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Maybe you shouldn't trade in that UTV for a Tivo 'just quite yet'...
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it seems to me that with all this recent advertising for tivo alot more people are becoming aware of what exactly a pvr does. and in my conversations with the previously uneducated they all are surprised to find that this amazing machine that i own, has been around so long and has even been dis-continued.and then i tell them that they sold for $49 as close outs from rs they can't believe it. all want one or two but you can imagine what my answer is. some, even after visiting cc or bb and having the whole tivo spiel given to them, still want an utv. i can't say i disagree with them. the utv is still a state of the art pvr in my opinion. discounting the hd factor. and as network said murdock should be brought up to speed about utv's. he may want to buy.
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I wouldn't say UTV is "state of the art" but it is close to rock solid and I like it.
If it were state of the art, the USB port would work (especially handy for the WebTV part). They also should look into correcting the problem of tuner failure. But it's still the best non-HDTV unit out there (with apologies to Tivo lovers).
| Originally posted by swwagner1 it seems to me that with all this recent advertising for tivo alot more people are becoming aware of what exactly a pvr does. and in my conversations with the previously uneducated they all are surprised to find that this amazing machine that i own, has been around so long and has even been dis-continued.and then i tell them that they sold for $49 as close outs from rs they can't believe it. all want one or two but you can imagine what my answer is. some, even after visiting cc or bb and having the whole tivo spiel given to them, still want an utv. i can't say i disagree with them. the utv is still a state of the art pvr in my opinion. discounting the hd factor. and as network said murdock should be brought up to speed about utv's. he may want to buy. |
If it were state of the art, the USB port would work (especially handy for the WebTV part). They also should look into correcting the problem of tuner failure. But it's still the best non-HDTV unit out there (with apologies to Tivo lovers).
I've had or played with everything from Direct Tivo, Replay TV, various Computer based Recording software programs, and UTV. UTV is by far the best, I'm not a Microsoft fan IN ANY WAY! But UTV is by far the best interface and works more reliably than any of the others. I'd kill to have a few more of the units to replace one of my failing ones. I was able to get a Direct Tivo from DirecTV for $114 bucks but it's no where as easy to use and friendly (yes I just used the term friendly to describe a MS Product) but it's true. Recording with one button from the guide is priceless.
Does it need improving? Sure, but until someone really hacks the drive and re-writes the OS and feature set (I'm sure that day will come) it's still got the best bang for the buck.
Now I know it's the ******* child and will probably be dropped someday soon, but for as long as my hard drives spin, my remote still controls, I'll be a UTV user!
Does it need improving? Sure, but until someone really hacks the drive and re-writes the OS and feature set (I'm sure that day will come) it's still got the best bang for the buck.
Now I know it's the ******* child and will probably be dropped someday soon, but for as long as my hard drives spin, my remote still controls, I'll be a UTV user!
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I would not call this a nonsense rumor, as mentioned above News Corp already has a Sat/DVR product so why pay Tivo when you have your own?
| Originally posted by austinsho One more nonsense rumor by those bottom feeders who manipulate the stock market. Take your money to Vegas instead...the odds are better. |
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I think it would be very poor business to drop support of the DirecTiVo. While D* may eventually move away from it as the PVR of choice, I'm sure all those TiVos out there will be in no danger of going dark, especially with a brand new HD unit on the horizon. Look at UTV. There is no UTV being manufactured, yet it still continues. It's not like TiVo is ceasing production of units of any type. Will D* eventually stop offering TiVo over their own unit? I can see potential for that, but I think it's silly for them to do that. In a consumer world. Brand recognition is EVERYTHING. When most people think of satellite TV, the think of DirecTV first. When they think of PVRs, it's TiVo. Combine those, and you've got a huge amount of familiarity, there.
