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Members following my earlier thread on Misty Evening grey paint may recall I mentioned it seemed to have a certain '3D like' quality especially when claymation is the subject matter. See if you agree.


****ATTENTION**** For comparison I have posted these same screen shots from my "silver" screen. Though the jury is still out, curious members may want to compare the two. Goto page 10, starting with post #184.
 

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Study this image. Do the hands (wings in this case) seem to jet out a bit to you also?
 

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All this has made me curious about a colour I have from Sherwin Williams. It's called Rhinestone. Very similar to the Misty Grey from the descriptions. The ever so slight blue on light grey. I am still using an old Sony 400q so I am a bit fearful the colour would not work so well with that projector. So far I have not bee brave enough to get either the Panasonic AE300 or the Infocus X1 to replace it. The wife may not fully appreciate the need for replacement.:p


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I like to think this image also displays that '3D' like quality the way Rocky's foot projects forward the way it does.
 

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CMRA - been following you on this one, getting my x1 in a couple of days assuming Dell stops jerking me around.


I have the Glidden color strips here, I'm wondering why you didn't go with the "universal grey", two leaves over, which is a "perfect" grey, no colors, the only tint is lamp black.
 

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Originally posted by jsm88
CMRA - been following you on this one, getting my x1 in a couple of days assuming Dell stops jerking me around.

I'm getting the same treatment from dell. Hell, they didn't even buy me dinner before they started to abuse me in ways I don't want to even mention :mad:
 

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CMRA - been following you on this one

I have the Glidden color strips here, I'm wondering why you didn't go with the "universal grey", two leaves over, which is a "perfect" grey, no colors, the only tint is lamp black.
What makes you think I didn't? Before my ME discovery I tested 'plank', 'chromium' and another that looked spot on to the Greyhawk. All the greys produced better blacks but not without crushing the whites. The darker the grey, the deeper the blacks and the duller the whites. ME was the oddball. It enhanced the blacks without fogging the whites. The faint blue tint is a non factor when viewing. You won't notce it and if you have seen my screen shots you'll see it has no effect on skin tones. Here is a sample:
 

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CM - didn't mean to imply that you haven't, though I see you don't mention universal in your response.


You mention different shades - I can see your point as to how they would crush whites etc, and I appreciate your work bringing out a new angle on the grey question.


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My question was specifically about Glidden "universal grey". It is not lighter or darker then ME, in fact it is the EXACT SAME SHADE, just without the blue and green added (when you look at the factory ME recipie.) Now, the BG may be what makes ME a hit, but I was curious as to what a completely neutral grey of exactly same shade from the same manufacturer would do.


I will test this myself if Dell ever deigns to send me my X1. I used a perfectly legit coupon (one they sent me) to get it for $899 and they telling me it could be three weeks. (of course if you're willing to pay full price they'll ship it tomorrow.) I have bought hundreds of thousands worth of systems from Dell over the years for various campaigns and organizations, because in this land of the blind I am the one eyed man when it comes to computers. Because Dell thought it was worthwhile to screw me on this one purchase I will NEVER buy from these slick SOBs again. Ramming a hot poker through Michael Dell's eye seems unlikely to happen, but one can dream.
 

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My question was specifically about Glidden "universal grey". It is not lighter or darker then ME, in fact it is the EXACT SAME SHADE, just without the blue and green added (when you look at the factory ME recipie.) Now, the BG may be what makes ME a hit, but I was curious as to what a completely neutral grey of exactly same shade from the same manufacturer would do.

Why not try a quart of both and determine which best suits you? The paint is relatively cheap and can always be used elsewhere. I painted my utility room with my discards.
 

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I plan on it if I ever get the projector. I am trying to come up with an effective grid pattern I can use to paint 4 or 5 colors and get good variety across the image. Will try white, ME, AG, and a couple of the dyi mixes mentioned here.
 

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Will try white, ME, AG, and a couple of the dyi mixes mentioned here.
Now that sounds excellent! Two thoughts to share. One, please don't make your samples small. I recommend no smaller than 1/4 of your screen size. Two: Don't discard your samples. They may become invaluable when you change/upgrade to another projector. Best wishes.
 

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what were you planning on painting this onto? I was thinkin of grabbing a piece of particle board and painting it with a few colors to see which I liked best, then paint the whole thing that color. Think that would work? Is particle board to "absorbing" to paint effectively? Any suggestions?
 

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I plan on using a 4X4 sheet of drywall I have lying around as the test sheet - smooth and easy to paint. Will set it up in a pattern that allows a comparison across the image. Too many examples have the different paints lined up so that one part of the image (a face) is all on one type of surface while the rest (hair and background) are on the other. It's really impossible to compare two different surfaces that way.


Still no sign of my x1, so don't wait up, but I will do it as soon as I can.
 

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a piece of drywall wouldn't be too "smooth"? I know once they throw that texture crap on there when the drywallers paint over it, it gets a texture then, but I figured regular sheet of drywall would be too smooth. has anyone else tried this? I think a friend has a few extra sheets of it layin in his basement. that would be a great cost-saving DIY screen if the results would be nice. right now i'm projecting onto a dirty off-white wall with holes in it from pictures that once hung there :)
 

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I'm under the impression that smooth isn't bad, someone let me know if I'm wrong about this. I know that the most used side of the parkland is smooth.
 

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i was under the impression that you used the textured side of the parkland and the smooth side for the glue (as intended in a regular use of it).
 

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another question regarding using painted drywall. do i need to do anything to the drywall first or is it just ready to apply paint to?
 

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Prime it!



Peace Out~:D
 

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another question regarding using painted drywall. do i need to do anything to the drywall first or is it just ready to apply paint to?
Absolutely PRIME it. 2 coats! If painting with latex, I promote Kilz 2.
 

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heck, I don't know, I just want to test the paint. I'll post again before I start for more advice after I get the pj, dell now tells me they won't ship until the 17th, so i may never see the thing - I refuse to give them the satisfaction of canceling my order (as they're losing money on the price they offered)
 
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