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Thanks for taking the time to review. I just read a similar post but the requester was looking for something new. I would prefer to get a better deal on something used. I purchased from AudiogoN before and very happy with the transaction.


1. Your budget. $400 max (no problem going less) and prefer used since I know I get more bang for the buck (AudiogoN, ebay, etc.)


2. Size requirements/limits. None.


3. Room dimensions. 11x14 with a sloped ceiling that goes from 9ft in the back to about 16ft in the front. Large opening to the left to the kitchen. Glass windows covering two walls.


4. Primary uses. 50% music, 50% movies, no gaming.


5. Listening habits. I don't crank the volume that often with the exception of a good manly movie from time to time.


6. Appearance requirements. Prefer something with a grain look. Have dark wood floors in the house and the front three speakers are cherry but in the end if it doesn't look great but sounds good for the dollar spent I'll be fine.


7. Timeframe. If there is a good used deal now, I will buy immediately but could also wait as I'm in no rush.



I just updgraded to a Denon AVR-2112ci (on the way). I currently have two Design Era 4 (6 ohm) bookshelf front speakers and the matching center Design 4 LCR which sound great. I'm looking for advice on what might be good to pair with them when it comes to a sub. I will eventually pick up some used rear speakers but figured a sub would be the next step.


I purchased the two front speakers used off of AudiogoN and the center from Underwood HiFi so would prefer to get something used or on a super sale (last year model) since I don't need cutting edge or shiny new.


My main input is my HTPC over HDMI for movies and music. I might also push TV (U Verse) through but not a priority right now.


I have done some digging since I didn't want to come to the table with nothing but have limited knowledge and appreciate some direction. I'm open to anything else that you might have seen for sale that fits my needs.

Klipsch Reference Series RW-10d - Subwoofer - $330

M&K Miller & Kreisel KX-10 new powered 8 subwoofer. - $220

---Too small?

AV123 Onix UFW-10 Rosewood - $325

Klipsch RW-12 Subwoofer-$350

Rel Acoustics, Ltd. T3 sub bass system black ash finish, new in box-$399 obo


a d s Sub 12 Powered Subwoofer-$250


Many thanks.
 

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^ I agree. You could buy a new sub of equal or better quality in your price range.


The Rel looks like a quality sub for music in smaller rooms. Here are some other popular internet direct choices:


Emotiva Ultra 12: $429 shipped
http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub12.shtm


Outlaw audio LFM-1 Compact: $399 plus shipping (similar to HSU STF-2)
http://outlawaudio.com/products/lfmcompact.html


ED A2-300: $415 plus shipping
http://www.edesignaudio.com/product_...roducts_id=407


CHT CS 10.2: $400 plus shipping
http://www.chasehometheater.com/inde...art&Itemid=112


Some other subs that are not as popular on this forum but perhaps still good performers:


Jamo Sub 650
http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/it...9/jamo-sub-650


Cadence CSX-12 mkII
http://www.cadencehometheaterspeaker...2&idproduct=16
 

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Sincere thanks for the quick replies. Interesting to see that you both would recommend buying new over used but my max budget does allow for some new lower priced subs. I have seen discussions between the new subs listed so can do research if I decide to go that route.


You both have listed subs that are around $400. I struggle a bit with buying this new since I would assume that I could get a comparable sub for $300 used. Is that a poor assumption?


Thanks again for the advice.
 

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I recommend searching Craigslist and Audiogon. I recently picked up a used Outlaw Audio LFM-1 in great condition for $200. If you're patient, you'll find a great deal.


The Emotiva is a nice new option as well.
 

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Originally Posted by dftkell /forum/post/20806208


I recommend searching Craigslist and Audiogon. I recently picked up a used Outlaw Audio LFM-1 in great condition for $200. If you're patient, you'll find a great deal.


The Emotiva is a nice new option as well.

Which LFM-1 did you get? Compact, plus, EX?
 

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Thank you all for the great recommendations. I felt a pang of guilt for spending $400 on a new sub. I'm sure if I was patient I could have found a killer deal on an amazing sub but thought the RW-12 was worth throwing an offer on. I found from research on these forums that NewEgg had a deal, after discount of $350 on a new one earlier this year that a few people were snagging it up. I provided that info to the seller along with an offer of $200 + shipping ($50) and he accepted. I know users have experiences with port chafing on this model and hope it either doesn't impact me or I can live with it.


Hopefully I picked up a fairly decent sub at a fairly decent price.

Klipsch RW-12 Subwoofer-$350


Thanks again and maybe I won't feel bad for finding a decent deal on some decent rear speakers to round out my first 5.1 setup.


Thanks again.
 

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One thing I've heard people do about "port chafing/chuffing"...


Those "covers" you put on the end of the PVC conduit for the exhaust to escape a gas water heater, and that keeps birds etc out...put one of those in the port. You can find them at hardware stores. Just make sure you measure the port first.


Or you can get some "not overly dense" foam at a fabric store and cover it in very light(as in weight) fabric and make a port plug that still lets air through...just a lessened amount.
 
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