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I picked one up last week, and after making sure it was working, I updated it directly to 727V. I didn't even bother checking what version it came with (except I know it wasn't 727V because it lacked the ability to add a title to a timer recording). Anyway, it's working fine with the 727V firmware, and it was manufactured in May, 2011.

Thanks for the info. Yours is an early-513 and must have had 718 FW, so I might try the same with both of mine, no matter if they're early- or late-513's.


Yours were NEW, right, not refurb... refurbs could have been updated by Funai. 515 refurbs have shown up with an "odd" 726V.
 

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Yours were NEW, right, not refurb... refurbs could have been updated by Funai. 515 refurbs have shown up with an "odd" 726V.

I got it from Walmart (site-to-store), so it should be new; and it appeared to be new.
 

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Wajo - I just got my 513 today and tested it to save content off a DirecTV H20 I also have with it set to 480p normal composite connection to the 513 HDD and dubbed to DVD and it works right (thanks for the setup directions!).


For my main purpose, I have a Panasonic 55ST30 TV (let's ignore possible RF issues) and DirecTV HD DVR H24. I am not using any other input and want to manually record from the HD DVR to HDD on the 513 and dub to DVD the saved output from the DirecTV DVR.


Here are my options:


1) Use a high speed HDMI splitter so I can still keep an HDMI connection to the Panasonic and feed the other split content through a Monoprice HDMI to composite converter (switched power to only use the converter when needed) when I want to down load content to the 513 HDD and then dub DVD.


or


2) Use a Monoprice RGB component to composite converter (also power switched when needed) from the DirecTV HD DVR to the 513 to save to the HDD and dub to DVD.


Which is the better way to go?
 

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sgidurango,


First, your H20 is one of the STBs that will send 16:9 WS via its composite or S-Video output (whichever it has), so I assume you're wanting to use the converters for stripping CP? If only for WS preervation, I'd go w/o a converter.


If you want/need a converter, then I'd try the HDMI one first since, in MY setup, it provides a slightly better pic, and it will work in the future on Bluray players that will soon have NO analog outputs (the "analog sunset"). Make sure you read the CP help file on those converters and understand that I might have the ONLY converter in the world that produces a great pic, prob. cuz I lead a charmed life!



I don't use switchers, so what you plan sounds OK to me as long as they don't cause HDCP issues where connections make all the difference, as described in the Tips here. #12 has some Tips specifically for DirecTV users.
 

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WOW! Glad I got mine delivered from Walmart today! It was a new 513 with a June 2011 build date. Since I assumed there would be some available for a day or so (in case of worst case failure) I tried to update the FW but had the same issues reported by a couple guys about a week or so. The load progresses to what seems like the end but then quits. I tried a CD and a DVD. I guess I'll just keep it like it is and try loading the FW another time since it is working now and I have one. A bird in the hand and all that...


Thanks again Wajo for all the work and great information in this thread!

What firmware is currently on your 513 and what has been your experience updating? I've had problems loading updated firmware to my new 513 but it may be due to the accidental loading of 715 FW onto the 513. So now my 515 is stuck with 715 FW.



Wajo, any ideas?


Jim
 

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Yes, potential CP removal is a primary motivation for using the converter. I have previously used an old Sony RDR-GX300 DVDR to record from SD content and I expect this setup will be much more satisfactory. I have a HDMI-composite converter on order that should be here later today so I can test for sure.


When I said I was going to switch, I just meant that I was only going to turn off power to the converter when not in use but will keep standby power to the 513. The Monoprice 2-1 HDMI splitter I mentioned is HERE. I did not mention it but will be using HDMI from the 513 to the TV.


BTW, to update your referenced D*TV information, they have what they call "autotune". With that, you can select a future program (or multiple programs) from their on-screen menu and select a program to run in the future. The receiver will switch to that channel at the right time and play that show. Using that feature, it would be easy to autotune a future program with the D*TV receiver and set the 513 to start at the same time. Since I am not using the 513's resident tuner for another content source, this will allow an option beyond real-time recording and recording stored programs on the D*TV HD DVR.




