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Looking for feedback on my HT set up selection

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Andrehdr

Discussion Starter · Jul 12, 2021 (Edited)

Newbie for Canada here so please be kind

I am finishing my basement and based on some suggestions from member here I am going to go with the following selection for my HT set up. Mainly for movies and bit of PS5 gaming.

The HT room is open to adjacent space and the size of the room 17 x 17 with 7.5 ceiling height

I will be buying the following and please educate me or provide me advice if I am doing something wrong or inefficient.

Projector: Epson 5050ub mounted on ceiling
Elite screen Aeon 3D Cinegrey 135”

Sound: 5.1.4 maybe I will add an extra sub in the future to 5.2.4
Denon x3700H
Two Klipsch RP-8000F tower
Center speaker Klipsch RP-504C
Two surround Klipsch RP-600M
Four ceiling speakers Klipsch CDT-5650 C II
Two SVS PB-1000 or one PB-2000

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Zorba922

· #2 · Jul 12, 2021

Andrehdr said:
Newbie for Canada here so please be kind

I am finishing my basement and based on some suggestions from member here I am going to go with the following selection for my HT set up. Mainly for movies and bit of PS5 gaming.

The HT room is open to adjacent space and the size of the room 17 x 17 with 7.5 ceiling height

I will be buying the following and please educate me or provide me advice if I am doing something wrong or inefficient.

Projector: Epson 5050ub mounted on ceiling
Elite screen Aeon 3D Cinegrey 135”

Sound: 5.1.4 maybe I will add an extra sub in the future to 5.2.4
Two Klipsch RP-8000F tower
Center speaker Klipsch RP-504C
Two surround Klipsch RP-600M
Four ceiling speakers Klipsch CDT-5650 C II
Two SVS PB-1000 or one PB-2000

If it were me, I'd go with one of the smaller Klipsch towers like the RP-5000F or 6000F, maybe with less expensive ceiling speakers from a different brand, in order to the savings into a second PB2000.

Lp85253

· #3 · Jul 12, 2021

I know nothing about the video gear, but that set up audio wise for ht should be fine..

Lp85253

· #4 · Jul 12, 2021

Zorba922 said:
If it were me, I'd go with one of the smaller Klipsch towers like the RP-5000F or 6000F, maybe with less expensive ceiling speakers from a different brand, in order to the savings into a second PB2000.

That's a reasonable idea too..

Garet Jax

· #5 · Jul 12, 2021

Andrehdr said:
Newbie for Canada here so please be kind

I am finishing my basement and based on some suggestions from member here I am going to go with the following selection for my HT set up. Mainly for movies and bit of PS5 gaming.

The HT room is open to adjacent space and the size of the room 17 x 17 with 7.5 ceiling height

I will be buying the following and please educate me or provide me advice if I am doing something wrong or inefficient.

Projector: Epson 5050ub mounted on ceiling
Elite screen Aeon 3D Cinegrey 135”

Sound: 5.1.4 maybe I will add an extra sub in the future to 5.2.4
Two Klipsch RP-8000F tower
Center speaker Klipsch RP-504C
Two surround Klipsch RP-600M
Four ceiling speakers Klipsch CDT-5650 C II
Two SVS PB-1000 or one PB-2000

IMO, you can get better speakers for the same or less money. I am not as familiar with what is available in Canada.

For surrounds I probably look at KEF Q150
For center, I look at Emotiva C2+ or C1+ to save a little money.
For LR channels, I look at JBL 570/580 or Emotiva T2+/T1+
For sub, I look at 1 HSU VTF-15H MK2 Subwoofer.

I do not run Atmos so cannot help you with ceiling speakers. In general, entry level Klipsch are not good value for the money so I imagine you can get a better set of ceiling speakers for the same or less.

Garet Jax

· #6 · Jul 12, 2021

Zorba922 said:
If it were me, I'd go with one of the smaller Klipsch towers like the RP-5000F or 6000F, maybe with less expensive ceiling speakers from a different brand, in order to the savings into a second PB2000.

OP - If you do decide to go for a second sub, then it is generally not plug and play. There is a whole sub-topic of sub placement and balancing. If you are not prepared to do that learning, then it is probably better to stick to 1 sub.

Zorba922

· #7 · Jul 12, 2021

Garet Jax said:
OP - If you do decide to go for a second sub, then it is generally not plug and play. There is a whole sub-topic of sub placement and balancing. If you are not prepared to do that learning, then it is probably better to stick to 1 sub.

