBTypA

Video PCAusgang -

C-video input (RCA): yes (überVGA)

Component Input: yes (überVGA)

Audio Input: yes

Audio output: yes

Speaker output power: 2x3W

Power cable / Kensington: yes / yes


Accessories: VGA cable, manual, remote control, external power adapter, AV cable, RGB aufKomponenteKabel, polishing cloth, soft carry case


Service Warranty Device: 36month
 

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also throw ratio is improved a bit

Hey,thanks for the information. By “real improvement” I was referring to perceivable improvement.

These are the questions that I asked myself when I decided to buy four units knowing that there were “improved” models pending:

1. Although the maximum output is 700 lumens, what is the output in the quietest mode? How much noise is there when 700 lumens is output? What is the quality of the picture at 700 lumens? My bet is that the quietest output (economy mode) will be almost the same as my projectors.

2. Is there a perceivable difference between a contrast of 10000:1 and a contrast of 1000:1 in a room with white walls? (I am in the process of building DIY screens.)

3. How much improvement will I notice in the 2x3watt onboard speakers? Will there be an optical output or HDMI pass thru? If there is an ATSC tuner, will it have audio return channel?

4. Will the new model have zoom or lens shift? If not then the image size will be determined by distance. And more importantly, it will be very difficult to place the projector perpendicular to the screen so both the focus and geometry of the projected image will be effected.

5. Can I get a piece of mind warranty? I got an extra year with my Amex so my warranty is 36 months (Fry’s did not offer a warranty).

6. Can I do 3D? I initially bought two units (for about what I expect one of the new units to cost) and easily assembled a 3D playback setup that uses the same 3D glasses I got in the theater. So I have a spare 2D unit should I have any problems and very cheap 3D glasses.

7. What will I do with the projectors if the newer model is a “must” buy? I would use the projectors as TVs in my bedrooms. I am also considering a special (low dust) cage for my garage so that I can have a workshop computer with a big screen for viewing tutorials.

8. Can I watch my 1080 signals? The signals scale much better than my Epson HC720 so using the HW300T as an extension computer monitor works.


I don’t know what throw distance is.


I am interested the newer units but my guess is that the newer units will offer “slight” improvement to the HW300T especially considering that there are no ATSC versions offered yet.


If the newer units offer over 300 lumens in the “Economy” mode and a watch-able 3D image without the fan whirring like a hair blower (because it must be run in the highest lumen output) then I will seriously consider buying one.
 

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also throw ratio is improved a bit
That throw still kinda sucks, but at least its going in the right direction.
 

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That throw still kinda sucks, but at least its going in the right direction.

Can someone elaborate on the throw? What is desirable and what is the issue with this new projector in terms of throw? I am new to projectors and would like to mount one out of the way on my basement ceiling. Ceiling height is around 7 feet high from the floor. Thanks for any info.
 

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Can someone elaborate on the throw? What is desirable and what is the issue with this new projector in terms of throw? I am new to projectors and would like to mount one out of the way on my basement ceiling. Ceiling height is around 7 feet high from the floor. Thanks for any info.
Sorry about the confusion, It all depends on your setup really. I have a rear projection setup, so ultra short throw is preferred for me. Those using front projection may have a small room, but want a really big image, a shorter throw will allow them to do that, or maybe they want a very large image from their coffee table, going to need a short throw for that as well.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm

You can play around with the distance and screen sizes on that website, it will help you get a good understanding of throw ratio.
 

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I might bite if I could confirm LG USA would honor the warranty and it supported hdmi 1.4a... too rich for me to take a risk on either otherwise. LG USA chat support has stated they believe it is not a US model and will thus not honor the warranty... hopefully that is simply because it is not in their system yet?
 

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I have bought LG PA70G at cyberport.de before 2 days. They should stock it 28.06. 2012 they say. It will be my first projector ever. Are you interested in review?
 

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yes. when you get it in post a video the day you get it.

my my aren't we demanding, can the poor guy enjoy is projector at least a day before posting a video?
 

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Sorry about the confusion, It all depends on your setup really. I have a rear projection setup, so ultra short throw is preferred for me. Those using front projection may have a small room, but want a really big image, a shorter throw will allow them to do that, or maybe they want a very large image from their coffee table, going to need a short throw for that as well.
http://www.projectorcentral.com/projection-calculator-pro.cfm

You can play around with the distance and screen sizes on that website, it will help you get a good understanding of throw ratio.

I did some calculations. The LG PA70G throw ratio mentioned in the specs provided further above is 1.40 to 1. The max diagonal screen size is 100 inches. 100 inches converts to a max screen width of 87 inches. 87 inches = 7.25 foot screen width. Finally, based on the 1.4:1 throw ratio, to achieve the max 7.25 foot screen width, the projector would need to be placed 10.15 foot from the screen wall. (Math is not exactly my strength, so anyone let me know if I am missing something.)


Since my basement is approx 12 feet from front to back wall, seems like this LG projector with its 1.4:1 throw ratio should work fine? I assume other than possible noise, having the projector ceiling mounted near the rear wall would be ideal, to get it out of the way?
 

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Honzik1,


I was wondering if you received your LG PA70G projector yet and if so could you give your thoughts on it.


Thanks !

 

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Honzik1,

I was wondering if you received your LG PA70G projector yet and if so could you give your thoughts on it.

Thanks !
Hi,

cyberport hasnt stock it yet. I hope it will be in few days. As soon as I recieve it, I will make here a fast review/preview!
 

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Just saw PA70G in stock for $799 @ my local Frys.

Which Fry's? Didn't see any at Sunnyvale yesterday.
 
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