I thought I'd compile a massive list of receivers and pre/pros which accept digital DSD input and decode it to analog with no conversion to PCM or processing in between - for anyone interested in true "pure DSD" playback (whether that's the best solution or not).
It took me ages and what I discovered was that you can't TRULY know what's the case with a receiver/preamp unless you know the very path and design of the components and circuitry inside it - what chips are connected and how, the very pins that are used on those chips, the controllers, how the DAC operates and if it is doing so as hoped (pure DSD)!
Anyway, in a very post-modern way I've simply researched all I can and gathered everything (the info - or lack of info - from the horses' mouths, reported claims, evidence, proof etc) in the one place so that YOU can ultimately make your own conclusion. I have sorted the receiver models into two groups, ones that (supposedly
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) DO have a pure DSD to analog path, and random ones that supposedly, or definitely don't. If you have any info to correct or add to what I have below please chime in with it!
Also good about this list is the usually obscure info on what DACs receivers use so it's a useful resource just for that too.
Criteria for pure DSD decoding
So the criteria I've established for a receiver to be confirmed (or at least to an extent believed) to have a 100% pure analog path, it has to have:
1. A digital DSD input (HDMI, i.LINK or DENON Link)
2. Some sort of pure DSD playback mode on the receiver whereby it (supposedly) forgoes any processing or conversion to PCM
3. A DSD-Capable DAC (that doesn't convert to a PCM signal before the analog output)
4. Whatever other info that helps us know its DSD status.
And at that point, YOU decide what your conclusion is. Some items have conflicting claims from different people and that's all the info we have.
And for the second big list of receivers (ones that don't have pure DSD decoding), it onlt needs one of the first three criteria above in order to be 100% confirmed as a NON pure a DSD receiver.
Other notes and useful links/quotes/claims/info
- PCM1792 DAC is a technically superior DSD DAC to the 1796! 1791 is worse than both...
- PCM1792 and DSD1792 ARE different but they both have the same identical DSD to analog design and capability, so if they're ever mixed up it doesn't matter if you are considering DSD to analog capability.
- BAH WHAT ABOUT DSD1791 AND PCM1791? LOL....:so much confusion:
- Some of the receiver model equivalents like Onkyo/Integra are not 100% identical with internal components but are considered equivalents and are identical in terms of DAC, and DSD processing.
- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=982166
- The DSD1700/DSD1700E is a DSD-capable DAC.
- "All Burr-Brown decoders (I think that one of these is used by Onkyo) that are currently on the TI website do not submit the DSD stream via PCM but all streams are put through some form of "Enhanced Multilevel Delta-Sigma Modulator" before a final D/A step. Whether this is good, bad or a necessary step that all DSD converters would have I am not technically aware enough to comment"....hmm.....
- A good technique to dig around for info on DACs in receivers is to look up google images of receiver models...it can lead to webpages where people with screwdrivers have opened up their receivers to take a look at it...
List of Supposed Pure DSD receivers
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MODEL:
Denon AVC-A11XV
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM signals with a sampling frequency of 88.2kHz.
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/..._AVC-A11XV.PDF
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVC-A1HDA (AVC-A1HD)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download..._AVC-A1HDA.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVP-A1HDA (AVP-A1HD)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download..._AVP-A1HDA.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVP-A1HDCI (AVP-A1HDCIA)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVP-A1HDCI-OM-E_101A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2808CI (AVR-2808) (AVC-2808)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
YES:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download...d_AVR-2808.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2809CI (AVR-2809)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-2809CI-OM-E_102A.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-3808CI (AVR-3808) (AVC-3808)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-3808CI-OM-E_404A.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4308CI (AVR-4308)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4308CI-OM-E_305A.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4310CI (AVR-4310) (AVC-4310)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4310CI-OM-E_109A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4810CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4810CI-OM-E_007B.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-5308CI (AVR-5308CIA)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-5308CI-OM-E_207A.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-5805CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1792 (DSD1792)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-5805CI-OM.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Marantz SR6001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR6001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR7001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7001_SR8001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR7002
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7002_SR8002_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR8001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7001_SR8001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR8002
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7002_SR8002_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz AV8003
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://www.marantz.com/pdfs/e_av8003_man.pdf )
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/surro...3.html?start=5
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR9600
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4397
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR9600_Final_Eng.pdf )
The official info sheet mentions that DSD to PCM conversion It is bypassed in the DSD DIRECT mode. ( http://us.marantz.com/SR9600_info_sheet.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The info stated by the official info sheet and user manual seems to be clear that it is pure DSD to analog processing.