Honestly, we don't know what will happen. For all we know, we may have it backwards. The News Corp PVR may actually be phased out and replaced by TiVos. I don't think there is any danger of buying a D*TiVo at this point. It will probably cease to work or be replaced by completely new technology by the time D* decides stop supporting it.
| Originally posted by wick77 I would not call this a nonsense rumor, as mentioned above News Corp already has a Sat/DVR product so why pay Tivo when you have your own? |
Honestly, we don't know what will happen. For all we know, we may have it backwards. The News Corp PVR may actually be phased out and replaced by TiVos. I don't think there is any danger of buying a D*TiVo at this point. It will probably cease to work or be replaced by completely new technology by the time D* decides stop supporting it.
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I have owned both and I just don't see how anyone can say the UTV interface is better than the DTV PVR with Tivo. While I would agree with the rock solid statement, I can best describe the UTV interface as klunky and is a major reason why I switched. In fact, the wife wouldn't even attempt to program our UTV's herself. She just said I want to record yadda yadda and I had to punch the buttons.
I'm sorry, but I just don't see how it can get any easier to record on a UTV. My wife scrolls through the guide, and if she wants to record one show, she hits the RECORD button on the remote. She also knows she can hit that same button twice to record a series.
One-click recording from the guide.....Geez, how could it be better ??
One-click recording from the guide.....Geez, how could it be better ??
Ok, how can we even begin to take a Bengals fan seriously! 
I am a Bears fan so it is "almost" as bad for me (worse this year). I am suprised by your wife's problem handling UTV. The guide works like any other, then just click record. She couldn't handle that?
I am a Bears fan so it is "almost" as bad for me (worse this year). I am suprised by your wife's problem handling UTV. The guide works like any other, then just click record. She couldn't handle that?
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I am speaking of the autorecord feature. She hated the fact that it kept recording the same episodes over and over. Me too.
| Originally posted by kmp14 Ok, how can we even begin to take a Bengals fan seriously! I am a Bears fan so it is "almost" as bad for me (worse this year). I am suprised by your wife's problem handling UTV. The guide works like any other, then just click record. She couldn't handle that? |
The latest on the directv/tivo relationship (I tried to include the url links but I'm too new to be allowed this privilege):
TiVo's Good News
By Rex Moore (TMF Orangeblood)
October 8, 2003
TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO) investors are feeling much better today, as the company's fuzzy future with satellite operator DirecTV comes into sharper focus.
The stock was hammered a couple of weeks ago when rumors circulated that News Corp. (NYSE: NWS) might drop the TiVo licensing agreement once it completes its takeover of DirecTV parent Hughes Electronics (NYSE: GMH). The thinking was News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch might want to promote his own BSkyB service's competing digital video recorder. With about half of TiVo's 900,000 subscribers coming from DirecTV, such a move could be devastating._
But today brought new optimism. The company announced a new promotional partnership with the Fox (NYSE: FOX) network, which is 85%-owned by News Corp._More importantly,_DirecTV Chairman and CEO Eddy Hartenstein will join TiVo's board of directors._
"These announcements appear not just to spread the TiVo brand around more, but they certainly don't point to any Murdoch dislike, or lack of respect, for TiVo or its brand," says Fool co-founder David Gardner, who selected the stock for Motley Fool Stock Advisor.
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Investors are agreeing today, sending shares up about 15%.
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BTW, just bought a directivo to replace a utv that had a bad tuner. I'm learning the tivo but, so far, I miss the utv. Hopefully the utv interface/software will show up in a future package.
TiVo's Good News
By Rex Moore (TMF Orangeblood)
October 8, 2003
TiVo (Nasdaq: TIVO) investors are feeling much better today, as the company's fuzzy future with satellite operator DirecTV comes into sharper focus.