I'd have to respectfully disagree with this...I have two subs in my living room (a 2.2 music system) and I simply picked the midpoints of two perpendicular/adjacent walls (multipurpose room so a full on "sub crawl" was not feasible). Played around with very simple adjustments of the gain and phase knobs. And voila, they make me very happy as is. I don't doubt that if I bothered learning how to use REW or Umik etc. I could fine tune and micro-calibrate them more precisely, but it's not like the current configuration is some dysfunctional nightmare or anything. The main goal was to provide solid fill-in bass at all positions in my open plan living room during music listening, which has been accomplished easily.

@Andrehdr
This is a pretty good summary of why some folks do two subs: Why Go Dual Subwoofers?

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Andrehdr

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jul 12, 2021

Zorba922 said:
If it were me, I'd go with one of the smaller Klipsch towers like the RP-5000F or 6000F, maybe with less expensive ceiling speakers from a different brand, in order to the savings into a second PB2000.

but if I stick with RP-8000F, will I notice the extra sound/quality overRP-5000F or 6000F?
wouldn’t you think two PB-1000 is more than enough for my room size?

BNestico

· #9 · Jul 12, 2021

I have essentially the same 5 channel set up as that. Works great for movies, very efficient easy to power speakers. I’d go with 2 PB1000’s over a single 2000. I actually think adding the second sub makes getting a good sound much easier. Besides, the Auddyssey XT 32 should make pretty quick work of calibrating them, at least we’ll enough to get him started before he dives down the rabbit hole.

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Andrehdr

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jul 12, 2021

Garet Jax said:
IMO, you can get better speakers for the same or less money. I am not as familiar with what is available in Canada.

For surrounds I probably look at KEF Q150
For center, I look at Emotiva C2+ or C1+ to save a little money.
For LR channels, I look at JBL 570/580 or Emotiva T2+/T1+
For sub, I look at 1 HSU VTF-15H MK2 Subwoofer.

I do not run Atmos so cannot help you with ceiling speakers. In general, entry level Klipsch are not good value for the money so I imagine you can get a better set of ceiling speakers for the same or less.

I prefer to stick with one brand to be honest. I don’t know anything about the other brands that you mentioned (maybe because I’m newbie?). So you are saying that Klipsch reference premier are not good speakers?

Andrehdr

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jul 12, 2021

BNestico said:
I have essentially the same 5 channel set up as that. Works great for movies, very efficient easy to power speakers. I’d go with 2 PB1000’s over a single 2000. I actually think adding the second sub makes getting a good sound much easier. Besides, the Auddyssey XT 32 should make pretty quick work of calibrating them, at least we’ll enough to get him started before he dives down the rabbit hole.

Which subs do you have and thinking of adding?

Garet Jax

· #12 · Jul 12, 2021 (Edited)

Andrehdr said:
I prefer to stick with one brand to be honest. I don’t know anything about the other brands that you mentioned (maybe because I’m newbie?). So you are saying that Klipsch reference premier are not good speakers?

No - they are fine speakers. I just believe there are better values to be had is all - so either better speakers at the same price or comparable speakers for less.

Joshua Chmiel

· #13 · Jul 12, 2021

Garet Jax said:
OP - If you do decide to go for a second sub, then it is generally not plug and play. There is a whole sub-topic of sub placement and balancing. If you are not prepared to do that learning, then it is probably better to stick to 1 sub.

Audyssey does a decent job with two subs and gets you 90% there. Yes using REW to place and dial them in is better. Using a MiniDSP will help eek out more performance. One still can't go wrong with two subs and Audyssey. Still far better than just one sub.

BNestico

· #14 · Jul 12, 2021

I have 2 SVS PB13 Ultras and and 2 older 12” SVS cylinders. When I originally only had my 2 cylinder subs adding the second one made an immediate difference in every way you could think of.

Garet Jax

· #15 · Jul 12, 2021

Zorba922 said:
I'd have to respectfully disagree with this...I have two subs in my living room (a 2.2 music system) and I simply picked the midpoints of two perpendicular/adjacent walls (multipurpose room so a full on "sub crawl" was not feasible). Played around with very simple adjustments of the gain and phase knobs. And voila, they make me very happy as is. I don't doubt that if I bothered learning how to use REW or Umik etc. I could fine tune and micro-calibrate them more precisely, but it's not like the current configuration is some dysfunctional nightmare or anything. The main goal was to provide solid fill-in bass at all positions in my open plan living room during music listening, which has been accomplished easily.

