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As magnificent a picture this set can produce, it does not to this point make up for the motion blur IMO. There are times that this set takes my breath away, and others that make me very angry. I understand the "garbage in is garbage out" saying, but this goes beyond that.


For example, there are movies broadcast on FoxHD that have triple ball effect so bad that you can't even watch it. So I guess you can blame the quality of the content, but that argument only goes so far because that same content is still viewable through plasma technology. I know this because I have both technologies.


As far as I am concerned, LCD has not pushed through the motion issue barrier yet. They are right there, but have not yet crested that hill. I do not see how any true videophile finds the unnatural movement of LCD in any way acceptable.


As I have mentioned before, I can deal with the uniformity issues and slight flash lighting but the motion issues have not fallen into my subconscious as I hoped they would.


As hard as it will be to give up the customization and sometimes breathtaking PQ of the LN, I don't see that I will be happy with this in the long run.


I would be happy to hear from 800U owners that can tell me if my inclinations are leading me down the right path or if maybe I am overanalyzing.


FYI- I have heard people complain about how easy the bezel scratches and collects dust and they are 100% right. Dust is a huge problem but the scratch issue is for real. I pealed the plastic coating off my brand new set to find a scratch pre-installed for me with minor abrassive scuff marks in the same area near the touch controls.


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I was a big LCD guy. I bought the Panny 850U and I have never been happier! The 800U is an EXCELLENT TV rated just under the Kuro. I never thought I would buy a Plasma. I am so glad a did. Picture blew away my XBR5 (which is an excellent LCD). It's razor sharp, crisp. I am still in awe.
 

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As magnificent a picture this set can produce, it does not to this point make up for the motion blur IMO. There are times that this set takes my breath away, and others that make me very angry. I understand the "garbage in is garbage out" saying, but this goes beyond that.


For example, there are movies broadcast on FoxHD that have triple ball effect so bad that you can't even watch it. So I guess you can blame the quality of the content, but that argument only goes so far because that same content is still viewable through plasma technology. I know this because I have both technologies.


As far as I am concerned, LCD has not pushed through the motion issue barrier yet. They are right there, but have not yet crested that hill. I do not see how any true videophile finds the unnatural movement of LCD in any way acceptable.


As I have mentioned before, I can deal with the uniformity issues and slight flash lighting but the motion issues have not fallen into my subconscious as I hoped they would.


As hard as it will be to give up the customization and sometimes breathtaking PQ of the LN, I don't see that I will be happy with this in the long run.


I would be happy to hear from 800U owners that can tell me if my inclinations are leading me down the right path or if maybe I am overanalyzing.


FYI- I have heard people complain about how easy the bezel scratches and collects dust and they are 100% right. Dust is a huge problem but the scratch issue is for real. I pealed the plastic coating off my brand new set to find a scratch pre-installed for me with minor abrassive scuff marks in the same area near the touch controls.


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That's all fine and dandy, but what about plasma glare, HUGE power consumption, burn in, and toxic gas that needs to be recharged every yr or two?


Seriously though, those that favor LCD over plasma are lying to themselves
 

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That's all fine and dandy, but what about plasma glare, HUGE power consumption, burn in, and toxic gas that needs to be recharged every yr or two?


Seriously though, those that favor LCD over plasma are lying to themselves

Toxic gas?
Someone fill me in. My life is more valuable than my plasma.
 

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That's all fine and dandy, but what about plasma glare, HUGE power consumption, burn in, and toxic gas that needs to be recharged every yr or two?


Seriously though, those that favor LCD over plasma are lying to themselves


LOL. I was one of those people until I actually gave Plasmas a chance.
 

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That's all fine and dandy, but what about plasma glare, HUGE power consumption, burn in, and toxic gas that needs to be recharged every yr or two?


Seriously though, those that favor LCD over plasma are lying to themselves


Huh? I thought plasmas used neon and xenon, which are 'inert' gases but not poisonous in any way. Also, there isn't very much of it in the TV either.


Also thought you couldn't recharge most plasmas, and that the half-life for brightness on them was MUCH longer than 1-2 years of use these days?



I myself slightly prefer LCDs, but unless I'm sorely off-base, it seems like there's a number of plasma myths still out there.
 

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I found an acceptable compromise with my 650 LCD, which is AMP off for BD/DVD and AMP Low for 1080i cable, but I plan to buy plasma next time, because my eyes never seem to totally relax watching the LCD.


I do think the blur is largely content related - because if you watch Dark Knight, it's silky smooth - if the TV had inherent blur, that movie wouldn't be immune.


But I hate wondering if the next Blu-Ray I watch will be perfect like Dark Knight, or a blur fest like Sex and the City.
 

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It was a joke people

Oh, sorry. But y'know, some ppl actually still believe things like that.
 

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I found an acceptable compromise with my 650 LCD, which is AMP off for BD/DVD and AMP Low for 1080i cable, but I plan to buy plasma next time, because my eyes never seem to totally relax watching the LCD.


I do think the blur is largely content related - because if you watch Dark Knight, it's silky smooth - if the TV had inherent blur, that movie wouldn't be immune.


But I hate wondering if the next Blu-Ray I watch will be perfect like Dark Knight, or a blur fest like Sex and the City.

And why were you watching Sex and the City??
 

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Cause I'm not single?

Truer words were never spoken.



Honestly, it wasn't such an awful TV show... in very small doses.


But I think a movie-length dose would have many guys wondering exactly how high the roof of their house was, so they could jump off.


There's only so much "women b*tching about men, and talking relationships and purses" one can take.



Why the heck can't women enjoy beer, action movies, NFL football, and video games? Even a little?
 
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