The stock was hammered a couple of weeks ago when rumors circulated that News Corp. (NYSE: NWS) might drop the TiVo licensing agreement once it completes its takeover of DirecTV parent Hughes Electronics (NYSE: GMH). The thinking was News Corp. Chairman Rupert Murdoch might want to promote his own BSkyB service's competing digital video recorder. With about half of TiVo's 900,000 subscribers coming from DirecTV, such a move could be devastating._
But today brought new optimism. The company announced a new promotional partnership with the Fox (NYSE: FOX) network, which is 85%-owned by News Corp._More importantly,_DirecTV Chairman and CEO Eddy Hartenstein will join TiVo's board of directors._
"These announcements appear not just to spread the TiVo brand around more, but they certainly don't point to any Murdoch dislike, or lack of respect, for TiVo or its brand," says Fool co-founder David Gardner, who selected the stock for Motley Fool Stock Advisor.
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Investors are agreeing today, sending shares up about 15%.
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BTW, just bought a directivo to replace a utv that had a bad tuner. I'm learning the tivo but, so far, I miss the utv. Hopefully the utv interface/software will show up in a future package.
we had house guests for a few weeks this past month and they became familiar with the utv. being tivo owners they were initially displeased with the functionality of the utv, but as time went on they started to comment about the learning curve associated with the utv interface. before the 2nd week was up he was asking me to assist him in aquiring one for their bedroom at home. needless to say i was unable to satisify this request and they departed sans utv. i have to date received 3 e-mails from them each one reitterating the request to find them an utv, even to the point of an offer to replace one of my utv's with a trade or new purchase of a tivo. i think this speaks for itself. and i am still not surprised.
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All bought and paid for, except for numbers 2-6 that came free with the purchase of the DVD player (which is why I own "Stepmom" and "Lost in Space" - not movies I would have bought ordinarilly, or at least not among my first purchases) and 1 that came with my computer (number 1).
Of course my collection is nothing compared to some of the people on the DVD software forum. One member there has over 5000 DVDs. Now, that's devotion to a format!
| Originally posted by restart88 Ok how many of those did you actually buy? Maybe we should call the RIAA to come check out your music files?? |
Of course my collection is nothing compared to some of the people on the DVD software forum. One member there has over 5000 DVDs. Now, that's devotion to a format!
Well mabe this site is not done yet!
I must tell yea, the UTV still ROCKS!
I have been watching the new tech products and with the PSX coming out I have been wondering if I should start to look for a new unit but really what will I get, just a DVD recorder and even though I would like that a lot I can't see spending all that money for something I already have with the UTV. The only weakness the UTV has is it's small hard drive and mabe a place for dsl/cable to hook up and that's it. When I upgraded that to 120 gb it is much better. Ever more would really rule, especially since the new HD tv will require so much more to record. I would never go back to not having something, but with the picture in a picture it is really the best on the market. I know some people don't use it but I do and it's great. If it is not carried anymore is the only way I would give it up.
When I have people over they ask "what is that, I want one" is the reply I get. I hope this is the beginning and not the end.
I hope "microsoft" is "microhard headed" on this product. If gets the chance it will take off with the new Xbox/Utv recorder that's coming out to compete with the PSX and will from what I heard have all the same features and a DVD recorder. That would be nice and maybe extend us and not delet us from the future of a great TV experence.
I must tell yea, the UTV still ROCKS!
I have been watching the new tech products and with the PSX coming out I have been wondering if I should start to look for a new unit but really what will I get, just a DVD recorder and even though I would like that a lot I can't see spending all that money for something I already have with the UTV. The only weakness the UTV has is it's small hard drive and mabe a place for dsl/cable to hook up and that's it. When I upgraded that to 120 gb it is much better. Ever more would really rule, especially since the new HD tv will require so much more to record. I would never go back to not having something, but with the picture in a picture it is really the best on the market. I know some people don't use it but I do and it's great. If it is not carried anymore is the only way I would give it up.
When I have people over they ask "what is that, I want one" is the reply I get. I hope this is the beginning and not the end.
I hope "microsoft" is "microhard headed" on this product. If gets the chance it will take off with the new Xbox/Utv recorder that's coming out to compete with the PSX and will from what I heard have all the same features and a DVD recorder. That would be nice and maybe extend us and not delet us from the future of a great TV experence.
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