Thanks for all your help!
 

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What firmware is currently on your 513 and what has been your experience updating? I've had problems loading updated firmware to my new 513 but it may be due to the accidental loading of 715 FW onto the 513. So now my 515 is stuck with 715 FW.



Wajo, any ideas?


Jim

Jim - My 513 has a 6/11 build date, model number E2S00UD and FW HD6A26972AHIE per skip123.


I tried both a CD and DVD with the proper *.mot file. The load progresses for about 2-3 minutes and just as it gets to 100% there is an error screen that comes up (I don't remember exactly what it says) and I eject the disc. There are 5 dots on the device's front screen when the loading stops and I never get the success code. I have tried it with the super FW 727V three times and also the other 727H FW update but get the same results with all. Please let me know if figure out the problem we both are having. In the meanwhile, the 513 works great.
 

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ordered my 513 today from wall mart, I love my 2160A and didn't want to miss out on the last one available ever. I was hoping for a 515 in last 1/4 2012 but i guess i missed the boat.

With all the 515's & 513's selling, I would think you'll soon have the chance to get a 515 refrub.


I got one from J&R and it's fine. I checked the time on the hard drive and was surprised to see 25 hours, that's after I had run the unit a week and a half! I firgure it had less than 5 when I got it. That's darn near new.
 

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What firmware is currently on your 513 and what has been your experience updating? I've had problems loading updated firmware to my new 513 but it may be due to the accidental loading of 715 FW onto the 513. So now my 515 is stuck with 715 FW.



Wajo, any ideas?
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Jim - My 513 has a 6/11 build date, model number E2S00UD and FW HD6A26972AHIE per skip123.


I tried both a CD and DVD with the proper *.mot file. The load progresses for about 2-3 minutes and just as it gets to 100% there is an error screen that comes up (I don't remember exactly what it says) and I eject the disc. There are 5 dots on the device's front screen when the loading stops and I never get the success code. I have tried it with the super FW 727V three times and also the other 727H FW update but get the same results with all. Please let me know if figure out the problem we both are having. In the meanwhile, the 513 works great.

This is a vexing problem in light of the many 513 users who have successfully updated to 727V, one just recently with an early-513 (May 2011 mfg with OEM 718 FW) who went directly to 727V.


I'm wondering if it has something to do with "some" units starting to read 727V and actually changing "something" that prevents even 727H from being loaded???


My original thought was that the 1st user update 727H should certainly be allowed since that FW ws built for early- and late-513's with OEM 718 and OEM 72A FW, respectively. That's why I'm stumped... for now!



Anyway, all I can offer now is to verify the process again: create another CD of the 727V .mot file (12,179KB) using the SEND command to the RecordNow app on Windows machines, using the "Data Disc" Project option in that app., and make sure you see the final "Closing" message after CD write.
 

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I'm wondering if it has something to do with only the early-513s with OEM 718 FW which starts to read 727V and actually changes "something" that prevents even 727H from being loaded???

I've successfully updated the firmware of my April 2010 513 with every version newer than the factory installed 718 up to 727V. I did not skip over 727H.
 

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I'm recording today's Metropolitan Opera broadcast , first time I've tried going from a stereo receiver tuner to magnavox 2160A ... seems to be ok. Wasn't sure if it needed the video cable plugged so I did it anyway, and it's just showing a black screen, no static, with audio recording in two channel stereo. Using LP speed for the copy, as it didnt sound much different than the SP setting and I'm really only doing this to time shift and salvage a sunny Saturday afternoon - the music can be heard and erased later. Reminds me of my old beta hifi days! (**unfortunately, the hardware seems to be following a similar path to oblivion!)


