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Looking to build a speaker set in my one bedroom apartment. It would be in the living with plenty of open space, however it can’t be too loud of a set as I don’t want to disturb the neighbors. I’ve been looking at around a $1500 budget and would be using it mostly for movies and games. Any recommendations? I’ve see a klipsch set on sale for 1149 would this be a good option? https://www.adorama.com/kpr625fak5.html?sdtid=14175044&emailprice=t&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-UkiUOVQFz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

This is a bit over my budget but comes with a receiver

https://www.adorama.com/kp1065796b.html?sdtid=14169305&emailprice=t&sterm=VkLWhQ3VXxyOWyrwUx0Mo34GUkiUmEQB3TQOSI0&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-
UkiUOhRdz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

And there’s this jamo set for 1250
https://www.adorama.com/ja1064578k2.html

Would these be considered good buys? Thanks!
 

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Does the budget include the 5.1 speakers/sub and the AVR?

Slickdeals has sales on Jamo speakers at great prices. They're not as efficient/loud as the Klipsch ones, but the price is right. Unfortunately the bookshelves don't seem to be on sale any more.
Here's the same set you posted for less than half the price (from the same site no less!). Make sure to click from slickdeals for the sale URL.
https://slickdeals.net/f/14028395-jamo-speakers-pair-s-809-s-81-center-pair-s-801-bookshelves-s-810-sub-549-more-free-s-h?src=SiteSearchV2_SearchBarV2Algo1

Or you can make a "custom" 5.1 with the larger S 83 center channel and less expensive, but similar performing S 807 towers. You can "listen" at Crutchfield to compare.
https://slickdeals.net/f/14073659-jamo-speaker-sale-jamo-s-83-center-speaker-119-more-free-s-h
https://slickdeals.net/f/14123387-pair-jamo-s-807-floorstanding-dolby-atmos-ready-speakers-walnut-169-free-s-h
Since the Jamo bookshelves aren't on sale any more, you can get different bookshelves for surrounds to save a little If you don't mind a different look. Refurbished Polk R150 bookshelves from accessories4less may do.

That leaves a lot more for the AV Receiver and Subwoofer. If you prefer to keep the price low but outperform the Jamo J 12 in the bundle, look at some of the recommended budget subs, or one from a comparison roundup.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1364182-list-budget-subwoofers-300-less.html
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-budget-subwoofer/
The Dayton SUB-1200, SUB-1500, BIC F12, H-100ii, PL-200ii are all relatively popular and should outperform the Jamo J 12. The SUB-1200 costs less as well.
For a big step up in performance, consider the SVS PB-1000 if you want a "safe" return policy from their site or Best Buy, or the Monolith 10", which will outperform it, but doesn't have in-home trial.

For the AVR, there are several ways to go. You only need 5.1/2 so consider
Denon AVR-S540BT or Yamaha RX-V385 - Very basic 5.1 , with bluetooth. Yamaha's YPAO is probably a bit better at room correction than the basic Denon one
Denon AVR-S650H or Yamaha RX-V485 - Adds networking/streaming, HEOS/MusicCast ecosystem, AirPlay 2 compatibility. Yamaha can do Zone 2 if interested. Denon Audyssey MultEQ is probably better at room correction.

Once at 7.1 you could step up to more capable models instead of the linear progression to AVR-S750H, RX-V585.
Yamaha TSR-7850 is a Costco model, effectively identical to the RX-A780. It's a better value than the RX-V585 and adds better room correction with YPAO RSC. Apparently the website doesn't list them currently, but people report seeing them at the warehouse.
Denon AVR-X1600H is a step-up over the S750H. It has better room correction with Audyssey MultEQ XT compared to S series.

If you're OK with refurbished/renewed units, many of the above can be found at accessories4less (Denon, Yamaha RX) or amazon (also Yamaha TSR) for lower prices.
If you don't mind breaking budget slightly, a refurbished Denon AVR-X3500H is a big step up with Audyssey MultEQ XT32. That price would include the SVS or Monolith sub.

You could get the Klipsch speaker bundle you posted and one of the receivers mentioned and stay within budget with a low-end receiver, or break it a bit with the better receivers.
The Klipsch bundle you posted is an Atmos 5.1.2 setup. You'd need a 7.1 Atmos receiver to take full advantage of it.
You'll end up breaking budget a little, but have an Atmos system. I'm not a fan of bouncing the sound from the ceiling, but you'd have the option. The price is not bad at all.