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC885 (PR-SC885P) (Integra DTC-9.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown ___ (whatever it is, it IS DSD capable...)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...SC885_En_A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC886 (Integra DTR-9.9) (Integra DHC-9.9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM. ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1186948/M...86_English.pdf )
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC5507 (PR-SC887) (Integra DTS-80.1) (Integra DHC-80.1)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1795
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1459188/M...07_English.pdf ) ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...0.1_En_web.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49621#49629
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR1007
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...En_webver2.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR3007 (Integra DTR-70.1)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...En_webver2.pdf ) ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...0.1_En_web.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR5007
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1795
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...En_webver2.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR706 (TX-SA706)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR805 (Integra DTR-7.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...5_875_B_En.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR806 (TX-SA806) (TX-SA806X)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
I think SA806x has Burr-Brown 1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR875
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...5_875_B_En.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR876 (Integra DTR-8.9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR905 (TX-NA905) (Integra DTR-8.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1024083/M...0TXNR905_1.pdf )
http://forum.blu-ray.com/1271751-post18.html
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR906 (TX-SR906) (TX-NA906) (TX-NA906X)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-09TX (SC-LX90)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Wolfson WM8741
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...ctions1213.pdf )
Note: the WM8741 DAC itself has an option to have DSD to PCM path!!!! So how do we know what the pioneer engineers have it set to? We need to email/ring them and ask...
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX2AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX4AH (VSA-LX70) (VSX-LX70)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I think this does have a pure direct mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX5i (VSA-AX5i-N)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX10i-S (VSA-AX10i)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX10Ai (VSA-AX10Ai-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-55TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-74TXVi (VSX-AX4AVi-S) (VSX-AX4AVi) (VSA-AX4AVi)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
???? Burr-Brown __????__
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...29#post8051829
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-82TXS-S (VSX-82TXS) (VSX-AX2AS-S) (VSX-AX2AS) (VSX-AX2ASi-S?) (VSX-AX2ASi?)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...VSX-AX2AS-S-_R )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-84TXSi-S (VSX-84TXSi) (VSX-AX4ASi-G) (VSX-AX4ASi-S) (VSX-AX4ASi) (VSA-AX4ASi)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...84#post8051984
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...SX-AX4ASI-S-_U )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-92THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> Straight decoding
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...ctions0807.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-94THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...ctions0807.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX5Ai-S (VSX-AX5Ai-G) (VSX-AX5Ai)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states With SACD discs, you will also be able to bypass the signal processing of this receiver to hear 1-bit Direct Stream Digital (DSD) audio directly ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...VSX-AX5AI-S-_S )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX5i (VSX-AX5i-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear on how DSD is processed in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX10Ai (VSX-AX10Ai-G) (VSX-AX10Ai-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear on how DSD is processed in PURE DIRECT mode. ( http://dl.owneriq.net/2/2cffa0d9-308...c145370023.pdf ) ( http://www.pioneerchina.com/files/EN...AI%28EN%29.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-LX50
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://dl.owneriq.net/2/2cffa0d9-308...c145370023.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V761 (DSP-AX761)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
??? Apparently a Burr-Brown model that's DSD compatible
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V861 (DSP-AX861)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
??? Burr-Brown __????__
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V863 (DSP-AX863)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30842/44772
I had tentatively decided on the Yamaha RX-V863, which, from what I understand, also decodes DSD direct.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1700 (DSP-AX1700)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When you play back DSD sources with any sound field program, this unit converts the DSD signals to PCM signals which COULD infer that when in PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD stays as such until conversion to analog.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No definite conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1800 (DSP-AX1800)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1900 (DSP-AX1900)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V2700 (DSP-AX2700)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When you play back DSD sources with any sound field program, this unit converts the DSD signals to PCM signals which COULD infer that when in PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD stays as such until conversion to analog.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
FOR: "I just looked at the manual for the 2700 and you will be fine. You will see that it will handle DSD on page 21. Good luck....you won't be disappointed in the sound." http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...DETYP=RELATION
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No definite conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V3800 (DSP-AX3800)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/25179/26138
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/32640#32500
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V3900 (DSP-AX3900)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z7 (DSP-Z7)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z9 (DSP-Z9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1792 (DSD1792)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that PURE DIRECT...bypasses all of this unit's decoders and circuitry to provide uncompromised audio fidelity. But that is not clear enough about DSD to analog conversion.
