[mo0sic]

Can someone confirm that MCE 2005 now works with the Fusion card from DVICO when tuning channels via QAM? What card are you using? Drivers? Can you time shift in MCE with it and record normally? I've read the other super long thread, but would like to split MCE off from that thread if possible.

 

[3rob3]

Where did you hear this? It works with the Fusion cards for OTA only, as far as I have heard.


I tried messing around with it last night trying to trick it into using QAM, but had no luck.

 

[mo0sic]

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Originally posted by 3rob3 Where did you hear this? It works with the Fusion cards for OTA only, as far as I have heard. I tried messing around with it last night trying to trick it into using QAM, but had no luck.

See this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...pagenumber=24.


Starting at post #465.

 

[nbarsotti]

I have read in many places that MCE still does not tune the QAM channels. I finally got my fusion card to work in MCE. I had to buy A PVR-150MCE as an analog card before it would recognize my Fusion.


Does anyone have choppy video when watching HDTV. When watching analog TV with the PVR-150MCE everything looks fine, but as soon as I switch to a HDTV channel everything gets choppy. The FusionHDTV application plays totally smooth. My setup is athlon 2600+, 1 GB ram, ati 9800. Please chime in if this is happening for you or if you have a solution.

 

[araghava]

I find it incredibly stupid that MCE requires an analog tuner installed in order to use an ATSC tuner. Further both the HDTV wonder and Fusion have analog tuning builtin yet MCE requires an external analog tuner thereby making the analog portion of the HDTV card redundant.

 

[nbarsotti]

agreed, It doesn't make any sense to me at all. You would think it would be able to find and use one ATSC tuner just fine.

 

[Phil Hightech]

Quote:

Originally posted by nbarsotti Does anyone have choppy video when watching HDTV. When watching analog TV with the PVR-150MCE everything looks fine, but as soon as I switch to a HDTV channel everything gets choppy. The FusionHDTV application plays totally smooth. My setup is athlon 2600+, 1 GB ram, ati 9800. Please chime in if this is happening for you or if you have a solution.

Same problem here. pvr-150mce,xp2400,512mb,ti4200 I'm used to things not working with the fusion III but the weird part is the playback of a recorded OTA signal is almost perfect.(slight studder at the beginning of the recording) I'm expecting a P4 system soon and I'll transfer everything over to that and see what happens. The Fusion card has always behaved better for me in an Intel system.

Also the fusion app gives me an error and doesn't work with digital. Cannot connect to TTgraph?(can't rember exactly)I've unistalled and reinstalled the fusion software with no luck.

I must say also that the picture from the Fusion III playing thru mce2005 on the computer monitor is noticably worse.

 

[3rob3]

mo0sic,

I read the thread you indicated but see nothing there about using QAM in MCE 2005. Am I missing something?

 

[mo0sic]

Quote:

Originally posted by 3rob3 mo0sic, I read the thread you indicated but see nothing there about using QAM in MCE 2005. Am I missing something?

Sorry go to this page. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&pagenumber=23


See post #458 by uspino.

 

[3rob3]

Hmmm, the thread he linked to about the registry change needed is from the ieXbeta board where I discussed getting the Fusion to work with MCE 2005 OTA channels. I would love to know how he is doing it.

 

[mo0sic]

Quote:

Originally posted by 3rob3 Hmmm, the thread he linked to about the registry change needed is from the ieXbeta board where I discussed getting the Fusion to work with MCE 2005 OTA channels. I would love to know how he is doing it.

I'm probably full of it.

 

[nbarsotti]

Phil Hightech I have a very similar setup to you and I am having a very similar problem. I have noticed that the stuttering goes away when I drip the resolution of my monitor lower. At 1600x1200 the stuttering is really bad and at 1024x768 it goes away. I too have a pvr-150mce, dvico fusion 3 qam/t, amd 2600+, 1gb ram. I am using the new dvico beta drivers and it has only made matters worse.


What resolution are you running at?

Has anyone tried the new 3.0 beta drivers for the fusion?

 

[Phil Hightech]

The nvdia 4200 was the main problem for me. I switched to a 9800pro and things were alot better (HD picture was still not completely smooth). I moved everything over to a Dell 400sc (intel) box 2.8GHz ,1gb pc3200, ati9800pro,Fusion 3. Everything now looks great. No hicups crashes or stutters. I do have a problem with MCE switching the cable box during a scheduled recording. It doesn't switch to the correct channel.

I am at 1024x1024 on the PC and 720x480 via s-svideo to the TV. Tried the new Dvico beta drivers and did not see any difference.

 

[HookedOnTV]

You can't run MCE with only a digital tuner?

 

[smick]

With MCE 2005, I get choppy video from my HDTV Wonder with a 9600, 2.4GHz Intel and 512M RAM. Recorded video is choppy too. Otherwise MCE is great for me.

 

[nbarsotti]

HookedOnTv you are right about MCE not working with only a digital tuner card. At first I only had a a fusionHDTV III qam-t and MCE didn't detect and TV tuner. I went out and bought a PVR-150MCE and now MCE sees both the analog and digital TV tuner.

 

[Karyk]

Quote:

Originally posted by araghava I find it incredibly stupid that MCE requires an analog tuner installed in order to use an ATSC tuner. Further both the HDTV wonder and Fusion have analog tuning builtin yet MCE requires an external analog tuner thereby making the analog portion of the HDTV card redundant.

Redundant? IMHO the analog portion is totally unnecessary, so I'm not sure it's redundant to add a second analog tuner. It's absurd.


Thank you MSFT for dragging us back into the 20th Century!

 

[hraner]

Here is my setup: P4 2.8Ghz with Hyper-Thread enabled, 1GB RAM, Radeon 9600, MCE 2005, PVR-150MCE, FusionHDTV3 Gold, HTPC 1280x720 DVI output to my RPTV.


I am also getting shuttering HDTV playback in Media Center(also worse picture quality), however, if I use FusionHDTV's player it's perfectly fine. So looks like it's a common problem. The problem is I have no option to configure the video/audio settings(unlike FusionHDTV's player, you can configure DxVA/software decoding etc). Anybody with a P4 3.2Ghz has the similar setup? Still have the shuttering problem?


About the analog TV card part, I really hate that I have to spend $70 and get PVR-150MCE just in order to go into the TV setting part of MCE2005. After that, I can disable the PVR150 in control panel and the digital tuner still works fine(but can't go into TV setting again).


Also, I am having trouble with SPDIF output of 5.1 channel audio(I have a AV-710 audio card with SPDIF to my receiver). MCE2005 is giving me a lot of trouble, not really worth it.

 

[swordboy]

So... if we can't get QAM with an HTPC in a usable form yet, what happens if I buy an HDTV with a built-in tuner? Can I get the non-encrypted HDTV channels without cablecard?

 

[lennyr]

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if we can't get QAM with an HTPC in a usable form yet

We can, just not via the Media Center shell/app. The Fusion HDTV3 Gold Q tunes QAM, and works (if you don't count crashing from changing channels "too much" and other such behavior as not working) under WinXP. I just quit out of MC and use the Fusion app from XP when I want to watch or record a QAM channel.


It's worth noting that Media Center is perfectly happy to use the Fusion to tune OTA digital TV - it just doesn't seem to realize that the card can get QAM too. It's retarded to have to leave MC, but it does "work."