Looking to build a speaker set in my one bedroom apartment. It would be in the living with plenty of open space, however it can’t be too loud of a set as I don’t want to disturb the neighbors. I’ve been looking at around a $1500 budget and would be using it mostly for movies and games. Any recommendations? I’ve see a klipsch set on sale for 1149 would this be a good option? https://www.adorama.com/kpr625fak5.html?sdtid=14175044&emailprice=t&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-UkiUOVQFz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

This is a bit over my budget but comes with a receiver

https://www.adorama.com/kp1065796b.html?sdtid=14169305&emailprice=t&sterm=VkLWhQ3VXxyOWyrwUx0Mo34GUkiUmEQB3TQOSI0&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-
UkiUOhRdz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

And there’s this jamo set for 1250
https://www.adorama.com/ja1064578k2.html

Would these be considered good buys? Thanks!
 

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Looking to build a speaker set in my one bedroom apartment. It would be in the living with plenty of open space, however it can’t be too loud of a set as I don’t want to disturb the neighbors. I’ve been looking at around a $1500 budget and would be using it mostly for movies and games. Any recommendations? I’ve see a klipsch set on sale for 1149 would this be a good option? https://www.adorama.com/kpr625fak5.html?sdtid=14175044&emailprice=t&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-UkiUOVQFz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

This is a bit over my budget but comes with a receiver

https://www.adorama.com/kp1065796b.html?sdtid=14169305&emailprice=t&sterm=VkLWhQ3VXxyOWyrwUx0Mo34GUkiUmEQB3TQOSI0&sterm=yfp3SCT94xyOTDH07OwzdzZ-
UkiUOhRdz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905

And there’s this jamo set for 1250
https://www.adorama.com/ja1064578k2.html

Would these be considered good buys? Thanks!
Klipsch R and Jamo have not been well received on AVS, the Klipsch RP series has but no need to spend that much and those towers are simply huge.

Within your budget this has been well received.

https://www.amazon.com/Polk-Audio-Signature-Acoustech-Subwoofer/dp/B06W2N5TPC/ref=sr_1_66?dchild=1&fst=as:off&keywords=5.1+surround+sound+system&qid=1594153603&refinements=p_89:Polk+Audio&rnid=2528832011&s=electronics&sr=1-66

Receiver.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/denon-avr-s540bt-receiver-5-2-channel-4k-ultra-hd-audio-and-video-home-theater-system-built-in-bluetooth-and-usb-black/6210100.p?skuId=6210100&ref=212&loc=1&ref=212&loc=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwupD4BRD4ARIsABJMmZ_OtsftSJ5yiuFk9ZxTA8jJbmiM1ktE4KGndkzw64kWBtxNqaxLpKAaAmwwEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
 

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The Polk speakers are definitely a step up from the Jamos, and the BIC sub is a step up from the basic stuff short of the SVS/Monolith.
At that point, since you said "around a $1500 budget", I'd advocate breaking it a bit to get a receiver with better room correction and networking/streaming capabilities.

Looking to build a speaker set in my one bedroom apartment. It would be in the living with plenty of open space... I’ve been looking at around a $1500 budget and would be using it mostly for movies and games.
 

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Pretty much any sub is going to disturb the neighbors in a apartment....... might as well skip that for now and get better speakers.



I would limit your mains to 6.5 inch drivers or less for the same reason.......



While surround is cool for games, its better when its loud......even though I have a large system, nothing beats headphones for gaming.



I would get a receiver, preferably Atmos and 3 mains up front to start out with........and see how that goes,...adding a pair of rears or heights later is easy.


Some smaller quality speakers and Atmos can give you a very immersive experience in movies and games at lower volumes....you can also get shakers for the seats which gives that big bass feel without disturbing others. They are viable replacements for subs , when subs are a no go.....



I have 5 subs in my room, but late night loud movies and 18 inch subs do not mix with neighbors house 20 feet away, so I turn off the subs and go with the shakers. Many times I have to get out of the seat and listen from the other room as it sounds/feels like the bass is too much for that late, only to realize I can hardly hear it in the next room. Sitting in the seat it feels/sounds like my 18`s are pounding, until I get up and realize all is good and the law is not coming from noise complaints.
 