I don't believe that is indicative enough enough of whether the DSD signal is being fed directly to the DSD DAC or not.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z11 (DSP-Z11)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear at all about whether Pure Direct mode means pure DSD to analog processing.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/32640#32500
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No conclusion even close to 100% can be made.
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Random List of noted Supposed NON pure DSD receivers
MODEL:
Arcam AV888
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Wolfson WM8741
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2308CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
No mention of DSD in the user manual.
http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-2308CI-OM-E_109.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-3310CI (AVR-3310) (AVC-3310)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 254
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 255
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 354
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 355
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Integra DTR-40.1
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Integra DTR-50.1
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Marantz SR5003
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Marantz SR6004
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR507 (TX-SA507)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
I don't think so
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
I think it's a non dsd dac....
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I don't think there's pure dsd mode, or dsd dac...
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
Pretty sure it's non pure.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR606
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO:
Cirrus Logic
CS42518 (this has been confirmed to NOT have the CS42528, that claim is wrong.)
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR705 (Integra DTR-6.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR707
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
There's some false claims out there. But its DAC is non DSD and that's that.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR807
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-05TX (SC-LX71)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-07TX (SC-LX81)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-25
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-27
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-LX72
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-LX82
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-919AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-1017AV
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
AKM AK4628
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-1019AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX1AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
AKM AK4359
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-LX52
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-01TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-03TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-21TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-23TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-49TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...4181175930.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
It doesn't seem to have pure DSD processing.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-59TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...s%20Manual.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
It doesn't seem to have pure DSD processing.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-72TXV (VSX-72TXV-S) (VSX-AX2AV-S) (VSX-AX2AV)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown ____?
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...29#post8051829
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-91THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD inputs
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX3-S
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Manual: http://docs.pioneer.eu/Manuals/VSX_A...al/GetPDF.ashx
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-LX51
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sharp SM-SX100
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA2400
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
Seems to not be pure DSD.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA4400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver. ( http://www.docs.sony.com/release/STRDA4400ES.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA5300ES (TA-DA5300ES)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver.( http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/So...TRDA5300ES.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA5400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I DON'T KNOW: it has a special Sony custom designed DSD DAC which is supposed to "represent the latest advancement in DSD D/A conversion. Some kind of unprecedented "no negative feedback I/V Converter" technology. Gone completely is any slight softness or distortion associate with converting DSD to analog. The output is very tight and crisp where as the XA9000ES and XA777ES are noticeably softer sounding by comparison." What actually happens, is that it converts the incoming dsd signal (via hdmi) to pcm format and processes the sound a little before converting to analog.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
I'm not sure what to conclude about this receiver. Make your own conclusion about whetter this is good DSD to analog conversion or not. But it's not pure, that's for sure.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA6400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver. ( http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3875814211.pdf )
Claim FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post15619571
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA7100ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA3400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA5500ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA9000ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Sony CXD9725
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
This receiver has i.LINK DSD input but the DAC isn't pure DSD to analog: http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic....zz0dXRlVx6i%22
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V465
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V565
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V765
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V1065
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha DSP-AX768
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha DSP-AX863
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V661 (DSP-AX661)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO (apparently)
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread.php?...ly=30901#30901
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
I think it isn't. Only from these claims I've found though.