Funny how it never occurred to me to set things up this way, but I recently got some new speakers, and dug my old receiver out of mothballs. Now I have tv --> receiver so I can listen to video with earphones, and receiver to 2160, so I can record audio. Adventures in electronics 101. I rarely record audio anymore, but this seems to be handier than burning it to the computer using the internet radio feed (which requires more babysitting during the b'cast). I like the time-shifting, and timer recording aspect. Of course it will only play back on video equipment (if I burn to disc from the HDD) but for shifting and not archiving, it seems the best way to do it without actually BEING there while the over the air music is streaming live. I was going to pack this 'extra' machine away, but if this works out, I may leave it plugged in so I can capture occasional audio programs.
 

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You guys got me so concerned I went out and ordered a 513 today from wallmart, after initially not being able to get the page to even load. Haven't been following this thread closely for a while since my 2160 was working fine. I would appreciate if someone could post a link to the new firmware and instructions for the 513.
 

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You guys got me so concerned I went out and ordered a 513 today from wallmart, after initially not being able to get the page to even load. Haven't been following this thread closely for a while since my 2160 was working fine. I would appreciate if someone could post a link to the new firmware and instructions for the 513.
Here's the FW Update page.
 

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Jim - My 513 has a 6/11 build date, model number E2S00UD and FW HD6A26972AHIE per skip123.


I tried both a CD and DVD with the proper *.mot file. The load progresses for about 2-3 minutes and just as it gets to 100% there is an error screen that comes up (I don't remember exactly what it says) and I eject the disc. There are 5 dots on the device's front screen when the loading stops and I never get the success code. I have tried it with the super FW 727V three times and also the other 727H FW update but get the same results with all. Please let me know if figure out the problem we both are having. In the meanwhile, the 513 works great.

Well, this isn't exactly my experience. After inserting the disk (following skip 654) the disk loads, then the display says "File loading". After a period of time the disk ejects and the display states "Please insert disk", having done nothing to upload the FW. No error messages are stated.
 

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Well, this isn't exactly my experience. After inserting the disk (following skip 654) the disk loads, then the display says "File loading". After a period of time the disk ejects and the display states "Please insert disk", having done nothing to upload the FW. No error messages are stated.

If you have more than one .mot file on the disc the recorder is supposed to pause at the first screen and ask you to pick the firmware version you want to update instead of starting automatically. Have you tried it with two or more different firmware versions on the same disc?
 

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I'm recording today's Metropolitan Opera broadcast , first time I've tried going from a stereo receiver tuner to magnavox 2160A ... seems to be ok. Wasn't sure if it needed the video cable plugged so I did it anyway, and it's just showing a black screen, no static, with audio recording in two channel stereo. Using LP speed for the copy, as it didnt sound much different than the SP setting and I'm really only doing this to time shift and salvage a sunny Saturday afternoon - the music can be heard and erased later. Reminds me of my old beta hifi days! (**unfortunately, the hardware seems to be following a similar path to oblivion!)

I just recently discovered a Live365 channel on my Roku. I did something similar to record from my Roku to my Mag in SLP mode (6 hour, since the audio bitrate is not affected). Like you discovered, it was a lot easier than having to babysit the recording of the live365 stream from the computer. After a HSD to +RW, I took the disc to the computer and used DVD Decrypter to use stream processing to extract just the audio. The extracted audio is in ac3 format (with a VOB file extension), but any basic audio conversion program can encode it into mp3 or wma to reduce file size. You might have to rename the vob file to wav for the audio conversion utility to recognize it.
 

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If you have more than one .mot file on the disc the recorder is supposed to pause at the first screen and ask you to pick the firmware version you want to update instead of starting automatically. Have you tried it with two or more different firmware versions on the same disc?

Hi Ken,


I just tried it with 072A and 727V on the disk, and as you say, you are given a choice. Still, regardless of which I chose, there was no joy. Please keep the suggestions coming since sooner or later this mystery will be cracked.


Thanks,


Jim
 
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