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Monster Cable vs. Competitors

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Sorry if this is the wrong forum, I don't know where else to place it. Anyways, I just bought a new receiver and need digital coax and optical cables. Is there any real world noticeable difference between Monster Cables and their competitors lower priced cable in regards to signal/data loss? In other words, if I purchase cheaper digital coax/optical cables, will there be a perceptible difference between them and the cables from Monster Cables? Isn't there a data transfer standard that the cable manufacturers have to follow in regards to digital coax and optical?


I also wonder why I can get the standard optical cable from Monster for $40 less than their top of the line optical cable. If I use the lower priced one, am I really losing all that much?
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Get a cable with quality ends on it and dont pay alot. Lots of ads on this site for cable. You would hear nothing different from the higher price to lower price cable. You just may want a tougher connector if you plan on moving it around to different parts of your room til you decide where it stays for good.
yeah for the digital audio, you don't really need a really expensive cable... monster would definitely be overpriced!
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Monster: good marketing, good cables, obscene price (and some say immoral business practices). Better cables available for less: Acoustic Research, Belkin, and many others.
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jermy


Please keep personal attacks off the forum.


Thank you.
for digital cable a coathanger will work for bit for bit perfect transfers. This is tested and joked about.


Spend the money on speakers (which will make audible differences).


monster cable... they make about %1000 profit off us gullible fools. People make a big deal about the quality of cable termination. As long as it doesn't fall out, you get cd,ac3, or dts at the other end... you are done.


realize any cable in which "noise" is introduced (such a cable is like the loch ness monster by the way) would make DTS unplayable. ANY ANY ANY ANY cable that allows dts playback means that it is working.


digital cables either work or they don't ... for home theater runs there is no difference between good and bad cable. If it works it works, period.
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Monster: good marketing, good cables, obscene price (and some say immoral business practices). Better cables available for less: Acoustic Research, Belkin, and many others.
Monster: Great marketing (mainly the name), lousy products, obscene prices. Anything is better, but for digital signals it really doesn't matter, as long as it works.
I have used Monster and they're fine...maybe a little overpriced. I have

great with a company called Bluejeans cables. Their website

(sorry for not offering a link) has some real common sense suggestions

and info.
Monster cables! If you buy a $100 set of Monster cables the store will make a $48 profit from YOU. I'm assuming that Monster makes a similar profit on the cables. So the actual cost of the cables maybe only $20.

Don't pay for what you can't hear. John
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Monster cables! If you buy a $100 set of Monster cables the store will make a $48 profit from YOU. I'm assuming that Monster makes a similar profit on the cables. So the actual cost of the cables maybe only $20.

Don't pay for what you can't hear. John
LOL. Do you think other cables don't have the same mark-ups. LMAO! ALL CABLES HAVE AT LEAST 50 POINTS OF MARGIN. Your RCA brand or Phoenix Gold $14.95 cables cost about $3.00. Same goes for your speakers, amps, pre-amps, receivers, etc....
I always follow the rule that you should use the best cables you can afford. For some of the prices you are paying for Monster cables, you could get a better brand of cable.


Higher end digital cables will be constructed using many more polymer fibers or even glass fibers which will be superior to what you are currently researching. This will result in a much more pure light transmission with "negligible loss, distortion or jitter".


My advice is if you want good sound, spend good money on not only your equipment, but your interconnects and speaker cables as well.


I use all high-end AudioQuest cables and am extremely happy. There are a slew of others out there as well to choose from.


There is a big debate on cables going on constantly... Due to my own experiences w/having very revealing equipment, this is just my opinion and advice. It may not be applicable in your situation, etc.


-Ed
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I bought most of not all of my cables (speaker, component, sub cable, RCA for digital, and Composite video) and I paid an average of $9 per cable amd I am very happy with what I have. There is no one in here that convince me that $10000000000 cables are any better than the $9 ones from Radio Shack (all are gold plated).......
Thats great YeuE......., enjoy your $9.00 Rat Shack cables
At the sub $60 there is a difference in 2m component cables.

At the sub $30 there is difference in 1m S-video cables.

At the sub 25' there is no difference in optical cables.

I have yet to hear a difference in any digi-coax cables. I even use a radio shack gold video cable for one.

