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Marantz VP11S NOw HDMI 1.3.

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AVSRichard

Discussion Starter · May 11, 2007

Got this in my email inbox this morning.

Marantz introduces today an upgraded version of our groundbreaking VP-11S1 High-Definition DLP® front projector featuring HDMI 1.3 inputs with Deep Color capability.

With HDMI 1.3 Deep Color capability and 12 bit color depth, the upgraded VP-11S1 is capable of displaying an astonishing 68 Billion colors!

Their anamorphic lens solution is on the way as well.

Richard

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nachin

· #2 · May 11, 2007

Dear,

Have Marantz an upgrade available for us, previous owners?

Regards.

Nacho.

uncle eric

· #3 · May 11, 2007

Having spoken to Marantz UK this afternoon they have confirmed they will instigate a free upgrade for the VP-11S11 (sold in the UK) to HDMI 1.3 with Deep Color ASAP.

Not sure what Marantz Europe or USA are doing.

dazzerxxx

· #4 · May 11, 2007

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Originally Posted by AVSRichard /forum/post/0

Got this in my email inbox this morning.

Marantz introduces today an upgraded version of our groundbreaking VP-11S1 High-Definition DLP® front projector featuring HDMI 1.3 inputs with Deep Color capability.

With HDMI 1.3 Deep Color capability and 12 bit color depth, the upgraded VP-11S1 is capable of displaying an astonishing 68 Billion colors!

Their anamorphic lens solution is on the way as well.

Richard

I thought a single chip DLP was limited to displaying 16.7m colours ??

"The white light generated by the lamp in a DLP® projection system passes through a red, green and blue color filter as it travels to the surface of the DLP® chip. After passing through this filter, the colored light then falls sequentially onto the DLP® chip to create an image with up to 16.7 million colors. "

http://focus.ti.com/docs/solution/fo...print/360.html

Dazzer

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AVSRichard

Discussion Starter · #5 · May 11, 2007

No info yet on upgrade path for people in the U.S.

Richard

Jason Yeo

· #6 · May 11, 2007

Indeed the new spec has hdmi1.3, http://us.marantz.com/Products/497.asp , but I am more hoping for a newer model with lower fan noise and improved contrast .

peterpioli

· #7 · May 12, 2007

With all the great competing projectors for under 10k, is Marantz selling any VP11S projectors at the price of 20k?

AVSRichard

Discussion Starter · #8 · May 12, 2007

Yes they are actually. And a lot of them. You should check one out if you can jsut to see how it compares against the other 1080p projectors you've seen.

Richard

Jason Yeo

· #9 · May 12, 2007

Any words from Marantz if there is a new model this year?

Spizz

· #10 · May 12, 2007

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Originally Posted by Jason Yeo /forum/post/0

Indeed the new spec has hdmi1.3, http://us.marantz.com/Products/497.asp , but I am more hoping for a newer model with lower fan noise and improved contrast .

Yes a model with lower fan noise and improved contrast would be ideal.

OzzieP

· #11 · May 12, 2007

WOW I agree with peterpioli.

I am surprised that they even sell these units at 20K specially after you see it in person and compare it to those 1080P 3 CHIPPERS out there for well under 10K.

I am glad to see that they are making refinements to the PJ, a 1.3 HDMI will be great when more sources become availiable, and anamorphic lens solution would be a major plus.

Now if a 1 chip DLP can actually display 68 Billion colors with a spinning colour wheel is the part that I question also. My understanding is 3 seperate chips are needed for this.

Alan Gouger

· #12 · May 12, 2007

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Originally Posted by uncle eric /forum/post/0

Having spoken to Marantz UK this afternoon they have confirmed they will instigate a free upgrade for the VP-11S11 (sold in the UK) to HDMI 1.3 with Deep Color ASAP.

Not sure what Marantz Europe or USA are doing.

Way to go!

peterpioli

· #13 · May 12, 2007

AVSRichard

I've seen the VP11S and it is probably the nicest looking projector I've seen overall, BUT it's not more-than twice as good as many under 10k. For Marantz to continue asking 20k for a projector, they had better make big improvements in their next generation VP11S replacement if they want to stay competitive.

QQQ

· #14 · May 12, 2007

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Originally Posted by peterpioli /forum/post/0

AVSRichard

I've seen the VP11S and it is probably the nicest looking projector I've seen overall, BUT it's not more-than twice as good as many under 10k.

Of course it's not, nor is a JCR RS1 for 6K six times better than a 1280 x 720 projector. It's a fair question to ask if the product is competitive in the marketplace but to state it's not twice as good as a 10K PJ is silly - people don't buy more expensive products expecting that the performance increase will be directly proportional to the price difference.

OzzieP

· #15 · May 12, 2007

"people don't buy more expensive products expecting that the performance increase will be directly proportional to the price difference."

I agree, but at least a performance difference should be there. Marantz has lost it's edge in my opinion, and seems to be targeting more of a niche market like Runco. 16 million colors on a single chip is a bit short when compared to 68 billions colors on a three chipper. Granted this is not the only performance that is measured but I think its an important one. In my opinion they are out of the league as far as a competitive price in a projector, but as long as someone is willing to pay 20K for something that they think is a little bit better more power to them.

"Nice clothes emperor"

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uncle eric

· #16 · May 12, 2007

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Originally Posted by Oswald Pascual /forum/post/0

16 million colors on a single chip is a bit short when compared to 68 billions colors on a three chipper.

Assuming the three chipper can actually get the colors right

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QQQ

· #17 · May 12, 2007

I hope you guys aren't taking this 68 billion color number seriously.

Wendell R. Breland

· #18 · May 13, 2007

For consumer use, who has access to sources with more than 8 4:2:0?

dazzerxxx

· #19 · May 13, 2007

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Originally Posted by Oswald Pascual /forum/post/0

16 million colors on a single chip is a bit short when compared to 68 billions colors on a three chipper.

"Nice clothes emperor"

I'm genuinely trying to understand if there is a limitation on the number of colors single chip DLP tech can dipslay. TI indicate that it's 16.7m for single chip and much more for three chip (see below). Is this incorrect and can adding HDMI 1.3 really allow a single chip DLP PJ to now display billions of colors ? If so how does it do that ?

"Some DLP® projection systems including DLP Cinema® include a three-chip architecture which is capable of producing up to 35 trillion colors"

"The white light generated by the lamp in a DLP® projection system passes through a red, green and blue color filter as it travels to the surface of the DLP® chip. After passing through this filter, the colored light then falls sequentially onto the DLP® chip to create an image with up to 16.7 million colors"

http://focus.ti.com/docs/solution/fo...print/360.html

Dazzer

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Dan Miller

· #20 · May 15, 2007

It has to do with the driver ASIC, the last stage before the DMD. Older versions were 8 bit while the 3-chip D-Cinema application was 14. We are at twelve now.

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