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The Polk speakers are definitely a step up from the Jamos, and the BIC sub is a step up from the basic stuff short of the SVS/Monolith.
At that point, since you said "around a $1500 budget", I'd advocate breaking it a bit to get a receiver with better room correction and networking/streaming capabilities.
Thats good to know! Yes I can give wiggle room to get a more higher quality receiver. The polk setup looks nice. I'm not too familiar with the jamos brand other than the price seems fairly cheap, same with the kilpsch reference line for $1200. I was debating earlier on getting the cheaper reference bundle and a 7.1 atmos Yamaha reciver with it, but seems the reference line is not well regarded? I could probably get away with not needing a high powerd sub living in a apartment. I like the idea of smaller dolby atmos speakers for a immersive sound? Adomora has the Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-140SA Dolby Atmos Speakers on sale for 219. With these would I just need 2 for two tower speakers, or 4 total 2 front and 2 on back rears?

https://www.adorama.com/kprp140sab.html?sdtid=14106041&emailprice=t&sterm=zKx1AJQ2rxyOUpAxTSQPxVT4UkiUIVwBz0j03Q0&utm_source=rflaid62905
 

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Jamo seems to be decent for the price, and while they're definitely not as sensitive as the Klipsch or Polk speakers, they don't sound bad (at least on the Crutchfield site). I don't see many complaints.
There are some youtube videos with close-mic'ed recordings as well. If you don't mind turning the volume up on the receiver to get the same sound levels, they might be worth some savings.
Polk (like Klipsch) has a name brand and broad distribution and support that may be worth more to you.

Considering that the Atmos speakers won't get much data to play, aren't critical for detail/accuracy, and may bounce off the ceilings, you might consider less expensive options.
The Pioneer SP-T22A-LR are going for a very low price. I can't find detailed specs for the Klipsch ones, but I suspect that the Horns on the Klipsch play louder. The both have 4" woofers, but the cerametallic ones on the Klipsch may have broader range.
https://www.pioneerhomeusa.com/product/sp-t22a-lr/
https://www.klipsch.com/products/elevation-speakers

As to how many you'd need, you need to figure out the Atmos setup you're going for, and what receiver you'd need.
https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/

At your current price point, that's probably a 7 channel receiver, which can do 5.1.2, so 5 from the "floor" level, 1 for the sub channel, then 2 more for Atmos.
You'd need a 9 channel receiver to get to 4 Atmos speakers for 5.1.4, but the price jumps a lot, unless you want to roll the dice on the cost-cutting Onkyo TX-RX630/Pioneer VSX-LX303 models, if you can even find them.
If you go for one of those, I advocate a dedicated cooling unit. I base that opinion on this analysis. The Onkyo shares a lot of design elements with the Pioneer.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-pioneer-vsx-lx303-avr.7503/


Thats good to know! Yes I can give wiggle room to get a more higher quality receiver. The polk setup looks nice. I'm not too familiar with the jamos brand other than the price seems fairly cheap
I was debating earlier on getting the cheaper reference bundle and a 7.1 atmos Yamaha reciver with it, but seems the reference line is not well regarded?
I like the idea of smaller dolby atmos speakers for a immersive sound?
Adomora has the Klipsch Reference Premiere RP-140SA Dolby Atmos Speakers on sale for 219. With these would I just need 2 for two tower speakers, or 4 total 2 front and 2 on back rears?
 

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@SpacePirate......The Klipsch or Polk bookshelf are nice for apartment size. I would add a subwoofer to get the max out of the speakers/sound quality, and turn the volume/gain down on the sub. The center speaker is the center of attention in any home system.

Spend money on the AVR $500.00+ for a 7.1. Just my suggestions. Good luck with your basic set-up
 

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Jamo seems to be decent for the price, and while they're definitely not as sensitive as the Klipsch or Polk speakers, they don't sound bad (at least on the Crutchfield site). I don't see many complaints.
There are some youtube videos with close-mic'ed recordings as well. If you don't mind turning the volume up on the receiver to get the same sound levels, they might be worth some savings.
Polk (like Klipsch) has a name brand and broad distribution and support that may be worth more to you.