There is no difference in quality RG-6 except in terminations.


At least that is my findings from the cables that I own.

To mix things up I try and have a little of everything.

I prefer the belden/canare industrial style of cable for my setups and this is somewhat cheaper than monster's mas market stuff. (the line higher than the standard but below their fancy line.)

However if I can find overstock or liquidation of somthing prettier for much less I usually go with that.


With digital cables (DVI HDMI optical coaxial) there is no difference (at short lengths) just pick the style/construction you like at the length you want and shop for the cheapest you can find. For this purpose I feel the belden/canare is a bit of overkill as you are bringing a gun to a knife fight. Plain jane wal-mart RCA/Phillips or radio shack will work. but if you have diamond studded interconnects, I can understand wanting something flashier to keep up the looks, especially when you mount your equipment on mirrors like they do at the car shows.

Still I'd reccomend acoustic research for this as they have the best bang for the buck. It's got the monster look and build but not the monster price.

For component I prefer the canare/belden. I have used radio shack, phillips, RCA, monster, and believe that while more expensive than the rest you are buying more cable. This is my 'splurge' cables.

For sub cables I've tried monster, audioquest, NXG, radio shack, acoustic research, and have had good success with all. It's simply finding a length that you need at the price you want.

For S-video it's more complex. Here the termination plug plays the most important role as it is what connects to your devices and connects to the cables inside. If the solder breaks or the conncetor sits loose you will have a bad signal regardless of the cable itself.

I have gone through the most S-video cables and find that the more you pay the more you really get. But in all honesty for a 6 foot length you should never pay more tha $30 for the cable. $50 if you are buying in a retail store.


In the end:

with digital anything - as long as quality, no variation in brand or style

with subwoofer - very slight variation but depends on length and noise.

stereo interconnects - don't use.

component cables - mild variation which can be deemed negligible, however more dependent on quality of dvd player. If you have a crap DVD player your cables won't show the slight edge, but if you have a high end one, you will notice differences, especially at the extremes (lights and shadows) and colorfastness.

s-video - most variation. don't skimp here and make sure the connections are good. It's my experience that it's cheaper to get a good component cable than an s-video, and besides with all compnent in your setup you can use your AVR for video swithing.


speaker cables - not going there.


Seth


P.S. If you want to know what I use,

I have bluejeans for all my component cables. different models depending on length and connector though. These are my most expensive at $50 each set.

NXG and monster and AR sub cables. (nothing more tha $25 and I have a 30' length)

NXG, AR master series (my personal favorite consumer cable) and radio shack optical cables. (nothing more than $10 all for 2m and under)

Canare SACD 5 channel interconnects.

Digital Coax - AR pro at under $20.

S-video - AR, radio shack, monster M, Monster consumer, audioquest, all under $35. Slowly I'm phasing out as my two setups go HD.

from the installer RG-6, but after the wall plate, AR pro and master, and belden. This is of course at the 3' length. the stuff from the installer was free (included in the install) and the shorter lengths were $12 and under.


I could never imagine what the MSRP cost of all these cables are. I mean, the 2m AR master optical is like a $100 cable. The monster S-video is like $60. The canare SACD is $100+ But I can't see myself doing that.


Remember, unless you have extreme equipment, the mild differences won't be noticeable. As in you have an old zenith tube and some rca dvd player. No reason getting $50 component cables.

When you have a $200+ dvd player and a ~$2k display then you should move up.
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Yes it is because I took the hundreds I saved to buy other things that I wanted like a mini motorcycle (a lot of fun BTW) So you can enjoy all that expensive cables retailing for mega cash while I enjoy something much more entertaining. :)

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Thats great YeuE......., enjoy your $9.00 Rat Shack cables
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Yes it is because I took the hundreds I saved to buy other things that I wanted like a mini motorcycle (a lot of fun BTW) So you can enjoy all that expensive cables retailing for mega cash while I enjoy something much more entertaining. :)
Ya, mini's are cute, but this is how I roll. Thanks Monster Power ;)
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Tom, is that nitrous plumbing I see? Also, is that a Suzy, kaw or yammy motor? - can't quite tell from this angle. Love those carbs though!
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