[Brap]

Had the opportunity to listen to the Omnistats this weekend with Sheffield reference CD's and watching Lord of the Rings. Very impressed. Thinking this will be the solution to my HT speaker size/ room dilemna. These were run through a receiver and I'll be using an Adcom 6000 through a Denon AVP8000, so it should sound better with cleaner signal. They had a Mirage sub, I'll have a Velo FSR12

Pondering the larger ones for fronts, micro's for rears and going with DefTech Mythos center channel over the Plasma.

Opinions please...........

 

[GreatBop]

Why would you pair the def tech CC with the OMNI sats for? thats like the ultimate 'dont do' right there.


I did a temporary Home Theater for my dad. He used to have a 4.0 surround setup during the glory days of the laser disc. A pair of JBLs and a pair of small wharfedale bookshelves. He recently bought a Mission CC and a paradigm pdr- 10 sub and a new a/v receiver.


The way the sound pans from left to right is downright annoying. Because they don't even sound similar at all.


But yeah, good decision with going with the Velodynes. and I would go with OMNIsats all around, even for your surrounds. i mean.. a hundred dollars difference is all that is..

 

[Brap]

Doing this in an effort for asthetics. The center channel Omnisat above the Plasma would not look good. The front omni's are ceiling mounted in the corners, and will be slightly angled to the listening area. The long thin DEFTech will probably go just above the Plasma. Unfortunately, cannot have an in-wall above the Plasma


Why the ultimate no-no?? Specs are comparable -- timbre matching an issue here?? Using the Denon AVP, the sub will allways be on so I'm thinking this should be ok?


Your comments are appreciated.

 

[maxshepard]

Brad, let me know how your setup will be. I'm in the process of putting away my AR-S50 and Wharfedale center for 3 Omnisat which I am leaning toward to. I'm just waiting for opinions on the Ascends which may change my mind. The AR-300 will stay as the power sub no matter which speakers I choose.

What was the price for the bigger Omnisat you got? I've got a quote of 235 each.

Max

 

[Sean Max]

Why not use the Omni CC or one of Mirage's other center channels (OM-C2 or OM-C3) with the Omnisats? The timbre will certainly be a lot closer than going with anything made by Def Tech. I'm using an OM-C2 with a pair of Omni 60's up front for the time being and that's as far apart in timbre as I'd like to get, and they're the same manufacturer. Of course, if you've heard the three of them together with material that pans across the front and you like the combo, who am I to tell you to do otherwise?

 

[GreatBop]

yeah. what he said. if you really want a better looking cc... get mirage's other CCs. and OMNIsat in the wall on top of the plasma acctaully looks nice. I've seen it used on top on a projector screen. (it's upside down for some weird reason.)



But yeah, it's your system. Who are we to stop you from getting def tech CCs

 

[JohnR_IN_LA]

Just say no to mixing brands up front Its difficult enough to match timber and sound with the same brand, much less adding another brand.


Or hey, heres an idea, go Def Tech all the way around.

Or get a nice Mirage center


Your mileage may vary...

 

[Brap]

Thanks for all your comments. I agree mixing brands is not a good idea -- never did it before ( K-horns for mains, KTLCR CC, Forte's rears in the big room downstairs), but this is more of a wife / room / appearance thing. I'll have to convince her (good luck Brad!!) Will look into DefTech today. Who uses their smaller line?


Thanks!

 

[Kevin C Brown]

I'd vote for using the Omni CC with the Omnisats. I've had Def Tech in the past, and I now have a Mirage setup. Both companies make great speakers, but I find that I prefer the omnipolar center channel of Mirage (the OM-C2 in this case) vs the direct radiator of Def Tech (CLR-2000), and as for mains, I'm still finding out that the Mirages sound a little bit more "natural" (no better way to explain it) than the Def Techs.

 

[F355]

wouldnt the omni series bookshelves look good enough? they're just a lil bigger. you'll get atleast SOME midbass.

 

[Brap]

As far as looks go -- these babies are the bomb!! I agree on the Mid bass, but I have a good adjustment on the Velo sub. Listening to these with a middle of the road sub and everything hooked up to a receiver, they still sounded pretty damn good for their size. I expect to have a them sound even better with a pure power amp and the Velodyne.

thanks!!