Considering that the Atmos speakers won't get much data to play, aren't critical for detail/accuracy, and may bounce off the ceilings, you might consider less expensive options.
The Pioneer SP-T22A-LR are going for a very low price. I can't find detailed specs for the Klipsch ones, but I suspect that the Horns on the Klipsch play louder. The both have 4" woofers, but the cerametallic ones on the Klipsch may have broader range.
https://www.pioneerhomeusa.com/product/sp-t22a-lr/
https://www.klipsch.com/products/elevation-speakers

As to how many you'd need, you need to figure out the Atmos setup you're going for, and what receiver you'd need.
https://www.dolby.com/about/support/guide/speaker-setup-guides/

At your current price point, that's probably a 7 channel receiver, which can do 5.1.2, so 5 from the "floor" level, 1 for the sub channel, then 2 more for Atmos.
You'd need a 9 channel receiver to get to 4 Atmos speakers for 5.1.4, but the price jumps a lot, unless you want to roll the dice on the cost-cutting Onkyo TX-RX630/Pioneer VSX-LX303 models, if you can even find them.
If you go for one of those, I advocate a dedicated cooling unit. I base that opinion on this analysis. The Onkyo shares a lot of design elements with the Pioneer.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/review-and-measurements-of-pioneer-vsx-lx303-avr.7503/
Thats true I did not think of the 9 channel receiver! I'll stick a quality 7.1 for price. Is the Klipsch reference models really considered bad? Even then with its sale its about double the price of the jamos, would I expect similiar sound quality? I'm assuming these would still be vastly superior to any of the new lg/samsung soundbars?
 

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I can't comment on the sound quality of the different Klipsch models, as I've only "heard" them through the Crutchfield comparison tool. If you have a set of headphones that they've calibrated for, it can't hurt to see what they have.
The easiest thing to hear based on cost is the sensitivity. You can set the tool to play based on same power or same volume. Then the question is - what would you pay for the differences that you hear?
The Jamo, Klipsch (both levels) and Polk speakers are all there except for the integrated Atmos ones, but there's a similar non-Atmos model.

I think that even the least expensive speakers that could be considered passable (Monoprice? Dayton?) should outperform a soundbar.
Soundbars are trying to do a lot with the limited physical resources. At the very least, they have these compromises:
They don't have large drivers or optimal internal space for for the drivers.
They can't use a lot of power without damaging the small drivers.
They can't put the speakers in optimal locations for surround or immersive audio.
They rely on bouncing sound off of ceilings and walls at the same time with overlapping sound fields to make an immersive effect.
They have to use less powerful subs to not overwhelm the speakers in the bar.

Yet they're "designed" to deliver 5.1.2 (or higher) Atmos sound at a lower price point than separate speakers.
(I put "quote marks" because I think they're really "designed" to satisfy a checklist so they can sell them. "7.1.6 Atmos without wires!").

Soundbars can really only win on space taken and lack or reduction of wires. About the only thing they have a chance to compete on is as a center channel, as it's nominally in the same location as a separate center speaker.
Even then, all the other compromises make that hard as well. OTOH, whatever they can offer will greatly exceed whatever the TV's stereo speakers could manage. That's the sweet spot.
I think that a soundbar trying to do anything past 3.1 (5.1 with wireless rears or long cables) can't really be expected to do to much.

Thats true I did not think of the 9 channel receiver! I'll stick a quality 7.1 for price. Is the Klipsch reference models really considered bad? Even then with its sale its about double the price of the jamos, would I expect similiar sound quality? I'm assuming these would still be vastly superior to any of the new lg/samsung soundbars?
 

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I can't comment on the sound quality of the different Klipsch models, as I've only "heard" them through the Crutchfield comparison tool. If you have a set of headphones that they've calibrated for, it can't hurt to see what they have.
The easiest thing to hear based on cost is the sensitivity. You can set the tool to play based on same power or same volume. Then the question is - what would you pay for the differences that you hear?
The Jamo, Klipsch (both levels) and Polk speakers are all there except for the integrated Atmos ones, but there's a similar non-Atmos model.

I think that even the least expensive speakers that could be considered passable (Monoprice? Dayton?) should outperform a soundbar.
Soundbars are trying to do a lot with the limited physical resources. At the very least, they have these compromises:
They don't have large drivers or optimal internal space for for the drivers.
They can't use a lot of power without damaging the small drivers.
They can't put the speakers in optimal locations for surround or immersive audio.
They rely on bouncing sound off of ceilings and walls at the same time with overlapping sound fields to make an immersive effect.
They have to use less powerful subs to not overwhelm the speakers in the bar.

Yet they're "designed" to deliver 5.1.2 (or higher) Atmos sound at a lower price point than separate speakers.
(I put "quote marks" because I think they're really "designed" to satisfy a checklist so they can sell them. "7.1.6 Atmos without wires!").

