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This program has been listed for the last couple days on the Discovery front page (if you click the HD link on the front page it changes to this content). I don't see it listed on today's guide, and the link to it accessible from the Discovery HD Theater link is broken. Anyone know if/when it's actually airing?


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This program isn't listed for the 24th in HDTV magazine.
 

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Yeah...that's the thing. It's not listed in my guide. It's not listed at Titan TV. It's not listed anywhere that I can see - but it's been advertised clearly for 1/24 on Discovery for a few days.


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Ya, I see what you mean. I would hazard a guess that they pulled it/rescheduled it and forgot to remove the Ad from the website.


I'll be looking forward to it...when it actually airs.
 

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I was just watching DSCHD, and between shows at 5pm cst, I saw some little blurb of it. It was called 'Mars HD: Special Report.' It just showed some hi-res pictures while it talked about it's landing (No mention of it's latest problems) and that was it! about 2-3min at max. I'm guessing that was a promo for the real show.
 

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Since this mission has gone in the toilet (like almost every other NASA mission these days) I assume it was pulled because NASA doesn't want to talk about another failed mission! Maybe if they ever get Spirit going again but as of now it is barely alive.


I think it's quite laughable that Bush is touting NASA going to Mars when they can't even get a robotic machine to operate correctly there! Even the Moon is out of reach for the current NASA as they have become WAY TOO dependant on computers and less on practical engineering like the NASA of the 60's (who could do much more with much less).
 

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Don't count them out yet. Remember there is an identical rover landing tonight (12:05 Sunday ET); now, if that also has problems, they perhaps there is a bigger issue. If NASA has a larger problem, it's no budget, which has been cut for years.


In any event, back on topic, the show could have been a great showing of all the HD pix taken so far, which most of us haven't had a chance to see *in* HD.
 

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Since this mission has gone in the toilet (like almost every other NASA mission these days).....
Wrong again.
 

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Wrong again.
Let's see they lost ALL contact with Spirit for a while, then they got a small signal from it. Now they say they MAY be able to do some things in a few weeks! In my mind that is a mission that is failing and currently in the toilet!


NASA is a organization that has become a bloated system of people who don't really have the abilities that are truly needed for the tasks at hand. They have through malfeasance killed two shuttle crews (no they were not accidents but in fact decisions made against evidence of safety problems) and have screwed up numerous mission to Mars and other places as well! NASA need a complete and total overhaul and some far more competent people need to be put in key positions to avoid these constant screwups!
 

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You can talk when you get your PhD in rocket science.
Hey I am a taxpayer and I have EVERY right to rag on people whose salary I pay to perform a job and do it correctly! You don't need to be a "rocket scientist" to realize NASA is currently being run into the ground with one failure after another! Apparently the "rocket scientist" can't even figure out whether they are doing metric or imperial measurements, sans the mission a couple years ago that was calculated with imperial measurements but programmed the vehicle with metric measurements and it ended up slamming into the surface of Mars because of it!


These NASA scientists are merely a shell of the NASA scientist who made the missions to the moon and unless something is drastically done soon, these scientists are going to continue to kill our brave Astronauts with their incompetence!


Maybe you think the NASA program is being run correctly but I can not forgive malfeasance on two occasions that has caused the deaths of our Astronauts! It's one thing to just make mistakes it's a whole other thing to know the facts and continue on with a dangerous mission only to see many deaths occur because of it!
 

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I certainly will make no excuses for the mistakes and errors in judgment made by NASA scientists over the years.


But it is entirely arrogant and presumptuous of you to think that you really know what goes on inside NASA, or for you to make blanket statements about the character and ability of current NASA scientists compared to those of earlier generations.
 

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Now FrankS, if YOU were leading the Mars experiments, I'd certainly believe it would be a failure and "in the toilet" right now. These guys aren't giving up.


Back on topic, I'd love to see this Mars HD program, someone keep us updated.
 

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This program has been listed for the last couple days on the Discovery front page (if you click the HD link on the front page it changes to this content). I don't see it listed on today's guide, and the link to it accessible from the Discovery HD Theater link is broken. Anyone know if/when it's actually airing?
Jumped around the Discovery site, which has bulleted URLs promising Mars coverage in HD updates, weekly programs, etc., but surfing the site seems to run into dead ends. Even more flaky then their repeated screw ups promising an HD program on advanced aviation (a recent thead here). -- John
 

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Mars is looking quite appealing this morning with the recovery of Spirit and the magnificent landing and pictures from Opportunity. FrankS should be chewing a little crow today. Never give up on these guys they are incredible engineers!
 

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I certainly will make no excuses for the mistakes and errors in judgment made by NASA scientists over the years.


But it is entirely arrogant and presumptuous of you to think that you really know what goes on inside NASA, or for you to make blanket statements about the character and ability of current NASA scientists compared to those of earlier generations.
I make NO presumptions as to the mistakes being made by NASA these days! NASA itself has admitted the screw ups themselves including launching the Challenger Space Shuttle when it was to cold (and knowing the manufacturers warning against a launch at low temps) thus causing the deaths of the crew, not using the tools available (air force satellites etc.) to inspect the Columbia Space Shuttle to see if there was damage from the impact on takeoff thus causing the deaths of the crew (they also admitted they could have gotten another shuttle up to rescue the crew if they identified a damaged Columbia), using the wrong measurements for the Mars mission a while back that slammed into the Mars, several other missions to Mars that failed in the late 90's early 2000's.


If people's excuses for NASA's failures is simply budget cutbacks then I say if they didn;t have the funds to do these missions correctly they should NOT have done them at all!


I want NASA to succeed as much as anyone but for people to excuse the screw ups who currently are at NASA is doing nothing but dooming NASA to failure since nothing will get done without an outcry from the public against those who are constantly messing up the NASA projects!
 

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Mars is looking quite appealing this morning with the recovery of Spirit and the magnificent landing and pictures from Opportunity. FrankS should be chewing a little crow today.
Let's clarify your statement. It should be PARTIAL recovery of Spirit, not recovery of Spirit.
 

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Never give up on these guys they are incredible engineers! [/b]

The best the world has ever seen.
 

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Now FrankS, if YOU were leading the Mars experiments, I'd certainly believe it would be a failure and "in the toilet" right now. These guys aren't giving up.
I don't presume to be an expert on Astroscience BUT I do know a failure when I see one and the two Shuttle disasters and several Mars missions were total failures and in the case of the shuttles NEVER should have happened!.


I truly hope NASA can fully recover Spirit and start having one successful mission after another but I also have noticed that there has not been any major change in the way NASA conducts itself so it doesn't look promising (IMHO) that NASA can overcome these failures unless major changes occur.
 
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