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MP Mods MK II VS 9000LC

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Scott Lyons

Discussion Starter · May 16, 2006

Back in Febuary of this year Curt Palme & I were talking about upgrades to the Marque 8110 that I got from Curt last year.I decided with help from some guys on the forum here,that for the moment the best thing to do was to get the Mike Parker mods.I wanted to upgrade to a 9500lc later in the year & these MP Mods are able to be switched into the 9500LC when I got it.

I also decided to get the Power supply mod done as well to lower the noise coming from my 8110,which could also be switched to the 9500 later as well.So from my reading here on the forums Curt & I believed that the MP Mods would run under $1000.00.

So I am reading on the forum about the new MP Mods MK II & how there are a lot of guys who are now using them saying about how there the best thing since sliced bread,so I think great even better.

OK so Curt & I have been busy for the last 3 months,He finally has a discussion with Tim from E-Tech.

These mods are $1500 & the power supply mod is $250.So to get these here to Canada with shipping & taxes it's going to cost me $2100.00 American to have these sitting in my 8110.

Holy Crap.The 8110 cost me $3000 to begin with.

So Curt & I continue to talk & I ask him about his 9000LC that he has right now.

With my 8110 as a trade it will run me about $3000.00 to go to his 9000LC.

My question is what do you think is the way I should go.Keep the 8110 & go for the MP mods or just trade up to a 9000LC W/O mods.Whats the best picture for the Buck$$$$$.

$2100 for the mods or

$3000 for the 9000LC ??????

When I asked Curt he told me to ask this question here on the forum.He said that he would actually be interested in the answers that I received as would I.

OK thanks guys,let me know what you think.Please keep in mind I have never seen a better unit then my 8110,& have never seen MP Mods either so I am going on faith here.

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mp20748

· #2 · May 16, 2006

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Curt & I believed that the MP Mods would run under $1000.00

That amount was for the previous version of the mods, and it was also offered to a few people who were chosen as testers.

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So I am reading on the forum about the new MP Mods MK II & how there are a lot of guys who are now using them saying about how there the best thing since sliced bread

Actually, only a very few people have the lastest version, and the ones that do have them were recalled for the very lastest upgrade. I just shipped out a set of the lastest. One is an upgrade for CZ Eddies 02 VIM, that is an 03 VIM fully loaded. The other one is going to dragon man. It's also a fully loaded 03. I would rather you wait on what these two guys have to say first.

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My question is what do you think is the way I should go.Keep the 8110 & go for the MP mods or just trade up to a 9000LC W/O mods.Whats the best

The only thing that would help here is if you were able to try a set of the lastest version mods in your 8110. that would be the best way to decide what to do here. If that's something that you would like to try, I could make this happen for you.

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picture for the Buck$$$$$.

$2100 for the mods or

$3000 for the 9000LC ??????

When I asked Curt he told me to ask this question here on the forum.He said that he would actually be interested in the answers that I received as would I.

I won't get into this, but my thought has been to stay with that price, but maybe include a few other things to a couple more boards, or even lower the price for a set that uses the 50-2035-02P VIM. The 03 VIM requires a lot more work than the 02, therefore I'm more comfortable with this price for a set that has an 03 VIM.

The best thing to do is wait for the lastest reports once the boards get in the hands of those who they were sent to. One person (CZ) is upgrading from a lastest version 02 to a lastest version 03. The other guy (dragon) will be comparing his previous version 03 to my lastest version 03.

Once this report gets in. I'll post what the former Electrohome/Christie Digital engineer had to say about the lastest version mods.

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draganm

· #3 · May 16, 2006

Well I can't comment on which to get, I would want both

however, I would not trade in the 8110 because I would want to swap the Video Input module, Neck-boards, 2-4-6 pole flare rings, control module, focus board, HDM, and high voltage power supply into the 9000. This will make into a 9500, well darn close anyway.

If the 8110 has the 50-2035-03P VIM you REALLY want to keep that especially. If the 9000 has the stock boards in it, I don't beleive they even qualify for MP mods. AFAIK, Mike only mods the second gen. stuff from 8110/8500/9500.

So there you go, now your decision is even more difficult. No, it's OK, you can thank me later

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Scott Lyons

Discussion Starter · #4 · May 16, 2006

Thanks for the reply's guys.

I will wait & talk to both CZ Eddie & DraganM about the new mods.

Also DraganM makes a good point about the focus board,HVPS etc.

When I worked for Sony of Canada, sometimes I would see a guy with 8 pages of reviews & 10 different brochures of a product.As I talked to him I learned that the more he read & the more he saw what was available, the more confused about what he should purchase he became.A lot of these guys got information overload & ended up buying nothing.

I am really trying to NOT let that happen here,but I have to tell you it's getting close.

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Tim in Phoenix

· #5 · May 16, 2006

Scott

The M8000 and M9000, introduced in 1992, had some numerous and confusing reworks and redesigns of the neckboards due to high failure rates on the early stuff; tube arcs would kill the transistors and some ICs. At one point, all shipment of Marquees was halted for a month so they could fix these issues. The engineers learned that they could fire a laser into the electron gun of a running tube and have 'tube arcs on demand' to better study the problems and arrive at fixes. We cannot offer you M8000/9000 mods unless we supply newer boards as well, and that would take a set of MP Super mods up to around $4K as we cannot resell your original boards.

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Scott Lyons

Discussion Starter · #6 · May 17, 2006

Thanks Tim:

That is the information that I need to steer me in the right direction for my ultimate goal.The Ultimate goal=M9500LC or LC Ultra,MP Mods, & Lumagen HDP.

Now to decide which of these comes first. Thanks for all the replys.

Scott

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draganm

· #7 · May 17, 2006

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Thanks Tim:

That is the information that I need to steer me in the right direction for my ultimate goal.The Ultimate goal=M9500LC or LC Ultra,MP Mods, & Lumagen HDP.

Now to decide which of these comes first. Thanks for all the replys.

Scott

I say get a MP VIM for now. Then add a set of neck-boards later. In the mean time start accumulating the parts to go 9" LC later. A set of HD10 lenses just sold on flea-bay for $160. the tubes I would try to buy as burned-up and cheap as possible, make sure they are complete with plastic housings!

then it's just a matter of the upper + lower mounting plates = $140. brand new from VDC. One you get all that, send the tubes to VDC and install 3 brand new ones. Call it $4K even assuming you have the tech, skill to put everything together and align the yokes. Keep in mind that yuo will handling very expensive stuff, so if you haven't re-tubed before I would not make this yor first one.

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Curt Palme

· #8 · May 17, 2006

BTW that 9000LC is from March of 1995, so it's one of the later ones. I've sold maybe 3 9000's in the last 3 years and haven't had any issues, but I know Tim doesn't like them due to the issues described above.

Tim, did the later production runs have the mods done?

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Scott Lyons

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 18, 2006

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BTW that 9000LC is from March of 1995, so it's one of the later ones. I've sold maybe 3 9000's in the last 3 years and haven't had any issues, but I know Tim doesn't like them due to the issues described above.

Tim, did the later production runs have the mods done?

Ya Tim, what he said.

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draganm

· #10 · May 18, 2006

the 8000/9000 boards from 1995 are pretty reliable from what i've seen but they're still not eligible for the MP mods. For one trhing, the video input module doesn't have the Blue Gamma correction circuit found on all 8110/8500/9500 VIM's. That right there is a important consideration IMO.

I would love to have an 8111 + a cheap 9000 with good tubes. I would combine them to produce a reference quality display.

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