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Multi-zone audio w/ revolution?

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Is it possible to use the 7.1 outputs of the M-Audio revolution as 4 stereo zones to drive a multi-room audio system? I would imagine if it is not already possible that it could be done in software. Ideally you could drive each zone with a separate input, but that would appear to be a little more difficult than driving four zones with the same input.


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The ASIO driver allows for that but the software isnt there for it afaik . Who wants to use a multitracking software to listen to music anyways :p
Mastiff is the reigning Czar of Multi-zone:


Multi-zone playback: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=223505


More on Mastiff's HTPC and multi-zone playback: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=224640
And it looks like he's using multiple sound cards, which is what JRiver's software supports.


matt
AFAIK j. river media center 9 also allows u to set up multiple stereo zones using 1 soundcard. The front l/r channels would be zone 1, and the rear l/r would be zone 2. Don't know if it allows a 3rd zone w/1 soundcard. Probably doesn't allow a 4th zone for cards like the revo that have 8 channels. I also don't know what apis can be used this way(asio, ds, waveout, etc). U can download a trial version to check it out.
Mastiff is very good about answering questions if you post in one of his threads. I think he has something wired to his bedside to wake him up when someone posts.
I have used the multi-zone feature in MC9 to run multiple zones on a M-Audio 410. It works, however, the issue is volume control. You must manually control the volume for each zone via the M-A control panel slider for that zone. I do not get volume control through MC9


--Caleb


PS If you get replies from Mastiff or others in other threads, please post the kink to those threads here, so we can follow along.


Thanks
I've successfully used MC9 and a Delta 410 card to run multiple zones, but mostly as a proof-of-concept. I suspect it would be the same with the Revo as it shares a similar driver. Each stereo pair is seen by MC9 as a separate audio device, so each pair can be assigned as a zone. Playback to multiple zones, even with digital effects applied, was flawless on a PIII 1 GHz machine.


Aside from volume control (which wasn't a problem in my setup, b/c I'm using local amplification and volume control in each zone), the biggest problem is the inability to synchronize playback between the zones. Until this is possible in J River's software, you're still stuck with using conventional methods of audio distribution. IMO, synchronized zones is important for creating a "party" mode throughout the house.


Rumor has it that J. River is working on this feature, but we'll let Jim comment on that.


It may also be possible to "stream" audio over the LAN in the same way that web radio does, so that each local zone could tune into the same channel and get synchronized playback. I have only a conceptual understanding of this, so perhaps someone can comment on the specifics.


- Ken
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Aside from volume control (which wasn't a problem in my setup, b/c I'm using local amplification and volume control in each zone), the biggest problem is the inability to synchronize playback between the zones. Until this is possible in J River's software, you're still stuck with using conventional methods of audio distribution. IMO, synchronized zones is important for creating a "party" mode throughout the house.


Rumor has it that J. River is working on this feature, but we'll let Jim comment on that.


- Ken
...oh yes, I forgot about THAT problem. This is a real limitation! I also hope M-Audio will address this need for "matrix switching" of SW inputs in future drivers. In the mean time, J River is likely our best hope :)


--Caleb
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I also hope M-Audio will address this need for "matrix switching" of SW inputs in future drivers.
Caleb raises another good point. The M-Audio cards work well for routing sound from a software player (e.g., MC9) to different outputs, but they don't work as well with an INPUT from another source outside of the HTPC (e.g., a CD player in another zone). True multizone pre-amps act like matrix switches, in that they can route any any input to any output, or any input to multiple outputs. AFAIK, the Delta cards and MC9 cannot handle inputs from external sources as separate zones. (If I'm wrong on this point, let me know!)


One possible way of thinking about MC9 and the Revo, based on their current capabilities, is as a multi-channel source. For example, it can be used to stream multiple playlists simultaneously to different outputs, allowing a user to select an output to hear a particular playlist. You can set up one stereo pair to play classical music and another to play acid jazz. Selecting an output gets you a genre. Sort of DIY musak.
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Caleb raises another good point. The M-Audio cards work well for routing sound from a software player (e.g., MC9) to different outputs,.
...yes, BUT...as you said earlier, only to one output per sortware source, i.e music from any zone of any SW jukebox player can only be played out from the card to a single "mixer" pair (for this discussion that means to a single stereo zone).


Infact, I believe the M-A cards 410, 1010 can do some matrix switching of Hardware Sources (Non-HTPC), but cannot with SW (HTPC) sources. I may be wrong about the HW, but am correct about the SW.


It would/should be so easy for them to add this matrix functionality:mad:


--Caleb
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you should send a mail there :

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Thanks. I have been in contact with M-A. Here is a thread about that and the prospect that M-A may be trying to tailor to our needs:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0&pagenumber=1


--Caleb
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