[umenon]

Startup Junkies is a PG-rated show on MOJO-HD ... I watch it with my teenage son (12yr old) to make him interested in becoming a entrepreneur.


But I was shocked while watching a recent episode of this PG-rated show when MOJO decided to put on very explicit commercials for "Girls Gone Wild" during the show.


Needless to say I am not watching MOJO-HD again.


But on a more important note - can a TV station be sued for not ensuring all ads comply with the parental rating of the show during which they are broadcast ?

 

[Devin Clancy]



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Originally Posted by umenon /forum/post/14186807


Startup Junkies is a PG-rated show on MOJO-HD ... I watch it with my teenage son (12yr old) to make him interested in becoming a entrepreneur.


But I was shocked while watching a recent episode of this PG-rated show when MOJO decided to put on very explicit commercials for "Girls Gone Wild" during the show.


Needless to say I am not watching MOJO-HD again.


But on a more important note - can a TV station be sued for not ensuring all ads comply with the parental rating of the show during which they are broadcast ?

Girls gone wild doesn't have nudity or anything in its commercials. They are PG-13 at worst. I'm pretty sure your 12-year old has seen worse.

 

[moob]

When I was 12 I already started my own little "secret stash." Something tells me your son didn't mind. Plus, as mentioned, there's no nudity in the commercials.


I'm not sure how tv ratings really work by the way. Battlestar Galactica often gets a TV-PG rating, yet that's littered with blood, sex, drug/alcohol references and many adult themes like torture and even rape. So go figure.

 

[spongyfungy]

Well it's cable first of all and they can air those commercials whenever they want.


TVPG =

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This program contains material that parents may find unsuitable for younger children

There are four ratings before TV PG. TVY, TVY7, TVY7+ FV(fantasy violence), and TV G and those are suitable for kids

 

[umenon]



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Originally Posted by Devin Clancy /forum/post/14186885


I'm pretty sure your 12-year old has seen worse.

Probably .. or probably not. I am not a conservative (I am an atheist for crying out loud) ... but I tend to keep him focused on things that will give him an edge when he grows up ... and so far he is very much into gadgets / building / programming and other stuff. So far so good.


In any case ... while they may not be breaking any laws, those kinds of commercials are inappropriate during a PG show.


I will not be watching that channel any more.

 

[OggideM]

isn't that GGW guy the perfect example of a startup entrepreneur?

 

[danc8379]



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Originally Posted by OggideM /forum/post/14187240


isn't that GGG guy the perfect example of a startup entrepreneur?

Yeah, except for that prison term that he just served....

 

[OggideM]



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Originally Posted by danc8379 /forum/post/14187265


Yeah, except for that prison term that he just served....

lol. hey that has nothing to do with being a successful businessman-- which is what the OP said he wanted to teach his kid. heheheheh . guilty of making/selling kiddie pr0n, tax evasion, and people obviously still buying his product in droves. could obviously be wrong, but odds are he makes more $/year than anyone posting on this forum.

 

[CPanther95]



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Originally Posted by Devin Clancy /forum/post/14186885


Girls gone wild doesn't have nudity or anything in its commercials. They are PG-13 at worst. I'm pretty sure your 12-year old has seen worse.

Any semi-responsible parent in their right mind would not want their kids to see the GGW commercials. They're X-rated videos being advertised - there's no reason for them to be aired during childrens programming. And unless your kid is an idiot, the small censor blocks don't conceal what is going on - only the naughty bits.


Ads should be rated and they should only be aired during comparable (or higher) rated programming. Or, they should change the rating of the program to accomodate the highest rated commercial they wish to air.


That is a simple policy that all nets should self impose. If not, they'll be crying when the government successfully imposes broadcast standards on the cablenets. Use the ratings properly, and the V-chip gives you all the ammo you need to place the responsibility where it belongs - on the individual parent/household.

 

[ehren]

Hell the boner pill ads are right up there, no pun intended.

 

[URFloorMatt]

Were you watching live? What time does the program air?


For instance, Comedy Central airs different ads depending on what time of day they're running The Daily Show and The Colbert Report. During the 11:00pm run, they'll sometimes air ads for hard alcohol, but they won't do that during the daytime replays. During the 1:00am run, they'll do GGW ads, but they don't run any other time.


I bring this up because with DVR penetration being what it is, people might be recording 3:00am versions of programming without realizing that the ads running at that time of day aren't as kid friendly as ads running at 1:00pm.


That said, I've never gotten the impression that Mojo is a kid-friendly network, and given its position on the digital tier, I don't think it has an obligation to be kid-friendly just because it airs a program that's rated TV-PG. Most of Mojo's programming seems targeted at affluent male adults.

