Originally Posted by DigaDo /forum/post/16878019
Did you make sure that the DVD label faces up?
If the clock changes to the wrong time at midnight or noon you may want to manually set the clock to the correct time, turn Auto Clock Setting to "OFF" and turn Daylight Saving Time to "OFF."
Originally Posted by fallingwater /forum/post/16881305
So, just as a hypothetical, which would you choose: a refurbed 2160A with 90 Funai day warranty for $160 and a J & R Repair Master 2¾ yr. extension for $25 or a brand-new-with-no-box 2160A from an eBay seller for $190 with very likely no Funai warranty at all and a 3 yr. extended warranty from Squaretrade for $30. The eBay seller states that:
We have a 100% 7 day return/refund policy with this unit.
This item does have an A after the model number, but I have no clue what you are talking about with the J & R and the refurbished talk. This item is brand new. My husband did make the mistake in the listing saying we had hooked the item up. All items including the batteries are still in sealed containers, (player, remote and everything), that is why is was listed as brand new. It is not refurbished. The box was damaged by the retailer and it has never been "sold" to anyone but us. If you wish to cancel the transaction that is fine, just let me know.
Originally Posted by wajo /forum/post/16881384
The $160 units are from J&R and, so far, have all been 2160 originals. J&R also offers a 3-yr ext. warranty, according to one person who apparently called to order... I can't find mention of the ext. warr. on their web page.
Originally Posted by catnap1972 /forum/post/16881451
Link to the extended warranty:
Originally Posted by oldmanjoe /forum/post/16881608
Thanks for the reply. The DVDs were inserted correctly. Just got off the phone with support and they told me to buy a lens cleaner to see it that works; if it doesn't, then the unit is defective. I'm supposed to follow up with them.
The clock and everything else is working fine.
Originally Posted by fallingwater /forum/post/16881690
Does anyone have an opinion which is a better deal, a refurbed 'A' with $25 warranty or brand-new-boxless 'A' with $30 warranty? I'm inclined to go with my eBay seller if J & R's recorders are 'A's.
Originally Posted by DigaDo /forum/post/16864125
The unit is an original 2160 version manufactured in December 2008 . . . The original "Warranty Void If Seal Is Damaged" tape had been slit . . .
The SKIP 0-7-9 utility reported 296 power on hours for the hard drive . . .
Two back-to-back timer programs from different clear QAM channels were programmed for hard drive recording . . . These titles, totalling 2349 MB in size, were then high-speed dubbed to a Maxell 16x DVD-R (ProdiscS05). The dub/writing to disc process was clocked at about ten minutes. Finalizing was clocked at about three minutes.
Three LP titles of 1:42:09, 1:17:42 and 15:06 duration were high-speed dubbed to a Taiyo Yuden 8x DVD-R (TYG02) with my original 2160 manufactured in August 2008. That DVD was placed in the newly-arrived 2160, a timer program was scheduled and the DVD was finalized in about three minutes.
Following these disc operations the SKIP 3-2-1 utility reported this data:
TIME DVD-WR: 0:10
TIME DVD-RD: 1:50
TIME CD: 0:00
So far, the functionality of this 2160 appears as normal.
Originally Posted by wajo /forum/post/16881743
Neither ('A') is as good as the refurb'd ORIGINAL 2160's from J&R for $159.99 , with a 3-yr ext. warranty for $25 .
All reports so far, about 6 people, are that J&R units are original 2160's, with mfg dates of May 2008, Aug 2008, Sep 2008 and I think one Dec 2008.
Originally Posted by fallingwater /forum/post/16881781
I totally agree, but won't know for sure which model I'll be getting until it arrives next Weds.That's why, although hopeful, I pose my question as theoretical.
Originally Posted by catnap1972 /forum/post/16881822
So far has anyone ended up with an 'A' model from J&R?
Originally Posted by wajo /forum/post/16881715
I might have missed it, but have you tried a SKIP 079 Self-Check, which checks comm. etc. between HDD/DVD and other circuits.
Here's the procedure ... just don't press OK after the quick self-check, just turn unit off with power button.
Originally Posted by oldmanjoe /forum/post/16882066
Thanks wajo. I ran it and got this problem: DVD Connect Status-Cable Error. All else works great, so I would think it is internal. Any thoughts before I re-do all my connections?
Originally Posted by wajo /forum/post/16882144
Yes, if you read the Self-Check intro in the help file on Skip 079 , there is a link to someone who also had a DVD drive he thought was defective cuz of errors he had been seeing for more than 5 months.
That seems like a good possibility in your case, but opening the case carries some risk for voiding the warranty... unfortunately, I can't make that call for you, but the odds of a disconnected or loose cable seem high in your case.
Originally Posted by wajo /forum/post/16881889
Nope. In fact, they seem to have a batch of the originals that were mfg on the usual date these DVDRs are released... May 2008. They have the same FW as all other originals.
Until people started getting these May 2008 units, our first reported 2160 original was mfg in Aug 2008.
Originally Posted by DigaDo /forum/post/16882163
Earlier I ordered a second reburbished 2160 and warranties for both machines.
Originally Posted by oldmanjoe /forum/post/16882421
Without going through all the posts, may I assume that all have been pleased with the refurbished units?
Originally Posted by fallingwater /forum/post/16881690
Does anyone have an opinion which is a better deal, a refurbed 'A' with $25 warranty or brand-new-boxless 'A' with $30 warranty? I'm inclined to go with my eBay seller if J & R's recorders are 'A's...