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i am going to assume that all studios will be doing it this way as this is the best way to do it and nobody wants be known as "the studio that half-asses it while everyone else does it right".
Even Warner? Not so sure about that.
Ha ha...
What's better quality 4K (real not 2K) The Martian or Life of Pi?
 

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What's better quality 4K (real not 2K) The Martian or Life of Pi?
They are different types of CG. The Martian is going for mundane/realistic while Life of Pi went for the more fantastical/painting-like style. While it is hard to compare CG styles, just like it is hard to compare a sci-fi movie to a fantasy tale, I would say that Life of Pi offers better quality. (even though I didn't like the movie)
 

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What's better quality 4K (real not 2K) The Martian or Life of Pi?
They are different types of CG. The Martian is going for mundane/realistic while Life of Pi went for the more fantastical/painting-like style. While it is hard to compare CG styles, just like it is hard to compare a sci-fi movie to a fantasy tale, I would say that Life of Pi offers better quality. (even though I didn't like the movie)
Thank you.

Just watched PEANUTS tonight-wow, what a visually superb movie. Colours so vivid and bright-really pops!!
 

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I finally received the Samsung UHD player.

I watched Forrest Gump from the UHD video pack HDD and it absolutely destroys any of the 2K DI UHD disks that I tried in terms of clarity.

Also, throughout the movie you can clearly distinguish between untouched scenes and scenes with CGI or optical VFX.
 

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I finally received the Samsung UHD player.

I watched Forrest Gump from the UHD video pack HDD and it absolutely destroys any of the 2K DI UHD disks that I tried in terms of clarity.

Also, throughout the movie you can clearly distinguish between untouched scenes and scenes with CGI or optical VFX.
That rather spoils the illusion, surely?
 

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older VFX: easier to spot because of poor quality
newer VFX: 2K DI

So its a little of a no-win then isn't it?
2K DI is a pretty big letdown for me. On a non-HDR screen it is very difficult to tell the difference between the bundled Blu-Ray and the UHD one.

Older VFX: This is debatable. Forrest Gump particularly used some early CGI, but there are a lot of older movies where the effects are in-camera with models.
 

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Forrest Gump particularly used some early CGI
How does the floating feather look. That is the reason I bought a 4K tv and UHD player! ;)
 

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Because some of us only want to buy a UHD disc one time. Not that hard of a concept.
Won't happen; unless they want to keep an inferior version. ...A better version is already looming in a near future...twelve months or so.
 

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The movie industry in America is big business, and so is Blu-ray 2K , and now 4K.
Look @ the past with 2K; I must have repurchased the same BR titles that I really like (the films) what...three times?

That's all what I meant; nothing last forever and even more so today than yesterday.

* The first 4K Blu-ray movies have been released a month ago? /// How long till some of those titles get a remastering? ...April 2017? ...Like a true 4K remastering.
That's all the light there is...
 

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Won't happen; unless they want to keep an inferior version. ...A better version is already looming in a near future...twelve months or so.
Not sure why you chose that post of mine to quote, read the next couple and I cover your argument.
 

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I just replied to what I've read and understood clearly the content and the context.

Some people will only buy the true 4K Blu-rays, others will buy the ones that look better than the regular Blu-ray irregardless if it's true 4K.
4K won't be different than Blu-ray; they'll have better remastering eventually.
Me too I just want to buy 'The Martian 4K' only once. And I want to make sure of that, so I read all about it.
If an improved remaster shows up in the future, I'll have to make sure it's worth it. But that title appears to be a safe bet for @ least the next 2-4 years.

And you're right; I could have quoted any subsequent post after yours. But I've read the few ones before first.
Some people read the entire thread and never posted a single post, others read few pages here and there and replied to few posts.

4K Blu-ray won't fly with the general population anyway, and the videophile niche is one always looking for the best and latest version with top picture quality.
This is it right now. ...But just right now. That's all what I meant, no more no less. And some of those 4K Blu-rays, according to the pro experts, are lesser than the very best.
Not all studios are up to top picture quality standards like say Disney. ...In general. ...The masters they use, the crews they hire, the authoring plants, ...

