Lumen star screen 500.1 contrast ration new tech. from Japan unreal/

It sounds similar (though I don't know if it is) to VuTecs new screen, but without the size limitation. Hopefully it won't be so pricey, either.


How'd you find this? Do you know anything besides what's on the site (like who makes it)?


Thanks for the tip!


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Noah

Angeli662,


How did you find the number of research hours for this? Did a company rep. tell you this? If so, who?


Who did the research?


If thousands of hours of research was done, why are they claiming a 500:1 contrast ratio? It is not possible for ANY screen alone to cause ANY particular contrast ratio. Even magic screens must obey the laws of physics, right?


Think for a minute now. They are either A. making a deliberately misleading claim (lying to sell screens), or B. mistaken (ignorant of even the most basic screen science).


The screen may be a wonderful product, but there is something seriously wrong with the way the company is marketing it. Caution and skepticism are warranted.



You might also be surprised to learn how much research and science is used to grow corn in the midwest. I won't make up an hour number http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif , but it is certainly higher than a projector screen project.

"If thousands of hours of research was done, why are they claiming a 500:1 contrast ratio?"



What does one have to do with the other?


"It is not possible for ANY screen alone to cause ANY particular contrast ratio."


I've seen contrast ratio attributed to screens before, although I've not seen the definition of it. I'm guessing it would be sonmething like what the contrast would be in a given level of ambient light assuming the projector itself is not the limiting factor.


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Noah

VUTEC BLACK STAR 60.1 contrast ratio. are you people for real?

There is a whole new world happening out there stop being so narrow minded.

Japan and Europe has being watching HDTV for the past 20 years we still trying to fight for a half dozen commercial loaded channels.

I particularly love Japanese technology and I believe my dealer when he said this is a beautiful screen, but I wont know until I get my. I just posted what I had learned about it.It seems to me every time there is a new product in the market, there is this instant reaction, perhaps is the fact that the product you just purchased yesterday is obsolete today, I always looking for new technology, it excites me,

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Angeli662


You keep repeating that this product is new. Do you actually know when it was first sold? Or is this another "fact" like the thousands of hours of research in your other post.


And where did you find a 60:1 claim for the Vutec screen? Is it on their web site? Brochure? Hmmm - I hope you're not just repeating what some possibly clueless salesperson might have told you. They are not always entirely accurate, you know.


Maybe we're all real and it's just the same old world with the same old laws of math and physics after all. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


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currahee

But I thought we were going to "get real". Or at least factual. Now we will never know for sure if you were just BS'n or not.

I have been to Newa Yorka Cidia too http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


Anybody seen Noah?


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currahee

Yes,

Vutec Blackstar contrast ratio 60:1 was there for all the world to see.At CEDIA of course.Except for initial price it has lots of potential(maybe lumenstar is even better but knock a zero off!)

Esp for CRT performance.

The numbers game is not for the wary.Just let me try the product under controlled conditions.No better still have Stacey Spears do it!Then give him the sample. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif

Regards Ron


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Ron

"Your priorities will be different-its the weighting that counts!"

FYI, in addition to R&D costs there would also be a large amount of money put into tooling to make the screen (i.e. molds, etc.).


That's not to say the price they are charging won't price them out of many markets.


Also, this screen currently has a max. size of 60" (according to Kei Clark, who had seen the product, in another thread) and larger sizes are seamed together like the Vutec Black Star.


Interesting technology, but unfortunately not really practical for most of us.


Regards,


Kam Fung

Noah


Good to see you again. Why won't you post the list of screens with a specific "contrast ratio" you claimed to have earlier? That would be constructive. Again, if you just "can't remember" we will all know what you mean.


But listen. If you two guys want me to continue to act as your preceptor, you have to start trying a little harder. Don't just claim as fact things you HOPE to be true. Some poor newbie might believe your posts and consequently get ripped off on a large AV purchase. If I remained silent, I would have to carry part of that guilt.


Once again, in a simpler format -


Screen = Possibly good, definitely expensive.

People selling screen = Either ignorant, or crooks (or both).


Please be very careful when making a large purchase here.


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currahee

Not bad Angeli662. And it only took 27 hrs to come up with.


Let's see. Issues still unresolved.


1. Verification of research hours you claimed.


2. Verification this is a "new" screen. (Those pictures have been on the web for over 1 year, BTW http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif )


3.List of other screens with a "contrast ratio". (Noah)


Assignments are already overdue http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


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currahee