[jonlgauthier]

I've searched the web and the only thing I can come up with is Apple's HD Cinema display for the G4.


I'm trying to put together a computer system (for a client) that will be used to display multiple windows of information on a 16:9 display. I'm trying for 1080P resolution, since interlacing just kills horizontal lines in GUI-type displays.


I would rather something with that would work with an analog display card in an Intel-based system, but DVI would do in a pinch. By the way, recommendations for a video card (component, RBG or DVI) would help also.


Sorry for the "commercial" aspect of this post, but I'm looking to buy - not to sell. Well, I guess I will be selling the system to my client, but you get the idea...

 

[rogo]

There is a 24" Samsung display. It's a lot of money.


My good friend has the Apple Cinema Display hooked up to a Radeon 8500. Despite what you will read here, that setup is stunning / gorgeous and highly recommended.


Mark

 

[gotapex]

The only two larger than 23" that can do 1080P are the Samsung 24" and the Sun 24", however, both are 16:10.

 

[Alexander]

Quote:

Originally posted by gotapex The only two larger than 23" that can do 1080P are the Samsung 24" and the Sun 24", however, both are 16:10.

I might add that both of the Apple Cinema Displays are also 16:10, if that's important.


Not that they aren't great. I'm sitting in front of a pair of the 22-inchers right now.


Alex

 

[skeeter]

There are 4 monitors that display 1920x1080 that I know of. The Apple display as mentioned, the Samsung 240T, the Wide 2400A and the Sony GDM-W900.

 

[JShort]

Sony's current model 24" flat-screen "tube" monitor (it's awesome!, about $1750) is GDM-FW900. The W900 model that skeeter mentions above was replaced by this newer one, which was not quite as flat, but may be available for less $$$.


Jim

 

[wjchan]

I saw the Apple Cinema HD display yesterday at the Palo Alto Apple Store. The physical size is definitely impressive. However, the individual pixels are fairly large and the dead area between pixels is quite visible. A solid patch of color looks like a grid of pixels. The large pixels also make small fonts (just standard desktop fonts) look fuzzy. Does Apple use something similar to the Microsoft ClearType technology?


For static images, I definitely prefer the IBM T210. I can tell the Cinema HD display has faster response time.


Where can I see the Samsung 240T in the Bay Area?


(I went to see the Cinema HD again today)

Turns out the demo pictures on the desktop all have this grid artifact. The fonts are still fuzzy due to large pixel size though.

 

[jonlgauthier]

Quote:

Originally posted by wjchan Does Apple use something similar to the Microsoft ClearType technology?

Are you serious? Just kidding - it's well known that although Microsoft claims to have invented ClearType, Apple's been using virtually the same technology since the Apple II! I'd be suprised if the various versions of MacOS and OS X don't do the same thing.


Anyway - thanks, everyone, for the info.

 

[wjchan]

Quote:

Originally posted by jonlgauthier Apple's been using virtually the same technology (ClearType) since the Apple II!

Umm, I don't think so. The Apple II stores the fonts in a ROM and they are simply blasted onto the screen. Quality is very much like MS-DOS. Are you referring to some specific programs that ran on the Apple II?

 

[Alexander]

ClearType is color-fringed anti-aliasing. OS X uses regular antialiasing. I personally find the color fringing distracting.


(On the Mac, Adobe Acrobat can do color-fringed antialiasing so you can see what it looks like. It's an option in one of the menus, and involves a little "pick which looks best" setup screen.)


Also, the color fringing only offers any benefit on LCD displays.


Alex

 

[Alexander]

Quote:

Originally posted by jonlgauthier Apple's been using virtually the same technology since the Apple II!

Oh, heh, I think I might know what he's talking about. The Apple II "high-resolution" graphics mode used some trickery to get 6 colors out of fewer bits than would otherwise be necessary. A side effect of this was that poorly-authored graphics (i.e. most of them) ended up having green/magenta color fringing at the edges, which actually has a similar look to ClearType.


That's actually a really funny comment if you've ever seen the effect in question.


Alex

 

[wjchan]

Quote:

Originally posted by Alexander (On the Mac, Adobe Acrobat can do color-fringed antialiasing so you can see what it looks like. It's an option in one of the menus, and involves a little "pick which looks best" setup screen.) Also, the color fringing only offers any benefit on LCD displays. Alex

Found it under Options. It's called "CoolType." PC version of Acrobat has it also.

This page talks about the origin of ClearType.

 

[bobbyc]

So is wideusa or samsung or LG coming out with a new LCD panel?

Bob C

 

[Nicholas Bedworth]

For high-end quality, the Samsung 240T is the way to go. The Apple panel is exciting for people who aren't concerned with image quality. The Samsung LTM245W is a consumer version of the 240T with an internal standard def tuner, but apparently no DVI input, which is a show-stopper for me if this is true. Their Website is a bit ambiguous, but there's no DVI inputs shown for the 245W but there is for the 240T.

 

[apnar]

Quote:

Originally posted by bobbyc So is wideusa or samsung or LG coming out with a new LCD panel? Bob C

WideUSA has come out with a new version of their panel. It is supposed to be 30% brighter among other improvements.


check out discussion here (towards the end) http://www.edgereview.com/ataglance....y=Video&ID=130


-apnar