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I recently got an RPTV and I'm looking to buy a receiver to replace my ancient Denon, which doesn't even have S-Video connections, much less component. I currently have four video sources (satellite, DVD, VCR, PS2), two of which have component out, and I intend to replace my satellite receiver with an HD model as soon as one's available that I like, which will give me three component video sources. I currently have a 5.1 speaker setup with 8-ohm Polk speakers, and I'm basically happy with that.


I'm looking for a recommendation for a receiver. I'd obviously like to spend as little as possible, and about $1000-1500 is my upper limit. Any suggestions?
 

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In my mind there are only two choices at the $1000 mark: The Pioneer Elite 45TX and the Denon 3803.


The Pioneer looks and sounds great, and has a killer auto-calibration feature.


The Denon has video upconversion, which is cool, but has been problematic for some.


I had the same budget and ended up going with the 45TX.
 

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I'm currently going through the same process at about the same price point. When I first started looking at receivers, I thought I was going to be set on the 45tx, but the shop where I bought my speakers was trying to sell me a Marantz SR7300, and even gave me a SR6300 on loan for a week. I've looked at the Denon 3803 a little as well. My take on Marantz, just from what I've researched on formus and talking to people, is that they have had some quality control issues over the past few years (namely with their 7200 and 7300). The 7300 has similar specs to the 45 or 3803, but I don't want to risk my system being down half the time due to quality issues. My take on the video upconversion of the 3803 is all what you make of it. From talking to a local expert, it seems that although the 3803 will take a composite or S-video signal and feed it through component outputs, that you do not receive any real benefit in picture quality. I think it's more of a compatibility feature feature than anything. I have not really looked at Onkyo or HK either. I looked at Yamaha's a little and they seem like they are pretty good. All in all, I think I've talked myself back to where I started from, with the 45tx. Best of luck.
 

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One additional point - I have a contact at Sony who can get me a deal on Sony product. I haven't been hearing very good things about any Sony receivers that are in my price range though. All else being equal, I'd rather get a Sony just for the price break.
 

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Asher, I thought you were willing to spend over $600? If so, you can get a Sony DA4ES. I would have purchased it over any receiver that I found under $2000. I found a couple receivers (flagship Yamaha & Pioneer) that I liked better, but they were over $2000. Sony DA4ES was the easy choice with great features & tweakability, clean undistorted sound, and a lot of power for music or HT either one. 2 sets of component inputs, but I wouldn't let that be too much of a factor. It's not going to help when you need DVI. See these threads:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...13#post2090313
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=243746
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=244758
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=244894
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=243124
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=243754
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=237866
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http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=6
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=241913
 

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Thanks for the input, I greatly appreciate it.


OK, so now I'm trying to understand upconversion (since my current receiver only has composite, it was never an issue before). Am I correct in thinking that in a receiver that doesn't have it, I can't use the composite out to hook to my TV unless I'm getting a signal from a composite in? So, if I had four video sources (two component, an S-video, and a composite) I'd need to use at least two different inputs on the TV, and possibly three? That seems like a fairly significant hassle to me, and it's hard to imagine why every mid-to-high-end receiver doesn't have it.


What I'd really like, of course, would be 3 component inputs. I've been realizing that you can't get that without spending multiple thousands. Sigh. Maybe when I am in that position I'll have to get an external video switcher and a learning universal remote so that I don't need *yet* another remote to control my gear.
 

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With the DA4ES, it has composite to s-video upconversion. So you would need no more than 2 video connectors to the TV, s-video and component. But actually, I prefer to use the TV for my video switching because you can assign video settings specific to different inputs which is more convenient than what I would get from the receiver doing it. Like I said, as soon as you need DVI, you're going to need to use the TV switching again.


By the way, almost no receivers have bass redirection from the multi-channel inputs including the flagship Yamaha and Pioneer products. And NO receiver with an EQ has bass redirection for the multi-channel inputs. So if you're interested in DVD-A or other multi-channel input sources, you should take that into consideration.
 

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Rex,

I also need recommendations for a receiver around $200. I am considering the following? If you can recommend any that is better at this price point please let me know. I will need a center channel level control I assume all the 5:1 receivers have this capability. I am a newbie and will appreciate your inputs.


1. Onkyo Tx-8511 $257

2. Poineer 811 $229
 

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After reading reviews of all the recommended receivers, I went ahead and ordered the STR-DA4ES. Thanks to everybody who offered advice and assistance!
 
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