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It took me ages and what I discovered was that you can't TRULY know what's the case with a receiver/preamp unless you know the very path and design of the components and circuitry inside it - what chips are connected and how, the very pins that are used on those chips, the controllers, how the DAC operates and if it is doing so as hoped (pure DSD)!
Anyway, in a very post-modern way I've simply researched all I can and gathered everything (the info - or lack of info - from the horses' mouths, reported claims, evidence, proof etc) in the one place so that YOU can ultimately make your own conclusion. I have sorted the receiver models into two groups, ones that (supposedly
Also good about this list is the usually obscure info on what DACs receivers use so it's a useful resource just for that too.
Criteria for pure DSD decoding
So the criteria I've established for a receiver to be confirmed (or at least to an extent believed) to have a 100% pure analog path, it has to have:
1. A digital DSD input (HDMI, i.LINK or DENON Link)
2. Some sort of pure DSD playback mode on the receiver whereby it (supposedly) forgoes any processing or conversion to PCM
3. A DSD-Capable DAC (that doesn't convert to a PCM signal before the analog output)
4. Whatever other info that helps us know its DSD status.
And at that point, YOU decide what your conclusion is. Some items have conflicting claims from different people and that's all the info we have.
And for the second big list of receivers (ones that don't have pure DSD decoding), it onlt needs one of the first three criteria above in order to be 100% confirmed as a NON pure a DSD receiver.
Other notes and useful links/quotes/claims/info
- PCM1792 DAC is a technically superior DSD DAC to the 1796! 1791 is worse than both...
- PCM1792 and DSD1792 ARE different but they both have the same identical DSD to analog design and capability, so if they're ever mixed up it doesn't matter if you are considering DSD to analog capability.
- BAH WHAT ABOUT DSD1791 AND PCM1791? LOL....:so much confusion:
- Some of the receiver model equivalents like Onkyo/Integra are not 100% identical with internal components but are considered equivalents and are identical in terms of DAC, and DSD processing.
- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=982166
- The DSD1700/DSD1700E is a DSD-capable DAC.
- "All Burr-Brown decoders (I think that one of these is used by Onkyo) that are currently on the TI website do not submit the DSD stream via PCM but all streams are put through some form of "Enhanced Multilevel Delta-Sigma Modulator" before a final D/A step. Whether this is good, bad or a necessary step that all DSD converters would have I am not technically aware enough to comment"....hmm.....
- A good technique to dig around for info on DACs in receivers is to look up google images of receiver models...it can lead to webpages where people with screwdrivers have opened up their receivers to take a look at it...
List of Supposed Pure DSD receivers
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MODEL:
Denon AVC-A11XV
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM signals with a sampling frequency of 88.2kHz.
http://www.denon.co.uk/site/datadir/..._AVC-A11XV.PDF
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVC-A1HDA (AVC-A1HD)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download..._AVC-A1HDA.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVP-A1HDA (AVP-A1HD)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download..._AVP-A1HDA.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVP-A1HDCI (AVP-A1HDCIA)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVP-A1HDCI-OM-E_101A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2808CI (AVR-2808) (AVC-2808)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
YES:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.denon.co.uk/site/download...d_AVR-2808.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2809CI (AVR-2809)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-2809CI-OM-E_102A.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-3808CI (AVR-3808) (AVC-3808)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-3808CI-OM-E_404A.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4308CI (AVR-4308)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4308CI-OM-E_305A.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4310CI (AVR-4310) (AVC-4310)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first converted into PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4310CI-OM-E_109A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-4810CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-4810CI-OM-E_007B.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-5308CI (AVR-5308CIA)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-5308CI-OM-E_207A.pdf )
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-5805CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
DENON Link DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> DSD DIRECT / DSD MULTI DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1792 (DSD1792)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When playing DSD signals in the DIRECT or PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD signals are converted as such into analog signals. When playing in other surround modes, the DSD signals are first convertedinto PCM format, then into analog signals. ( http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-5805CI-OM.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Marantz SR6001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR6001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR7001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7001_SR8001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR7002
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7002_SR8002_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR8001
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7001_SR8001_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The manual seems pretty clear but there is no hard proof.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR8002
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR7002_SR8002_final_eng.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz AV8003
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / DSD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Unlike Models like SR6001, Sr7001 and SR8002, the user manual fails to list DSD direct conversion as a feature and ONLY lists DSD to PCM converter. ( http://www.marantz.com/pdfs/e_av8003_man.pdf )
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/surro...3.html?start=5
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The information in the user manual is unclear, if not pointing towards non pure DSD processing. No conclusion can be made.