@Andrehdr
This is a pretty good summary of why some folks do two subs: Why Go Dual Subwoofers?

Joshua Chmiel said:
Audyssey does a decent job with two subs and gets you 90% there. Yes using REW to place and dial them in is better. Using a MiniDSP will help eek out more performance. One still can't go wrong with two subs and Audyssey. Still far better than just one sub.

OP - It seems like my comment about 2 subs may not be what people believe around here. Personally, I would trust Zorba more than me.

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Soulburner

· #16 · Jul 12, 2021 (Edited)

Zorba922 said:
I'd have to respectfully disagree with this...I have two subs in my living room (a 2.2 music system) and I simply picked the midpoints of two perpendicular/adjacent walls (multipurpose room so a full on "sub crawl" was not feasible). Played around with very simple adjustments of the gain and phase knobs. And voila, they make me very happy as is. I don't doubt that if I bothered learning how to use REW or Umik etc. I could fine tune and micro-calibrate them more precisely, but it's not like the current configuration is some dysfunctional nightmare or anything. The main goal was to provide solid fill-in bass at all positions in my open plan living room during music listening, which has been accomplished easily.

@Andrehdr
This is a pretty good summary of why some folks do two subs: Why Go Dual Subwoofers?

It sounds like you are off to a good start with placement and delays – but EQ will certainly make a big difference and is the next step. And yeah, it really does help to measure.

Soulburner

· #17 · Jul 12, 2021

Garet Jax said:
OP - It seems like my comment about 2 subs may not be what people believe around here. Personally, I would trust Zorba more than me.

Thanks for the comedic relief.

Really though, like many things, it depends. It depends on the room and it depends how good you want it to be. It could take some work or you could have an easy time just using Audyssey and getting 90% there. Mine is the latter but it requires considering where the subwoofers work best and to be willing to accept that the system should be built with the understanding that those locations will be for subs and not other items in the room. In other words, sound is the priority. If sound is not the priority of the room, there is no EQ that can fix everything, but it will certainly help.

samsung84

· #18 · Jul 12, 2021

After reading the room dimensions I would definitely agree with a 2nd sub. A square room in this case 17'x17' is the worst case scenario for bass. I did read that it is open to another space and if it is fully open it may be less of a problem. You can never go wrong with 2 subs to smooth out bass response as long as you are willing to experiment with volume levels and phase to balance the subs.

Ryan Statz

· #19 · Jul 12, 2021

Andrehdr said:
Newbie for Canada here so please be kind

I am finishing my basement and based on some suggestions from member here I am going to go with the following selection for my HT set up. Mainly for movies and bit of PS5 gaming.

The HT room is open to adjacent space and the size of the room 17 x 17 with 7.5 ceiling height

I will be buying the following and please educate me or provide me advice if I am doing something wrong or inefficient.

Projector: Epson 5050ub mounted on ceiling
Elite screen Aeon 3D Cinegrey 135”

Sound: 5.1.4 maybe I will add an extra sub in the future to 5.2.4
Denon x3700H
Two Klipsch RP-8000F tower
Center speaker Klipsch RP-504C
Two surround Klipsch RP-600M
Four ceiling speakers Klipsch CDT-5650 C II
Two SVS PB-1000 or one PB-2000

With two subs (and I'd do the 2000 series), you won't really need the larger 8000F towers - You'd be fine with the 5000F ones as @Zorba922 suggested (or a second pair of 600Ms if you're not averse to bookshelves as your mains). It would put money in your pocket to apply towards a bump somewhere else (either adding that second PB-2000 sub or larger centre channel).

Mind me asking what the total cost of the 8000F, 504c and 600Ms? Just tryna get a sense of budget in case there's a different option you could investigate. That is not to say that those Klipsch speakers aren't good (they are fine speakers - and I don't mean that pejoratively), this "hobby" just has a propensity of making people think "what if...", which usually results in a downward spiral of upgraditis. I am no stranger to that, myself.

@Garet Jax I would also say the HSU sub(s), however the snafu with HSU right now is that the last I heard (this would have been back in April, though) HSU isn't shipping to Canada right now or at all anymore. I haven't gotten confirmation on whether it's temporary, which sucks for me since I have a HSU sub, and would like to get a second one some day.

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Andrehdr

Discussion Starter · #20 · Jul 12, 2021

@Zorba922 @Garet Jax @Soulburner @Ryan Statz @samsung84 @Joshua Chmiel @BNestico here is the layout of my room (pardon the drawing). Sizes not to scale. What do you guys and the rest of you all think? Please constructive feedback

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