I remember then Disney with non-anamorphic DVDs back in 1997-98.
I remember the poor picture quality of some of the first Blu-ray releases in 2006.
Now in 2016 some of the first UHD Blu-rays won't be the perfect deal either picture quality wise.

I even remember the first VHS movie titles with very poor picture quality and not in their proper screen aspect ratio; only later on that widescreen VHS movies were released.
My VHS tapes, many of them were Pan & Scan.

I only mentioned the past because today and tomorrow is going to be somehow a reflection of it.
Some VHS movies were never released on Blu-ray, not even on DVDs. Some good titles too.
And some bad transfers on Blu-ray are still bad and nothing was done to improve them.
And 'The Abyss' I'm still waiting on Blu.
And the 'Star Wars' saga keeps its VHS tapes in their originals. And the last one is not in 3D yet. ...UHD?

How many years till the UHD Blu-ray library hits 10,000 titles? ...Perhaps what they need is the porn movies to join in? ...But then it didn't catch up in 3D.

Yeah, it is a funny subject: Fake UHD versus real UHD on Blu. /// Or 2K versus 4K. ...Like some Blu-rays using the DVD for their mastering!
How long till 'Spartacus' on real UHD? Never, because it wasn't filmed in 4K.

Anyway, BR 4K is the top right now; fake or real. And Blu-ray 2K has just been superseded, in the year 2016.
 

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Yeah, it is a funny subject: Fake UHD versus real UHD on Blu. /// Or 2K versus 4K. ...Like some Blu-rays using the DVD for their mastering!
How long till 'Spartacus' on real UHD? Never, because it wasn't filmed in 4K.

???


I'm certain the restored negatives of Spartacus would make it a top candidate for UHD BD, just like Lawrence of Arabia - or masterpieces like Baraka and Samsara and a couple of (shot for) IMAX films.


Yet, I'd suspect that the program content providers find themselves between a rock and a hard place:


Once they release such films that will make UHD really shine they will have set a reference level for UHD BD which most contemporary and other productions will have a hard time to achieve.


But if they don't do it, interest in UHD may wither away.


As a wise guy once said: Do...or do not. There is no try.


Release real 4K content now and as soon as possible. :)
 

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How long till 'Spartacus' on real UHD? Never, because it wasn't filmed in 4K.
What an ignorant statement. Film has more resolution than 4K.
 

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They'll do a 4K "scanning" of the film. ...Maybe; and Baraka and Samsara @ 8K like they did on Blu.

Yes, that was an ignorant comment; that's why I'm here to learn, and the gracious reminder, thank you very much.
• Restoration: http://4k.com/news/spartacus-moive-getting-4k-restoration-thanks-to-universal-8344/

Vertigo, Spartacus, Lawrence of Arabia, Citizen Kane, Casablanca, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, ...all restored and scanned @ 4K and playing again @ the theater. ...A possibility, like they did with some older films before.
 

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I don't even know why some people have to argue whether their UHD copy is 4k material, or not. I popped in The Martian, and it didn't take me long to see that it was not in UHD. The difference is so small, it's most likely do to the minuscule increase from 1920x800 to 2048x1080 for anamorphic films. If it's a copy for copy of the 2k DCI source, the only enhancement you're going to get, if any, is if your TV is WCG and HDR capable. Either way, you won't get a higher rez chroma, since it's 4:2:0, same as regular blu-ray. To say I'm disappointed so far is an understatement!
UHD Blu-ray spec supports 444, 422 & 420 so you're wrong about the chroma and I think you may be the only person in the room that can't see the difference in the UHD Blu-ray of The Martian and the regular Blu-ray...optometrists are your friend.

I'll make the point again that even if IMDB lists the last known source format as 2K DI, that doesn't mean that that same exact transfer is being use for the UHD Blu-ray copy (here's looking at you @Nick666)..fact is..YOU DON'T KNOW what's going on behind the scenes actually, that's called guessing like I mentioned before. You do realize that the majority of IMDB is written by regular users right just like Wikipedia? Granted some industry people contribute, it's not always 100% accurate.

So for all 7 of the people here that support this movement, have fun waiting around for this list to grow. In the meantime I'll be enjoying my UHD Blu-rays in all their glory!

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