[puravida]

Hello,


I would like everyones advice on wall mounting speakers without a stud. The speakers will be installed in a typical 5.1 setup, ie fronts, center and surrounds. Sub will go on the floor. The problem is there are not studs in the exact location I want to hang them. Some details on the speakers:


they are Definitive Procinema 800.


the fronts / surrounds are 4 lbs a piece


the center is 6 lbs.


Has anyone mounted speakers that heavy without a stud? Is it a bad idea?


Thanks in advance

 

[Colm]



Quote:
Originally Posted by puravida /forum/post/20828521


Has anyone mounted speakers that heavy without a stud?

Not heavy enough to worry about mounting on drywall.

 

[Killer]

I might use a toggle bolt to spread out the weight on the backside of the drywall. But otherwise shouldn't be an issue.

 

[machavez00]

(the late)Billy Mays to the rescue!

 

[Benito Joaquin]

drywall should be able to handle that weight with big issues.

My surrounds are about that weight and i had no problems since i put them up.


benito

 

[Javatime]

6 lbs...no problem at all.

 

[MuaySteve]

I just mounted some height speakers. Unfortunately I used crappy kind of drywall plug that was to rounded and ended up spinning in the hole. I ended up cutting out a 4 or 5 inch section of the drywall, and screwed in a cross piece of 2x4 between the 2 studs and placed a new piece of drywall back over.


I was able to do over 3 nights, (mudding, sanding, priming painting...) at about 90 minutes in total.

 

[Neurorad]

+1, directly into drywall, np


drywall screws would probably work fine


but I REALLY like THESE drywall anchors, available at Home Depot

You need to know the drywall thickness


Edit - the device is called a molly bolt, I like the one with the pointed tip

Edit #2 - comparison of drywall anchors:

http://www.dannylipford.com/testing-...cture-hangers/

 

[puravida]

Thanks for all the responses. I love these forums!!!

 

[kevine123]

Install speakers in plasterboard where there is no stud.

Hey Steve, this is exactly what i want to do but not sure where to start on what to search in YouTube to find a tutorial. Can you help? thankyou

I just mounted some height speakers. Unfortunately I used crappy kind of drywall plug that was to rounded and ended up spinning in the hole. I ended up cutting out a 4 or 5 inch section of the drywall, and screwed in a cross piece of 2x4 between the 2 studs and placed a new piece of drywall back over.

I was able to do over 3 nights, (mudding, sanding, priming painting...) at about 90 minutes in total.

 

[MuaySteve]

Hey Steve, this is exactly what i want to do but not sure where to start on what to search in YouTube to find a tutorial. Can you help? thankyou

Hey kevin123. I'll do what I can.



I couldn't find any tutorials either.



Mark the wall exactly where you want the mounting screw to go. (we will assume it is not directly over a stud and that you are in between 2 studs.)


You are going to cut a hole. It will need to be about 5 to 6 inches high so you have room to handle it piece of wood and screw it into place. So your top cut will be about 3 inches above our mark, and your bottom cut will be about 3 inches below.



Start with the top cut (or bottom, doesn't matter). Start in the same center line as your mark. With a drywall knife, cut to the right.... keep going until you hit a stud. Then cut about a half inch further so that your piece of drywall will overlap the studs a little. This will help you a lot when you put the drywall back in place.


*Don't ram your saw all the way in. Just use the tip, no more than an inch deep in case there are any wires in there. (Insert penis jokes here) You do not want to cut or nick a live electrical wire.



Then go back to the starting point and continue along the same cut to the left until you hit a stud on the left side. Once again... cut a half inch past that first edge of the stud so your drywall piece will over lap the stud face a little on each side.



Do the same for the bottom line.


Then make your vertical drywall cuts to complete your rectangle and pop your piece of drywall out. Your rectangle should be somewhere around 16" x 6" depending on how far apart your studs are in the wall.



Measure your height for your screw again and mark it on each stud... you want to make sure the piece you a adding will be where you want it.



Measure the space between the two studs and cut a piece of 2x4 to fit. Before you put it in place, drill a 45 degree pilot hole in each end of the 2x4 on the side that will face out. (You can use the wide face of the 2x4 so you will have more surface area to screw into. You may want 2 pilot holes on each end if you do this.) Use a 2" or 2.5" screw to screw it into the studs. You can start the screws in the pilot holes so you don't have to fiddle with them while you are trying to hold the wood in place. (Don't drop it into the wall



Hold it in place, try and keep it flush, (it's okay if the piece is a little recessed, but its a pain the ass if it is a little proud) then screw in the one side.Counter sink the screw so that it doesn't stick out. Then do the other side also making sure it is flush.


Make sense? If not, fire me another question.


Steve

 

[kevine123]

thankyou

Wow MuaySteve,

Thanks heaps..... extremely well thought out and easy to understand.

cheers

Hey kevin123. I'll do what I can.