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MODEL:
Marantz SR9600
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> PURE DIRECT / SA-CD
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4397
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual lists DSD direct conversion as a feature alongside DSD to PCM converter( http://us.marantz.com/DFU_SR9600_Final_Eng.pdf )
The official info sheet mentions that DSD to PCM conversion It is bypassed in the DSD DIRECT mode. ( http://us.marantz.com/SR9600_info_sheet.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
The info stated by the official info sheet and user manual seems to be clear that it is pure DSD to analog processing.
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC885 (PR-SC885P) (Integra DTC-9.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown ___ (whatever it is, it IS DSD capable...)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...SC885_En_A.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC886 (Integra DTR-9.9) (Integra DHC-9.9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM. ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1186948/M...86_English.pdf )
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo PR-SC5507 (PR-SC887) (Integra DTS-80.1) (Integra DHC-80.1)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1795
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1459188/M...07_English.pdf ) ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...0.1_En_web.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49621#49629
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR1007
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...En_webver2.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR3007 (Integra DTR-70.1)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...En_webver2.pdf ) ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...0.1_En_web.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR5007
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to On, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1795
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether. ( http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...En_webver2.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR706 (TX-SA706)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR805 (Integra DTR-7.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...5_875_B_En.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR806 (TX-SA806) (TX-SA806X)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Cirrus Logic CS4382A
I think SA806x has Burr-Brown 1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR875
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://filedepot.onkyousa.com/Files/...5_875_B_En.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR876 (Integra DTR-8.9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR905 (TX-NA905) (Integra DTR-8.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
Delay Enable set to No, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states "In listening modes other than DSD Direct and Pure Audio, DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM." ( http://www.eu.onkyo.com/dl/1024083/M...0TXNR905_1.pdf )
http://forum.blu-ray.com/1271751-post18.html
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
If one is to believe what the manual says, it's 100% pure DSD
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR906 (TX-SR906) (TX-NA906) (TX-NA906X)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DAC Direct set to Yes, DIRECT -> DSD Direct
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
AGAINST: the user manual states that DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM.
AGAINST: http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/49520/49625#49625
AGAINST: http://www.aperionaudio.com/communit...read.aspx#8507
FOR: "The latest Onkyo models 706 to 906 despite having misprinted inaccurate manuals do decode DSD direct to Analogue without PCM in Pure & Direct listening modes." ( http://sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/33649#33308 )
FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post16369728
FOR: I have a theory that the statement "DSD sources are converted and handled as PCM" is either a misprint or badly-written, due to inconsistencies with what the rest of the user manual says and infers. It might indeed do DSD direct to analog conversion in "DSD Direct" mode but nothing can be confirmed until someone contacts Onkyo and gets an answer from them.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-09TX (SC-LX90)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Wolfson WM8741
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...ctions1213.pdf )
Note: the WM8741 DAC itself has an option to have DSD to PCM path!!!! So how do we know what the pioneer engineers have it set to? We need to email/ring them and ask...