Soundbars can really only win on space taken and lack or reduction of wires. About the only thing they have a chance to compete on is as a center channel, as it's nominally in the same location as a separate center speaker.
Even then, all the other compromises make that hard as well. OTOH, whatever they can offer will greatly exceed whatever the TV's stereo speakers could manage. That's the sweet spot.
I think that a soundbar trying to do anything past 3.1 (5.1 with wireless rears or long cables) can't really be expected to do to much.
Thanks I will checkout the crutchfield comparison tool! Unfortunately I dont have a exact headphone model on thier list but should be close enough . I appreciate your input and recomendations. I had a friend send me the jamos c 95 series which is also on sale https://www.adorama.com/ja1066712k1.html?sdtid=14051837&emailprice=t&sterm=2NFW8dRzNxyOU020TWXZ0S3wUkiUNBzpTUK9UU0&utm_source=rflaid62905
Says its a step up from the s series but I cant find many reviews on it.
 

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@SpacePirate, My bookshelf Klipsch and Polk with AVR and subwoofer, are as good as it gets for my ears. Klipsch R and Polk S series will be just fine for your apartment size environment.

If using only as 2 channel stereo, they will be more on the treble side. I think that is where the complaints might be, which reviewers fail to mention.

With a nice AVR having auto room sound calibration, you will have a nice experience. Then, with the AVR, you will have different sound modes to select for movies, music, etc. Some AVR's will have tone adjustments too. Again, Good Luck

I do have an extra pair of Klipsch R-15m, R-25C
, 8" yamaha YST subwoofer, and a couple JBL bookshelf. I live in Janesville, WI. for pickup. Just looking for someone that can use with min cost. Perfect condition.​
 

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@SpacePirate, My bookshelf Klipsch and Polk with AVR and subwoofer, are as good as it gets for my ears. Klipsch R and Polk S series will be just fine for your apartment size environment.

If using only as 2 channel stereo, they will be more on the treble side. I think that is where the complaints might be, which reviewers fail to mention.

With a nice AVR having auto room sound calibration, you will have a nice experience. Then, with the AVR, you will have different sound modes to select for movies, music, etc. Some AVR's will have tone adjustments too. Again, Good Luck

I do have an extra pair of Klipsch R-15m, R-25C
, 8" yamaha YST subwoofer, and a couple JBL bookshelf. I live in Janesville, WI. for pickup. Just looking for someone that can use with min cost. Perfect condition.​


Thanks! I appreciate the offer but I'm a bit far from you. How accurate would you say the crutchfield sound app is? Cause honestly im having a hard time telling the difference between different models of the klipsch R and premier. If that's the case I might just buy the klipsch R bundle with dolby atmos and get a good receiver. I noticed newegg has the pioneer bookshelf and atmos speakers on sell for relatively cheap all in stock except the floor speakers. Not sure how these stack up to the jamos/klipsch since their price seems so low! https://slickdeals.net/f/14111504-pioneer-sp-bs22a-lr-compact-speakers-for-dolby-atmos-by-andrew-jones-pair-129-free-shipping?page=7#commentsBox
 

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Thanks! I appreciate the offer but I'm a bit far from you. How accurate would you say the crutchfield sound app is? Cause honestly im having a hard time telling the difference between different models of the klipsch R and premier. If that's the case I might just buy the klipsch R bundle with dolby atmos and get a good receiver. I noticed newegg has the pioneer bookshelf and atmos speakers on sell for relatively cheap all in stock except the floor speakers. Not sure how these stack up to the jamos/klipsch since their price seems so low! https://slickdeals.net/f/14111504-pioneer-sp-bs22a-lr-compact-speakers-for-dolby-atmos-by-andrew-jones-pair-129-free-shipping?page=7#commentsBox
It is up to you and the RP series as a whole are overall better sounding If adding Atmos to the Surround system, you'll need a 9.1 receiver. My current bookshelf R-51M, L/R speakers, I can't tell any outstanding difference than with the previous R-15M. Maybe there would be a huge difference with the RP series L/R speakers. I have a small 12X10 room and Klipsch bookshelf R Series, are more than enough. Go with what speakers that you think will work for your room.. MY budget type speakers have performed to my expectations, which I bought on sale at Crutchfield and Best Buy, at different times. My Polk S-20's as surrounds, are nice to me. Polk Series are good too, on a budget and sound quality is pretty good. Again, a lot has to do with having a subwoofer with lower end speakers and adjust to the right gain. Good luck
 
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