 

[CPanther95]

Time of day doesn't matter if it is airing during a program that is rated as kid friendly. They may not have an obligation to be kid-friendly, but they are obligated to rate their programs correctly. Airing a TV-MA commercial during a TV-PG program defeats the whole purpose of the rating system.

 

[TVOD]

While I am tempted to say that erotic images are probably less damaging than violent ones, I applaud the OP for simply making the choice of turning off a channel. Perhaps feedback to a channel would also be appropriate. I suspect at 12 he probably already has his mojo working.

 

[URFloorMatt]



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Originally Posted by CPanther95 /forum/post/14187761


Time of day doesn't matter if it is airing during a program that is rated as kid friendly. They may not have an obligation to be kid-friendly, but they are obligated to rate their programs correctly. Airing a TV-MA commercial during a TV-PG program defeats the whole purpose of the rating system.

They are not obligated to do anything. To answer the question posed by the OP, the ratings system has no legal or administrative force. It's voluntary. Indeed, according to Wikipedia, some programs have changed rating mid-episode.


Even if the ratings system did have legal force, I think you'd get more than a few lawsuits before anyone in the industry conceded that the ratings apply to advertising. By the networks own practice of displaying the ratings following commercial break, it seems they don't believe the ratings apply to commercials, especially considering that in some rare instances the ratings have changed mid-episode.

 

[bicker1]

Beyond that, commercials would be rated based on the content of the commercial, not the content of the program or product it is advertising.

 

[CPanther95]



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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt /forum/post/14187897


They are not obligated to do anything. To answer the question posed by the OP, the ratings system has no legal or administrative force. It's voluntary. Indeed, according to Wikipedia, some programs have changed rating mid-episode.

No they aren't legally obligated, but they have an obligation as a voluntary participant in the program to use some common sense. If they thumb their nose at the program, it won't be long before legislation is passed that takes the decision out of their hands.


... and it's a coin toss whether that legislation will simply enforce the V-Chip guidelines, or completely censor the cablenets. I don't want to leave that to chance.

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Originally Posted by URFloorMatt /forum/post/14187897


Even if the ratings system did have legal force, I think you'd get more than a few lawsuits before anyone in the industry conceded that the ratings apply to advertising.

You're right. As the program is currently applied, the advertisements aren't a factor in the rating system which is why they aren't even rated. However, they should be.

 

[CPanther95]



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Originally Posted by bicker1 /forum/post/14188311


Beyond that, commercials would be rated based on the content of the commercial, not the content of the program or product it is advertising.

The GGW commercials would exceed a TV-PG rating as they currently air.

 

[SeattleAl]

Most of their stuff is PG or less, but it would be better if they put the GGW commercials on during the Girls of STARE program, or dedicated informercial blocks at 2AM to GGW in HD.

 

[scott_bernstein]



Quote:
Originally Posted by umenon /forum/post/14186807


Startup Junkies is a PG-rated show on MOJO-HD ... I watch it with my teenage son (12yr old) to make him interested in becoming a entrepreneur.


But I was shocked while watching a recent episode of this PG-rated show when MOJO decided to put on very explicit commercials for "Girls Gone Wild" during the show.


Needless to say I am not watching MOJO-HD again.


But on a more important note - can a TV station be sued for not ensuring all ads comply with the parental rating of the show during which they are broadcast ?

If you want them to do something about this, let them know:
http://www.mojohd.com/contact/

 

[Swisher33]



Quote:
Originally Posted by umenon /forum/post/14186807


Startup Junkies is a PG-rated show on MOJO-HD ... I watch it with my teenage son (12yr old) to make him interested in becoming a entrepreneur.


But I was shocked while watching a recent episode of this PG-rated show when MOJO decided to put on very explicit commercials for "Girls Gone Wild" during the show.


Needless to say I am not watching MOJO-HD again.


But on a more important note - can a TV station be sued for not ensuring all ads comply with the parental rating of the show during which they are broadcast ?

LOLLLLLLLLL. Dude, chill, seriously. A GGW commercial won't turn him into a monster. I turn 18 in October and i've probably been watching porn since I was 9 years old. And it hasn't effected my life in any sort of way. I still want to go to college after I graduate and get into business or sports management. Porn won't derail him or will get his focus away from other things. And anyways, what grade is he in, 6th, 7th? He's gonna have to learn about sex, penises and vaginas quite soon, anyway. And ehren is right, look at all those ED commercials. They're not that much better. I'm a huge sports fan and I probably see about 30 of those per football game. ''Viva Viagra''? What the ****?