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I need a good Medium Directional antenna with Pre-Amp to receive local HDTV programming. Any suggestions?


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Don't take this the wrong way, but...


Have you tried the $17.95 Radio Snack indoor double-bowtie? It's the closest thing to a digital rabbit ears you'll see. I get all of Los Angeles' OTA (ten stations) between two positions of this thing, and I've got a hill between Mt. Wilson and me.


As they used to say in the Olsen Electonics flyers, "Even if it doesn't work, it's a bargain!"
 

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Take a gander at this baby: http://www.spectravox.com/cm3010.html


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Hey Tooniverse,

that picture looks just like A.J. from the Sopranos...is that you or a pic of him? BTW Radio Shack is the way to go, right down the street and they have what you need.


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IS THAT A REMOTE CONTROL IN YOUR POCKET OR ARE YOU JUST HAPPY TO SEE HDTV?
 

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I've looked for the double bowtie at Radio Shack but can't find one. Not sure, but this model may not be sold any longer. Looking at the web site I don't see a $17.95 double bowtie. If anyone can provide a model number, picture, or link that would be great.


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Here's a link to RS: http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...%5Fid=15%2D623


Other indoor antennae to consider would be the Silver Sensor and Megawave. Here's one thread to investigate, but you can also search for one or the other of these for other posts as well. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/015288.html


I have both the Silver sensor and RS DBT and I have found that reception is a bit more reliable with the RS antenna, probably because it's directionally sensitive. The Silver sensor is probably a better choice if you are susceptible to multipath problems. Aesthetically I prefer the Silver sensor, although one of my kids likes the art deco appearance of the RS antenna.

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What is the best antenna? You will get many answers. I have tested a bunch of different antennas and the best by far is one made by APS (Antenna performance Specialties)
http://www.antennaperformance.com/new/


I use the U92 model exclusively now and it performs better then anything else I have used. It has a remarkable ability to deal with multipath, which is the biggest problem with DTV. It is also the best designed, but the worst built antenna. But I overlook the construction because it performs so well. I tested it in the attic and on the roof and very rarely ever have multipath problems. I live 20 miles from the main Boston transmitter site, but I can receive stations from NH (40 miles)with no problem. No pre-amp is used in my system. I do not recommend that you use a pre-amp until you test with the antenna. pre-amps can be bad news if not used correctly. Also if you are in an area were the stations are scattered I would recommend a rotor. Saves lots of aggravation.


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Jim,


Thanks for the link on the RS web site. Their site is not well designed. They have a group near the top for Antenna & Video. In that group choosing Indoor does not show the same set of antennas as where you found the double bowtie.


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P Joy,


Since I live about 15min North of you (Peabody) I'm very interested in your results with the U92. Did you have to use a rotor to pickup the NH stations? How much difference was there between attic and outside installs?


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Yes, I do use a rotor as the WENH-DT is is almost exactly 180 degrees away from the Boston (Needham) transmitter location. Signal on WENH with the DTC-100 is generally 70 to 76 without a pre-amp. last night for some reason they were in the 40 to 50 range but still mostly solid signal. WENH is 40 miles from my location in Tewksbury.


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Prjoy, what type of rotor do you use and how much did it cost (post link if possible)? Also, are all HDTV broadcasts in UHF?


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I got my rotor from Radio Shack - works well


Transmission band for DTV - that depends on your area. Check http://www.titantv.com and see what is available / what will be available in your area. There is no specific requirement for ATSC transmission to be on any band except on the frequency assigned to them by the FCC.


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You CAN put antennas on your owned and/or controlled property...

http://www.fcc.gov/csb/facts/otard.html
 

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I have the Radio Shack double bow tie antenna. Most of my stations come in strong, but two of them are weak. Could anyone recommend an amplifier I can install to strengthen the signal ?


Thanks for the help.


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I know people here tend to frown on RS quality, but I've found these two worked for me: http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D1113 http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...5Fid=15%2D1168

The Channel master amps are reputed to have a low noise figure. Since the 15-1113 has a 6dB noise I got the 15-1168, which Jim Christian at the yahoo sony hs10 egroups finds to have a lower noise rating, although I couldn't find anyplace that had the actual number. Both seemed to work for me, and were an improvement over the non amplified antenna.

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I bought the same Radio Shack double bow tie yesterday and got much better results than the amplified Radio Shack antenna I was using. My feeling is the design is just better for UHF. Adding an amplifier might be good idea since I still don't get all the stations.


I was wondering if you could piggyback 2 of these babies and get more stations? Figuring you could have them pointing to different towers.


The DTC-100 that I have has 2 antenna inputs so I can have 2, but I was curious about the piggybacking concept. Also wondering if there will be a multipath issue.


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HDcblguy,

The rotor is from Channel Master Model CM 9521 $89.95 through STARK ELECTRONIC.

http://www.starkelectronic.com/index.htm


Test it well if you buy one. I had problems with the first one and was glad that I tested it for a week before I put it up. The rotor would jam in either direction at the 0 and 360 degree stops and could only be freed by going into the rotor and manually rotating the motor. The second one I got worked fine until I aloud it to do auto sync and it jammed on me. I now disable auto sync and sync the rotor manually.


Other then that it is a good rotor with the remote and the programmable features.


P Joy


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