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I figured it out. I have a separate amp for my surround speakers and the power cord came loose in the middle of me moving my equipment rack in and out. I do have a couple of other questions. Cable and Netflix are the same volume but when I play a blue ray on my PS3 the volume is lower. When my Outlaw 990 was in the system all my sources were the same volume. Also when playing blue rays the display reads multi channel in 7.1. Shouldn't it say Dolby digital or DTS etc. thx again.
1. There is a setting (p. 209 Owner's manual) that can be used to normalize the volume levels of your sources (if the difference bothers you).
2. The PS3 is decoding the DD/DTS to PCM 7.1. Set it to "bitstream" so the DD/DTS passes untouched and then the AVP can decode it.
 

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Consider turning the fans around such that the warm air is pulled "away" from the top of the AVP.



That would have been my preference. However I took the back panel off of this particular cabinet to gain access for the wiring. So I would not be able to create a closed system where I could draw the air out over the unit from the back. So the next best thing was to blow air over the unit from the back. It seems to work.
 

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It cost me about $130 to ship my amp back to ATI using their rates recently. It cost about $75 a couple years ago to ship it to me initially if I remember correct.
Well a AV8805 should be no where near that price to ship. Should be $75 tops with no discount. Might want to ask your dealer if he will ship it for you so you get a better rate if you are getting $130 ;)
 

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Shipped out my Fathom today. Here's hoping Brown is gentle with her.
 
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Tried to fool PreAmp and use Zone 2 to add a 2nd set of front speakers without going through assigning an output for an A B setup. Using Zone 2 didn't work because there is a delayed audio signal the comes out of it. I can play with lip sync setting and get it close but not dead on. The manual is not really clear on setting up the A B configuration for the front. I t looks like I'd have to change the speaker configuration from 13.2 to 11.2 if I am understanding correctly. Anyone else use the A B configuration yet? If so what steps did you take?
 

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Tried to fool PreAmp and use Zone 2 to add a 2nd set of front speakers without going through assigning an output for an A B setup. Using Zone 2 didn't work because there is a delayed audio signal the comes out of it. I can play with lip sync setting and get it close but not dead on. The manual is not really clear on setting up the A B configuration for the front. It looks like I'd have to change the speaker configuration from 13.2 to 11.2 if I am understanding correctly. Anyone else use the A B configuration yet? If so what steps did you take?
Correct. A maximum of 13 channels can be processed in the main zone ... 11.2 + 2 (Front B) = 13.
 

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Hello,

What is the deal with this HEOS on the Marantz. I had my Bose Mini SoundLink playing via my iPad in my bedroom and I turned on my tv in my living using the TV Audio in Auro 3D and next thing I know there is a pause and bam the music playing in my bedroom all of a sudden the music blares over my speakers and the Marantz switches to HEOS..I had to turn it down in a hurry..I'm concerned if there would be any damage to my speakers cause of the sudden spike and the HEOS all of a sudden kicking in when it shouldnt have needed too..is it because HEOS is connected to my network and my Bose SoundLink is overridden by the bluetooth of the HEOS? Very annoying to say the least. So basically I cannot have two systems running at the same time? One on bluetooth in my bedroom and the other playing just audio through my speakers from another input or else the HEOS will kick in? Thoughts anyone? Is there a way to prevent this from happening? And yes I know make sure you turn off the bluetooth on the Ipad..is that the only solution..what if I want to play my bluetooth in the bedroom and have the Marantz play out in my living say I have a guest watching tv and I want to listen to music in another room using my bluetooth speaker? My guest will jump right of their seat all of a sudden. Can this spike potentially do any damage to speakers? Thanks all. Appreciate any thoughts.

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Audyssey and Bass Management

If I switch the Audyssey setting to Front L/R By-pass does that also by-pass bass management for the FL/FR speakers? I have often wondered just how interconnected those two facilities, Audyssey and Bass Management, are.


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If I switch the Audyssey setting to Front L/R By-pass does that also by-pass bass management for the FL/FR speakers? I have often wondered just how interconnected those two facilities, Audyssey and Bass Management, are.


Any help appreciated.
Speaker size (large / small) and crossover settings are independent from Audyssey, even though there are some inter-dependencies in what you should and should not do in regards to adjusting crossover frequencies after running an Audyssey calibration. If my memory is correct, it's OK to adjust the crossover to a higher frequency after a calibration, but it's not OK to adjust it to a lower frequency after a calibration because Audyssey wouldn't have made adjustments for frequencies below the crossover point that was used for the calibration.


You should be able to cycle through the 4 choices for Audyssey (Reference, L/R Bypass, Flat, and Off) at will without having any effect on your bass management settings.
 

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If I switch the Audyssey setting to Front L/R By-pass does that also by-pass bass management for the FL/FR speakers? I have often wondered just how interconnected those two facilities, Audyssey and Bass Management, are.
That's a good question. Gsr's response seems correct to me as well however according to the manual re. Front L/R bypass:

"Selects the reference setting, but bypasses MultEQ® XT32 on the front left and right speakers"

and MultEQ XT32 reference is defined as:

"MultEQ® XT32 compensates for both time and frequency characteristics of the listening area based on Audyssey® Setup measurement results. Selection is done from three types of compensation curves. We recommend the “Reference” setting. Reference(Default):Selects the default calibrated setting with a slight roll off at high frequencies, which is optimized for movies."

So by a strict interpretation of what it says "distance correction", time, is neutralized. I suspect this is not actually true for incoming digital sources however this may be accurate for incoming analog sources.
 