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX2AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX4AH (VSA-LX70) (VSX-LX70)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I think this does have a pure direct mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX5i (VSA-AX5i-N)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX10i-S (VSA-AX10i)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX10Ai (VSA-AX10Ai-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-55TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
User manual is not 100% clear about whether the DSD signal merely bypasses the DSP operations or whether it bypasses conversion to PCM altogether.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-74TXVi (VSX-AX4AVi-S) (VSX-AX4AVi) (VSA-AX4AVi)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
???? Burr-Brown __????__
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...29#post8051829
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-82TXS-S (VSX-82TXS) (VSX-AX2AS-S) (VSX-AX2AS) (VSX-AX2ASi-S?) (VSX-AX2ASi?)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...VSX-AX2AS-S-_R )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-84TXSi-S (VSX-84TXSi) (VSX-AX4ASi-G) (VSX-AX4ASi-S) (VSX-AX4ASi) (VSA-AX4ASi)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...84#post8051984
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...SX-AX4ASI-S-_U )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-92THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> Straight decoding
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...ctions0807.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-94THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...ctions0807.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX5Ai-S (VSX-AX5Ai-G) (VSX-AX5Ai)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states With SACD discs, you will also be able to bypass the signal processing of this receiver to hear 1-bit Direct Stream Digital (DSD) audio directly ( http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-in...VSX-AX5AI-S-_S )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX5i (VSX-AX5i-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
SACD DIRECT set to ON -> SACD DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear on how DSD is processed in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX10Ai (VSX-AX10Ai-G) (VSX-AX10Ai-S)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
????
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear on how DSD is processed in PURE DIRECT mode. ( http://dl.owneriq.net/2/2cffa0d9-308...c145370023.pdf ) ( http://www.pioneerchina.com/files/EN...AI%28EN%29.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-LX50
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual talks about a DSD->PCM light that lights up when the incoming signal is being converted to PCM (supposedly when in non pure (DSP) mode), which suggests that when it is off, pure passthrough to the DAC is taking place. ( http://dl.owneriq.net/2/2cffa0d9-308...c145370023.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V761 (DSP-AX761)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
??? Apparently a Burr-Brown model that's DSD compatible
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V861 (DSP-AX861)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
??? Burr-Brown __????__
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V863 (DSP-AX863)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
????
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30842/44772
I had tentatively decided on the Yamaha RX-V863, which, from what I understand, also decodes DSD direct.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1700 (DSP-AX1700)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When you play back DSD sources with any sound field program, this unit converts the DSD signals to PCM signals which COULD infer that when in PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD stays as such until conversion to analog.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No definite conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1800 (DSP-AX1800)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V1900 (DSP-AX1900)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V2700 (DSP-AX2700)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that When you play back DSD sources with any sound field program, this unit converts the DSD signals to PCM signals which COULD infer that when in PURE DIRECT mode, the DSD stays as such until conversion to analog.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post10452794
FOR: "I just looked at the manual for the 2700 and you will be fine. You will see that it will handle DSD on page 21. Good luck....you won't be disappointed in the sound." http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...DETYP=RELATION
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No definite conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V3800 (DSP-AX3800)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/25179/26138
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/32640#32500
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V3900 (DSP-AX3900)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Texas Instruments PCM1791A
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z7 (DSP-Z7)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown DSD1791
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not address DSD's processing in PURE DIRECT mode.
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z9 (DSP-Z9)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1792 (DSD1792)
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual states that PURE DIRECT...bypasses all of this unit's decoders and circuitry to provide uncompromised audio fidelity. But that is not clear enough about DSD to analog conversion.
I don't believe that is indicative enough enough of whether the DSD signal is being fed directly to the DSD DAC or not.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-Z11 (DSP-Z11)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
PURE DIRECT
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown PCM1796
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual is not clear at all about whether Pure Direct mode means pure DSD to analog processing.
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/30517/32640#32500
http://www.avforums.com/forums/8923150-post10.html
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No conclusion even close to 100% can be made.
