I haven't read anywhere about this situation in the forums yet. How is everyone dealing with the sync issue of picture and sound with those of us with TV's that take a bit of time to process the video and hence introduce a delay, making the sound appear ahead slightly. When I first got my Sony SXRD set about 4 months ago, it was the first thing I noticed when playing DVD's on my Denon 1920 (using HDMI for the picture). I ended up buying a digital delay unit that allows me to delay the bitstream and all was well. But I wondered what would happen when I bought my HD-DVD player and used the analog outs in order to play the DD+ and True HD audio. I've had my player about three weeks now and do see a slight sync discrepancy. In almost all cases in my 21 title collection I can watch the DD+ through analog and not be too bothered with the sync (one exception being Bourne Supremacy), but for some reason the True HD tracks look more out than the DD+ and in one case Phantom of the Opera I can't stand to watch the True HD because the sync is too far off. The other three THD titles I have are also off, more than the DD+ but I can probably bear with it for the sake of the better sound. My question is - when I eventually upgrade to a processor with HDMI connections, do they allow for delay of the PCM tracks or for the bitstream signal (through HDMI) for those of us with video delay to compensate for it? I would think people with plasma sets would most notably be seeing this issue, or am I just overly sensitive to lip sync issues?
Lip Sync issues with DD+ & True HD
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What player do you have? It sounds like it could be the HD-A1 or the HD-XA1.
Check out by lip sync issue thread .
Note here the audio lags. My thread is mainly about the Xbox 360 HD DVD, but I've also noticed it on the Toshiba HD-A1 as well. (I only had the HD-A1 for a few days so I didn't test many titles though.)
People don't seem to be reporting it with the Toshiba HD-A2 though.
Check out by lip sync issue thread .
Note here the audio lags. My thread is mainly about the Xbox 360 HD DVD, but I've also noticed it on the Toshiba HD-A1 as well. (I only had the HD-A1 for a few days so I didn't test many titles though.)
People don't seem to be reporting it with the Toshiba HD-A2 though.
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I have both the A1 and the A2.
The A1 produces a very noticible delay converting DD+ and TrueHD to DTS for digital output. Drives me nuts since the audio lags and I can't do anything about it.
The A2 is much better. Not perfect but close enough that I can stomach it.
The A1 produces a very noticible delay converting DD+ and TrueHD to DTS for digital output. Drives me nuts since the audio lags and I can't do anything about it.
The A2 is much better. Not perfect but close enough that I can stomach it.
I checked out that thread just now. It's interesting that everyone is referring to the "lag" in audio. I'm seeing it earlier than the picture. in fact, when I use the coaxial output to send recoded DTS to my receiver, through the digital delay box I mentioned, I add about a 92ms delay and it corrects the problem. unfortunately there's no way to do it with the analog outs. I'm hoping the new HDMI receivers and processors will take into consideration that we may need a way to delay the audio with certain TV displays, through the HDMI connection.
I checked out that thread just now. It's interesting that everyone is referring to the "lag" in audio. I'm seeing it earlier than the picture. in fact, when I use the coaxial output to send recoded DTS to my receiver, through the digital delay box I mentioned, I add about a 92ms delay and it corrects the problem. unfortunately there's no way to do it with the analog outs. I'm hoping the new HDMI receivers and processors will take into consideration that we may need a way to delay the audio with certain TV displays, through the HDMI connection.
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Wow. Your TV must be really slow.
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I have my XA2 routed through my 3806. I noticed a video/audio lag with Mutiny on the Bounty, video and audio out of sync.. I discoverd that my Denon had a interesting feature through its set up menu. Video setup:audio delay. I set it for 200/ms (left
I have my XA2 routed through my 3806. I noticed a video/audio lag with Mutiny on the Bounty, video and audio out of sync.. I discoverd that my Denon had a interesting feature through its set up menu. Video setup:audio delay. I set it for 200/ms (left
Routing a signal through the processor before sending it to the monitor may add a little delay to the video, I don't know...I'm connected directly to the monitor for video. The delay usually comes from the processing time of the DVD player (upconverting perhaps) or the monitor. Mine has a native display of 1080p, so it has to convert 480p to 1080p. I'm glad to hear that you can delay through the HDMI connection. When I eventually upgrade my processor, I'm going to need to do that. 200 ms seems pretty high though. I was using 92ms. Then I created a DVD with some visual cues on it and played it to really zero in on the delay setting. On my Denon 1920 DVD player, I ended up with 104ms to delay the audio throught the Coaxial, with the picture connected through HDMI directly to my SXRD.
There is a lip sync issue (audio is ahead of video) with the XA2 using the analog outputs. I checked with Robert (Value Electronics) about this and he indicated Toshiba is aware of it and it should be resolved in one of the upcoming firmware updates. The XA1 did not have this problem.
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My XA1 didn't, lucky me.
My XA1 didn't, lucky me.
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Ironic because audio is delayed when using digital outputs (at least one the XA1, A1 & A2) although I noticed it's a lot less on the A2.
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