 

[ctsteve]

Mirage does make a dedicated center channel that goes with the OmniSats. But they also claim that an OmniSat does pretty well in the center.


I don't use one there, but only because I started with a center speaker I was already happy with.


Since you indicate that most conventional centers are not right for your plasma setup, consider another OmniSat.

 

[Carmantom]

Quote:

Originally posted by ctsteve Mirage does make a dedicated center channel that goes with the OmniSats. But they also claim that an OmniSat does pretty well in the center. I don't use one there, but only because I started with a center speaker I was already happy with. Since you indicate that most conventional centers are not right for your plasma setup, consider another OmniSat.

I was told the Omnisat would be good enough for center and I did not like it all all. I went the OM C2 and it was a much larger and truer representation of dialogue.


For what it's worth my project started out HT w/ The Micros up front and back and center. i took them back the next night and got the Omnisats. After a week the one Omnisat kept shutting down my Yamaha receiver, I thought I needed more power, so I got a NAD 762 ( which is great). Then that receiver also starting going into protect-mode and shutting down. Then we traced it down to a shorted speaker. Returned the speaker and all was well. Then the Nad 762 stopped working. (could have been related to the shorted speaker, who knows). They took it back and sent me a new one.


At least it was well until I rediscovered my long lost passion for music. Last night the Omni sat fronts went back and I spung for the OM-7s. What a big soundstage. They will work well for both my musical tastes as well as home theater. A lot of work but I'm getting there thanks to all the great ideas and input on this forum.


For my 2 cents the OMNISAT JUST DOESN"T GET IT FOR THE CC> TOM

 

[ctsteve]

I can't really recommend the OmniSat as a center, because I don't use one there. But I like the overall sound of them in the other positions. While not the ideal center, it could be ceiling mounted like the front L/R, and would certainly be matched in sound.


It was pointed out that asthetics were key. And I assume that matched to a plasma set, most of their work would be movies. If critical stereo listening was a key issue, we probably wouldn't be talking about satellite type speakers.


Do the micro versions have the same mounting mechanism? If so, perhaps try (as a test) the front soundstage with two micros for L/R and one of the OmniSats in the center. If this sounds good, buy another OmniSat for the center. If not, continue a search for something that fits the environment.

 

[rblnr]

Does anyone know an online or mail order dealer for Mirage. I'd like to get some omnisats w/a sub, but no dealer in my area.

 

[ctsteve]

Tweeter has them on-line with free shipping.

 

[90c4]

Quote:

Originally posted by GreatBop yeah. what he said. if you really want a better looking cc... get mirage's other CCs. and OMNIsat in the wall on top of the plasma acctaully looks nice. I've seen it used on top on a projector screen. (it's upside down for some weird reason.)

That's how my system is set up - if you mount them on the ceiling you must have them upside down or they won't sound right.

http://home.comcast.net/~gastwirt/ws...7/site1010.jpg

 

[MrDRC]

Nice setup 90c4!


I would not use the Omni sats for a center if you had the option of going with the CC. The CC center is very impressive and matches nicely with the Omni sats. I would be very reluctant to match Mirage Omni-polar speakers with direct firing speakers. I cant imagine the mess that would produce.


If space and decor are a concern, how could you be too critical of 90c4's aesthetics? Looks pretty nice to me and I would think it should meet the WAF.


Also, the Velo subs sound great with Mirage speakers. I love Mirage but their Sub line is a little weak. I just unloaded my LF150 for a Velo SPLII 1000. I was going to buy the Mirage 200 sub but the Velo just blew it away plus its nice and compact and was the same price.

 

[90c4]

I'm very happy with my Omnisat center, but I'm not too critical either. I have two toddlers and one of my main concerns was to have as little equipment as possible available for them to knock over and I couldn't go in wall due to ductwork that was already there. I think that if I move and do another system I'll either have Martin Logans or go with the Omnisats again. I have Martin Logans in my audio only room and they are great.

 

[usabrian]

The OM-C2 is one of the best center channel speakers out there, imho. Brian