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Random List of noted Supposed NON pure DSD receivers
MODEL:
Arcam AV888
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Wolfson WM8741
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-2308CI
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
No mention of DSD in the user manual.
http://www.usa.denon.com/AVR-2308CI-OM-E_109.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Denon AVR-3310CI (AVR-3310) (AVC-3310)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
YES:
Burr-Brown DSD1608
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 254
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 255
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 354
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Harman Kardon AVR 355
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Integra DTR-40.1
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Integra DTR-50.1
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Marantz SR5003
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Marantz SR6004
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR507 (TX-SA507)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
I don't think so
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
I think it's a non dsd dac....
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I don't think there's pure dsd mode, or dsd dac...
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
Pretty sure it's non pure.
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR606
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO:
Cirrus Logic
CS42518 (this has been confirmed to NOT have the CS42528, that claim is wrong.)
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR705 (Integra DTR-6.8)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Cirrus Logic CS42528
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-SR707
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
There's some false claims out there. But its DAC is non DSD and that's that.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Onkyo TX-NR807
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1690
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-05TX (SC-LX71)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-07TX (SC-LX81)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-25
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-27
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-LX72
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer SC-LX82
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Wolfson WM8740
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-919AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-1017AV
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
AKM AK4628
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-1019AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-AX1AH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
AKM AK4359
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSA-LX52
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-01TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-03TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-21TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-23TXH
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-49TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pi...4181175930.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
It doesn't seem to have pure DSD processing.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-59TXi
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/St...s%20Manual.pdf
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
It doesn't seem to have pure DSD processing.
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-72TXV (VSX-72TXV-S) (VSX-AX2AV-S) (VSX-AX2AV)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Burr-Brown ____?
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...29#post8051829
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-91THX
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD inputs
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-AX3-S
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
Manual: http://docs.pioneer.eu/Manuals/VSX_A...al/GetPDF.ashx
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Pioneer VSX-LX51
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
MAYBE:
Wolfson WM8728
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
About the DAC: there seems to be two versions or revisions of the WM8728 (one and two), one with DSD decoding and one with only PCM decoding. We're not sure which one is used in this receiver so we have no idea!
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sharp SM-SX100
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA2400
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
Seems to not be pure DSD.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA4400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver. ( http://www.docs.sony.com/release/STRDA4400ES.pdf )
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA5300ES (TA-DA5300ES)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver.( http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/So...TRDA5300ES.pdf )
http://www.sa-cd.net/faq
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA5400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
I DON'T KNOW: it has a special Sony custom designed DSD DAC which is supposed to "represent the latest advancement in DSD D/A conversion. Some kind of unprecedented "no negative feedback I/V Converter" technology. Gone completely is any slight softness or distortion associate with converting DSD to analog. The output is very tight and crisp where as the XA9000ES and XA777ES are noticeably softer sounding by comparison." What actually happens, is that it converts the incoming dsd signal (via hdmi) to pcm format and processes the sound a little before converting to analog.
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
I'm not sure what to conclude about this receiver. Make your own conclusion about whetter this is good DSD to analog conversion or not. But it's not pure, that's for sure.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA6400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
The user manual does not indicate anything about how DSD sources are handled in the receiver. ( http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3875814211.pdf )
Claim FOR: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post15619571
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony STR-DA7100ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
No clear conclusion.
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA3400ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA5500ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
NO
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Sony TA-DA9000ES
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
i.LINK/FireWire/IEEE 1394 DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Sony CXD9725
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
This receiver has i.LINK DSD input but the DAC isn't pure DSD to analog: http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic....zz0dXRlVx6i%22
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V465
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V565
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V765
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha AX-V1065
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha DSP-AX768
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha DSP-AX863
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
NO:
Burr-Brown PCM1680
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
100% sure it's non pure or N/A
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MODEL:
Yamaha RX-V661 (DSP-AX661)
DIGITAL DSD INPUT:
YES:
HDMI DSD input
[Supposed] Pure DSD Listening Mode:
NO (apparently)
DSD-CAPABLE DAC:
Notes/unrefuted claims/evidence/proof REGARDING THEIR CASE:
http://forums.audioholics.com/forums...4&postcount=19
http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread.php?...ly=30901#30901
CURRENT CONCLUSION:
I think it isn't. Only from these claims I've found though.
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