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We have our New 60" LED TV, DirecTV receiver, XBOX 360. PS3 plugged into a cheap APC surge protector and would like to get something a little better.


Which one of these would be the one to get:


http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-HT10DBS-10-Outlet-Suppressor/dp/B0002QPC28

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-MKIII-8-Outlet-Power-Center/dp/B000PCVF3E/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343099530&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=monster+markiii

http://www.amazon.com/Monster-HDP-1800-8-Outlet-Center/dp/B001CBPWT0/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1343099894&sr=1-1&keywords=monster+1800


I would like to keep it under $100. but a little extra is not out of the question.


What you guys think? Thanks.
 

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Whole house protector at your main breaker panel, then just use a standard Surge protector as secondary. I get mine at Lowe's and have not had any problems with any that I have gotten from there. I have one of the 4320 Joule protector strips on our plasma, BD and dvr. No need for something that is overkill. BTW, forget monster. Way too overpriced.
 

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We have something on our meter from the electric company that is suppose to be some kind of protection but I don't think it's the same as "Whole house protection".
 

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Hooterville, if it is between the meter and meter can, it is Whole structure surge protector. You should look at it to be sure, it should state on the device.
 

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It is between the meter and can. It does not look to be of great quality.

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I believe that we are paying like $5.00 a month extra for this thing.
 

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That would be a whole structure type surge. Best type to have, since it is installed at point of entrance. Can not get any better than those. The label on the top should give you model & manufacturer #, along with the bill should state "surge" protection or such.
 

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Thanks, gregzoll

My wife had that thing put on the meter so long ago that I almost for got we had it.

So, out of these 3 surge protectors I have listed is one better then the other?
 

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For secondary, just go to Lowe's and get the $40 eight outlet strip with alarm. You can also get them at Office Depot, Staples, Office Max, or on Amazon. It is pretty loud and will tell you if there is a condition, since most of them sit behind units and are not easy to get to.
 

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Originally Posted by gregzoll  /t/1421562/looking-for-a-better-surge-power-conditioner-for-our-new-led-tv#post_22247624


For secondary, just go to Lowe's and get the $40 eight outlet strip with alarm. You can also get them at Office Depot, Staples, Office Max, or on Amazon. It is pretty loud and will tell you if there is a condition, since most of them sit behind units and are not easy to get to.

Yea, that is what we already have. I was just going to order one of the $79. Monster's or the $79. Tripp Lites and can't make up my mind. The Monster says 6,125 Joules and the Tripp if like 3840 Joules. Does this really mean anything?
 

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OK, Thanks.

So, me running around and unplugging all our equipment from the walls during a lighting storm is unnecessary with the whole house protector?
 

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Nothing is going to stop a lightening strike from destroying any electric using appliance, unless it is physically disconnected from the outlet on the wall. Using a Surge power strip on top of a already installed whole structure surge protection, is a secondary layer.


I have a whole house surge protector, and on top of that, I use surge power strips as a secondary layer, where ever we have electronic equipment plugged in. If I need to, I just flip the switch. Some use something like the Leviton Surge protector outlet vs. a surge strip, if all they need to protect, is one or two items, not six or more.
 

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Nothing is going to stop a lightening strike from destroying any electric using appliance, unless it is physically disconnected from the outlet on the wall. Using a Surge power strip on top of a already installed whole structure surge protection, is a secondary layer.

I have a whole house surge protector, and on top of that, I use surge power strips as a secondary layer, where ever we have electronic equipment plugged in. If I need to, I just flip the switch. Some use something like the Leviton Surge protector outlet vs. a surge strip, if all they need to protect, is one or two items, not six or more.

This, I recently had a strike. I had plenty of surge protectors and the data center grade UPS and it got through that and killed everything. I know there are rods and all that stuff but what if the lightning hits the service pole? Your still screwed. The best protection as I learned the hard way is the unplug when there is a storm.
 

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jhjerry, if it hits the pole, yes nothing is going to survive downstream, but the ground wire should disperse the majority of the strike, in theory before it even goes out the lines to any structures.
 

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What is the best surge protector for new LED tv? Thanks.

The type of tv doesn't make a difference. It depends on your area and frequency of power outages or possibility of lightening strikes. For us, which have neither of those, I use an APC UPS for my HTS. It gives me protection and time to turn off my electronics should there be a prolonged or unexpected power outage. There are some very good surge protector strips out there but you need to educate yourself on what they can do and how. Keep in mind that a surge can also come in thru coax or HDMI depending on your setup, not just your power cord.
 

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does anyone have an idea if apartment complexes have anything to prevent surges?

You'd probably have to contact the apartment owners for that. Some do , some don't. My suggestion would be to assume they don't and take precautions for your equipment.
 

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does anyone have an idea if apartment complexes have anything to prevent surges?
Their grounding to the outlets should be up to code, the bonding to the ground rod and cold water pipe should also be up to code. As for the electrical panels, communication lines, that would be up to them if they wish to have, since those are not required. A Whole Panel surge protector is inexpensive, but good insurance for the building owner, same as them taking the time to also make sure that bedrooms have AFCI breakers, and bath, kitchen, garages, basements, outside outlets should have GFCI protection.


As for communication lines, L-Com makes very good Lightning protection for Data & Catv lines. Just having the static discharge for CATV is not enough, even though they may run a bonding wire from it to a strap on the side of the meter pan, who knows if the meter pan is bonded to a ground rod, unless an electrician has verified. Same with telephone bonding to ground. Who knows if the water pipe they attached to, is Copper all the way out to the meter at the street.


First thing I did when we moved into our place, was install a Whole panel protector from Intermatic, and properly bond the telephone line from ATT to the ground rod. Also brought all electrical up to code. The only thing that I refuse to do, is install AFCI breakers. 1) Due to cost, and 2) Still too young of a technology still at this point, and 3) Not required under the grandfathered code for this place. I probably will put them in once I get done with our Kitchen, since I am still in the midst of a Kitchen remodeling. Then I will also have all the rest of some electric runs that are over 70 years old upgraded, so that I can get the AFCI breakers to do what they are supposed to, not trip all the time, because I still have some old wiring runs in a couple of places.
 
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