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That's a good question. Gsr's response seems correct to me as well however according to the manual re. Front L/R bypass:

"Selects the reference setting, but bypasses MultEQ® XT32 on the front left and right speakers"

and MultEQ XT32 reference is defined as:

"MultEQ® XT32 compensates for both time and frequency characteristics of the listening area based on Audyssey® Setup measurement results. Selection is done from three types of compensation curves. We recommend the “Reference” setting. Reference(Default):Selects the default calibrated setting with a slight roll off at high frequencies, which is optimized for movies."

So by a strict interpretation of what it says "distance correction", time, is neutralized. I suspect this is not actually true for incoming digital sources however this may be accurate for incoming analog sources.
The only difference between the Reference and L/R Bypass options is whether the front left & right speakers are using the Audyssey calibration. The bass management settings (distance, size, and crossover frequency) are not affected by switching between the Audyssey choices. When the Audyssey app has been used to modify the calibration curve, my understanding is that the Reference and L/R Bypass options use the user modified curve while Flat does not.


What happens with incoming analog sources will depend on the surround mode you've selected. So if you choose Direct, for example, that will disable some or all of the bass management features, but if you stick with the other modes, distance, size, and crossover settings will still apply. Further, if you have Audyssey set to L/R Bypass and then choose Direct for your surround/music mode, that should still disable Audyssey just as it would if you had Audyssey set to Reference or Flat.
 

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Speaking of Audyssey, when I get my sub back from the shop will I have to rerun it? I’m guessing not because nothing has really changed. But she’s a fickle beast.
 

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What happens with incoming analog sources will depend on the surround mode you've selected. So if you choose Direct, for example, that will disable some or all of the bass management features, but if you stick with the other modes, distance, size, and crossover settings will still apply.
My testing of an AV7005 years ago found this not to be the case. Using Direct or Pure Direct for an incoming 2ch stereo PCM source neutralized distance correction for analog source inputs but oddly maintains it for the three digital ins: optical, coax digital, and HDMI. My unit only had MultEQXT, not XT32, however when forum member krabapple tried the same test on his Denon XT32 AVR he found it worked that way too.

I wrote Audyssey/Zendesk (Chris Kyriakakis usually) about this inconsistency and got the standard response, paraphrased: "We just measure stuff. The manufacturer is the one that makes the decisions of what to do with it."
 

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Speaking of Audyssey, when I get my sub back from the shop will I have to rerun it? I’m guessing not because nothing has really changed. But she’s a fickle beast.
If in the same position and same gain /level etc.. you shouldn't but and I mean but the sub may not be the same after the repair and therefore to settle that little nagging wabo that will bother you till no end!:D So yeah if it were me I'd do another calibration;)
 

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My testing of an AV7005 years ago found this not to be the case. Using Direct or Pure Direct for an incoming 2ch stereo PCM source neutralized distance correction for analog source inputs but oddly maintains it for the three digital ins: optical, coax digital, and HDMI. My unit only had MultEQXT, not XT32, however when forum member krabapple tried the same test on his Denon XT32 AVR he found it worked that way too.
First of all, there's no such thing as a PCM analog source. PCM is a digital encoding (as is DSD), analog by definition isn't digital.



Second, I said that what happens for analog inputs is that some or all of the distance, size, and crossover selections are disabled when Direct / Pure Direct is selected which agrees with your findings, so I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me. I made no mention of what happens to digital inputs.


The bottom line is that the manufacturers make it extremely difficult to determine what actually happens when you use the various combinations of input types, surround modes, and Audyssey settings. It's obviously a reasonably complicated set of rules, but they should have been able to figure out how to clearly document how this all works by now. Instead, there's a ton of confusion about how it actually works.



I wrote Audyssey/Zendesk (Chris Kyriakakis usually) about this inconsistency and got the standard response, paraphrased: "We just measure stuff. The manufacturer is the one that makes the decisions of what to do with it."
That's correct - what is done with analog inputs isn't something Audyssey, the company, controls.
 

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If in the same position and same gain /level etc.. you shouldn't but and I mean but the sub may not be the same after the repair and therefore to settle that little nagging wabo that will bother you till no end!:D So yeah if it were me I'd do another calibration;)
Agreed, it probably makes sense to do a new calibration in case the gain level changed or the state of the amp was bad enough to have an effect on the calibration when you (@Waboman) ran it previously.
 

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First of all, there's no such thing as a PCM analog source. PCM is a digital encoding (as is DSD), analog by definition isn't digital.
I discussed a matter which involved both analog and digital inputs so I stand by my decision to mention the source material was encoded in PCM:

Using Direct or Pure Direct for an incoming 2ch stereo PCM source neutralized distance correction for analog source inputs but oddly maintains it for the three digital ins: optical, coax digital, and HDMI.
Mentioning the source signal was encoded in PCM is pertinent to the full sentence because digital inputs were part of the discussion. Incoming 2ch Dolby Digital 2.0 material might have behaved differently, for example, so I included the form the digital information was encoded in.
 

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What happens with incoming analog sources will depend on the surround mode you've selected. So if you choose Direct, for example, that will disable some or all of the bass management features, but if you stick with the other modes, distance, size, and crossover settings will still apply.
I misread this. My mistake, sorry.:eek:
 
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That's correct - what is done with analog inputs isn't something Audyssey, the company, controls.
What annoyed me was what was happening with the digital inputs actually.

My measurement mic found a 3 inch difference in the FL and FR speakers. The manual implied I'd have the correction my prepro applied neutralized by selecting Pure Direct and that was not the case for digital inputs getting PCM from my disc player. I needed the L and R to be same so when I sent my preamp level signal to an outboard headphone amp or recording device I'd have the two channels in correct phase. Having a button labelled "Pure Direct" which couldn't actually accomplish that with a quick, single button selection for digital inputs was annoying.
 
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