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My daughter is moving near Hanover, PA. Direct TV web site says locals are not available. Does anyone know what they do for local channels? Are they eligible to get the national feeds of the networks?
 

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Hanover is not eligible for national feeds. Hanover, PA is in York County, PA and York County is in Harrisburg-Lancaster-Lebanon-York DMA. She will only be able to subscribe to them if DirecTV offers that market their locals. She'll need a lifeline cable package or an antenna to pick up network affiliates otherwise.


She wont be able to take Baltimore (less than 50 miles away) or Philly or Pittsburgh. She may get NY and LA with waivers.
 

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Yes, check for Waivers. Hanover is only close to York/Lancaster for TV. Of course, that means NO channel 8 NBC or 43 FOX, no matter what.


There is a chance that our area (DMA) is next in line for for Local into Local, being number 46. I believe there are only 3 areas remaining that are above us and that D* has stated that they will provide service in 5 more DMA's before the year is over.


This is all contingent on them not skipping us for more Name recognized areas.
 

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Anything new on this? My daughter moves in 3 weeks. She has a Direct TiVo so shw won't be able to record local channels from cable or antenna. I am suggesting she check out cable and forget Direct TV. She would need a standalone TiVo for that to work.


Any other ideas?


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What about waivers as mentioned above?
 

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I'm not sure who to ask for waivers. There does not seem to be any one city that has all the locals. Do you apply to the closest network station for each network? Has anyone in the area done this with any success?
 

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Your daughter will have to contact the NBC, NBC, CBS and FOX channels from the Harrisburg/Lancaster/Lebanon/York DMA and apply for waivers with each individule station there, if they say yes the waivers will be mailed to DirecTV and she'll recieve the locals probably from NYC. Some stations may grant the waivers some may not, if ABC, NBC and FOX say yes and CBS says no, she can get ABC, ABC, FOX but not CBS.
 

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Better yet, change your local address to Baltimore or Philly until Harrisburg locals comes on....
 

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Any other ideas?
....If she can provide a Canadian mailing address, ExpressVu & StarChoice offer two sets of US nets (plus over 20 Canadian locals) for all subs...


...Seattle & Boston via ExpressVu.

...Seattle or Spokane & Detroit or Buffalo(U pick) via StarChoice.:cool:
 

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If she used my address in VA could she get the locals for DC like I do? (Those are the locals she wants anyway.) Does the phone it is plugged into have to match the address? Do you just tell them the address where to send the bill? Any downsides to this? Is it legal?
 

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Instead of using your address (which is on file), have her select an address "close" that is not.


Usually the phone has to match the location of the receiver.


Doing a "move" like this means telling them a "service address" and a "billing address".


Technically - it isn't legal...
 

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I am new to the forum and from Central Pa. D* even has DMAs below 46, but it was where their market penetration was, so one or two markets below Harrisburg-York-Lancaster have locals.


Still using basis lifeline until locals come in this market. Could not get waiver even though I could not see NBC or Fox with OTA equipment. His daughter would probably get waiver for ABC and CBS and PBS in Hanover.


Won't hold my breath for locals. Maybe if merger actually happens but...

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Yes, check for Waivers. Hanover is only close to York/Lancaster for TV. Of course, that means NO channel 8 NBC or 43 FOX, no matter what.


There is a chance that our area (DMA) is next in line for for Local into Local, being number 46. I believe there are only 3 areas remaining that are above us and that D* has stated that they will provide service in 5 more DMA's before the year is over.


This is all contingent on them not skipping us for more Name recognized areas.
 

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Our area has been passed over again for Knoxville TN, which is the 63rd DMA. It has a third less population and is much more mountainous than our area - many can not even receive DBS.


They are going for Name recognition and Political influence areas.


There are only 2 (?) remaining before they run out and our DMA has never been mentioned officially anywhere.


It may take another year or more before they get to us. By that time ComCast will have all the Local (H)DTV channels up and running. It already begun in most major areas they serve.


DBS is way out of step in this regard.
 

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Yep, they are going for influence NOW. Before it was suppose to be top 50 markets (market determined by Neilsen rating) but they didn't say the top 50 ACCORDING to Neilsen. They went for where they had the highest penetration in a DMA. :mad:


Comcast's digital cable box is a piece of junk. No DD out and not even an S-video, let alone components.


What part you from?
 

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Pete,


Comcast now has a digital box with s-video. I tried it a few months ago and took it back. The picture looked horrible and I can't figure out why people around here love it so much. Anyway, I got a reply mail from a D*CSR and they said Harrisburg locals were not in their plans for August or the rest of the year. Plus, they were not using Neilsen DMAs, they were going where D* had the most subscribers. Sounds like the merger is our only hope.


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IF the merger goes through. I hated Comcast when I was in Philly and not to fond of them now either but, hey, when they are the only player in town (more specifically for cable modem)...


D* will eventually make believers on the Hill that the merger is the ONLY way they would be able to serve ALL markets but I still think that is a carrot being dangled to get the FCC to approve the merger.
 

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I'm not sure who to ask for waivers. There does not seem to be any one city that has all the locals. Do you apply to the closest network station for each network? Has anyone in the area done this with any success?
You could try calling D* and just ask them to turn on the distant nets. A couple friends of mine, who subscribe to Dish, called E* and were given the east coast feed of NBC just by asking for it. A co worker called D*, told them that he had waiver requests pending. They sold him the entire package. I guess a lot depends on what csr or "entertainment specialist" answers the phone when you call.


Over on dbstalk forum a gentlemen named Karl_f from Sandy, Utah posted the following just today:


"For reasons I'll never understand, I have now been given the distance networks east and west for Fox. I called Directv and asked about getting distance nets. The CSR told me that they (Directv) would submit a waiver request for me to my local stations, and if approved, I'd be given the distance nets from those networks for $1.17 for each network.


Over the past month, I have received cards from Directv saying that first ABC, CBS, and then NBC had denied my waiver request. Fox approved it, though. While that isn't the network I wanted distance nets from (I wanted CBS), I'm glad I made the call. Doesn't cost anything to ask, and you may be surprised by the result."
 

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If she used my address in VA could she get the locals for DC like I do? (Those are the locals she wants anyway.) Does the phone it is plugged into have to match the address? Do you just tell them the address where to send the bill? Any downsides to this? Is it legal?
With DC locals you get the MHz channels. This programming is NOT available in markets like Harrisburg Lancaster. DC is a good locals package. In Philly, Sixers and Flyers are blacked out and no RSN is included in Total Choice which devalues the package for people here.


Dish carries NBC, ABC, FOX, PBS from Harrisburg DMA now. The missing net is CBS; Supers cover WB, and UPN access.


DirecTV wont have another spotbeam until the later part of 2003. So its unlikely more markets will be added until then but its likely that Harrisburg will be a chosen market. And with Harrisburg, most likely still no WB access except on the FOX station that carries WB at night behind WPIX. DirecTV doesnt seem interested in offering supers.
 
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