I couldn't find any tutorials either.



Mark the wall exactly where you want the mounting screw to go. (we will assume it is not directly over a stud and that you are in between 2 studs.)


You are going to cut a hole. It will need to be about 5 to 6 inches high so you have room to handle it piece of wood and screw it into place. So your top cut will be about 3 inches above our mark, and your bottom cut will be about 3 inches below.



Start with the top cut (or bottom, doesn't matter). Start in the same center line as your mark. With a drywall knife, cut to the right.... keep going until you hit a stud. Then cut about a half inch further so that your piece of drywall will overlap the studs a little. This will help you a lot when you put the drywall back in place.


*Don't ram your saw all the way in. Just use the tip, no more than an inch deep in case there are any wires in there. (Insert penis jokes here) You do not want to cut or nick a live electrical wire.



Then go back to the starting point and continue along the same cut to the left until you hit a stud on the left side. Once again... cut a half inch past that first edge of the stud so your drywall piece will over lap the stud face a little on each side.



Do the same for the bottom line.


Then make your vertical drywall cuts to complete your rectangle and pop your piece of drywall out. Your rectangle should be somewhere around 16" x 6" depending on how far apart your studs are in the wall.



Measure your height for your screw again and mark it on each stud... you want to make sure the piece you a adding will be where you want it.



Measure the space between the two studs and cut a piece of 2x4 to fit. Before you put it in place, drill a 45 degree pilot hole in each end of the 2x4 on the side that will face out. (You can use the wide face of the 2x4 so you will have more surface area to screw into. You may want 2 pilot holes on each end if you do this.) Use a 2" or 2.5" screw to screw it into the studs. You can start the screws in the pilot holes so you don't have to fiddle with them while you are trying to hold the wood in place. (Don't drop it into the wall



Hold it in place, try and keep it flush, (it's okay if the piece is a little recessed, but its a pain the ass if it is a little proud) then screw in the one side.Counter sink the screw so that it doesn't stick out. Then do the other side also making sure it is flush.


Make sense? If not, fire me another question.


Steve

 

[kevine123]

one more question

MuaySteve,

Just wondering.... did you reuse the drywall you cut out or did you cut a new piece?

thanks again

Hey kevin123. I'll do what I can.



I couldn't find any tutorials either.



Mark the wall exactly where you want the mounting screw to go. (we will assume it is not directly over a stud and that you are in between 2 studs.)


You are going to cut a hole. It will need to be about 5 to 6 inches high so you have room to handle it piece of wood and screw it into place. So your top cut will be about 3 inches above our mark, and your bottom cut will be about 3 inches below.



Start with the top cut (or bottom, doesn't matter). Start in the same center line as your mark. With a drywall knife, cut to the right.... keep going until you hit a stud. Then cut about a half inch further so that your piece of drywall will overlap the studs a little. This will help you a lot when you put the drywall back in place.


*Don't ram your saw all the way in. Just use the tip, no more than an inch deep in case there are any wires in there. (Insert penis jokes here) You do not want to cut or nick a live electrical wire.



Then go back to the starting point and continue along the same cut to the left until you hit a stud on the left side. Once again... cut a half inch past that first edge of the stud so your drywall piece will over lap the stud face a little on each side.



Do the same for the bottom line.


Then make your vertical drywall cuts to complete your rectangle and pop your piece of drywall out. Your rectangle should be somewhere around 16" x 6" depending on how far apart your studs are in the wall.



Measure your height for your screw again and mark it on each stud... you want to make sure the piece you a adding will be where you want it.



Measure the space between the two studs and cut a piece of 2x4 to fit. Before you put it in place, drill a 45 degree pilot hole in each end of the 2x4 on the side that will face out. (You can use the wide face of the 2x4 so you will have more surface area to screw into. You may want 2 pilot holes on each end if you do this.) Use a 2" or 2.5" screw to screw it into the studs. You can start the screws in the pilot holes so you don't have to fiddle with them while you are trying to hold the wood in place. (Don't drop it into the wall



Hold it in place, try and keep it flush, (it's okay if the piece is a little recessed, but its a pain the ass if it is a little proud) then screw in the one side.Counter sink the screw so that it doesn't stick out. Then do the other side also making sure it is flush.


Make sense? If not, fire me another question.


Steve

 

[MuaySteve]

MuaySteve,

Just wondering.... did you reuse the drywall you cut out or did you cut a new piece?

thanks again

Ideally you want to be able to throw the same piece back up and it should fit well, but if it breaks etc, use a new piece. You can buy small project pieces at the depot. I recommend mudding it without using drywall tape. The couple times I have used tape around patches it never goes well.

 

[Neurorad]

FWIW, I switched to Snap Togglers, for heavy duty drywall anchors.

Available from Lowes, Home Depot, and Amazon.