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I have a H20 HD receiver with Total Choice and HBO, and I used to get channel 70 and 509 (HBO HD) without having to have the HD Package. It even says on the D*web site that if you subscribe to HBO or Showtime Unlimited the HD channels for those networks are FREE.


Now I don't get either channel and the reps say I have to get the HD Package to get the channels!


When did this change? This crap D* is stating to pull is getting old......
 

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I think it changed early March when D* changed there programing packages and pricing.
 

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Is it still on Channel 509 for those without the HD package?
 

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Originally Posted by Matt L /forum/post/0


Hey, I still get HBO HD on 70 with no HD package. If I loose it I will seriously look at loosing D. BTW, I've been a D sub for about 7 years.

Why? the HD pack is only 10 bucks? plus once you get the new Mpeg4 boxes you don't have a choice. I don't think you will find any other provider giving HD-HBO with out having to sub to their HD package.
 

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I was getting ch. 70 and 509 on my Samsung TS360 and when I switched to the H20 the channels went away. Maybe it's the box you have that still allows the channels w/o the HD Access pkg. (?)
 

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I was getting ch. 70 and 509 on my Samsung TS360 and when I switched to the H20 the channels went away. Maybe it's the box you have that still allows the channels w/o the HD Access pkg. (?)

More likely the "upgrade" to the H20 triggered the change(s) to your programming package (along with committing you for another 1-2yrs.)
 

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Why? the HD pack is only 10 bucks? plus once you get the new Mpeg4 boxes you don't have a choice. I don't think you will find any other provider giving HD-HBO with out having to sub to their HD package.

Because I'm already paying $10 a month for HBO, I've had the HD pack when it first came out and there was nothing there I wanted. There will be nothing I'm willing to pay for when the "improved" HD pack is rolled out. For what ever reason I hate Discovery channel documentaries, I don't watch TNT or ESPN. I don't need the Weather Channel in HD, and none of the reports of what will be offered has changed my mind. Plus, they will have to seriously have to twist my arm to get the new HR 20 into my home unless the shortcomings are fixed.


I've had HD for 6 or 7 years now, the novelty has worn off. If I'm not going to watch it I have no desire to pay for it. As it is I only watch a handful of the hundred plus channels I pay for now. I'd love ala-carte.
 

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Because I'm already paying $10 a month for HBO, I've had the HD pack when it first came out and there was nothing there I wanted. There will be nothing I'm willing to pay for when the "improved" HD pack is rolled out. For what ever reason I hate Discovery channel documentaries, I don't watch TNT or ESPN. I don't need the Weather Channel in HD, and none of the reports of what will be offered has changed my mind. Plus, they will have to seriously have to twist my arm to get the new HR 20 into my home unless the shortcomings are fixed.


I've had HD for 6 or 7 years now, the novelty has worn off. If I'm not going to watch it I have no desire to pay for it. As it is I only watch a handful of the hundred plus channels I pay for now. I'd love ala-carte.

You sound like my buddy. "There's nothing on that new list I care for". Well then, I guess you don't care for TV period. I mean...really....what other stations would you expect to see them roll out? I'm not trying to bash you, as a little of the novelty of HD has worn off for me as well (as I tend to watch my 36" SONY SD TV for most my viewing these days), but if none of those channels interest you, then why are you hanging out in the HD forum?
 

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Outside of network TV, I think what D* has in HD, and what they will have here shortly, pretty much covers the majority of the channels people watch:


History


Espn I & II


Discovery


NG


Sci-Fi


TnT


RSN's


Movie channels (premiums)


Those are all pretty much the mainstream normal channels...now if something like Lifetime-HD is what you're waiting for, well than thats your problem.
 

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Originally Posted by noleintheburg /forum/post/0


Outside of network TV, I think what D* has in HD, and what they will have here shortly, pretty much covers the majority of the channels people watch:


History


Espn I & II


Discovery


NG


Sci-Fi


TnT


RSN's


Movie channels (premiums)


Those are all pretty much the mainstream normal channels...now if something like Lifetime-HD is what you're waiting for, well than thats your problem.

My thoughts too
 

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Because I'm already paying $10 a month for HBO, I've had the HD pack when it first came out and there was nothing there I wanted. There will be nothing I'm willing to pay for when the "improved" HD pack is rolled out. For what ever reason I hate Discovery channel documentaries, I don't watch TNT or ESPN. I don't need the Weather Channel in HD, and none of the reports of what will be offered has changed my mind. Plus, they will have to seriously have to twist my arm to get the new HR 20 into my home unless the shortcomings are fixed.


I've had HD for 6 or 7 years now, the novelty has worn off. If I'm not going to watch it I have no desire to pay for it. As it is I only watch a handful of the hundred plus channels I pay for now. I'd love ala-carte.

I understand but you have to remember the majority of the people (including me) got the free H10 years ago in order to have the OTA-HD. D* figured that out and has now put the clamps on not requiring HD acess. Universal HD and NDNet movies are well worth the 10 dollars if you like movies.
 

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You sound like my buddy. "There's nothing on that new list I care for". Well then, I guess you don't care for TV period. I mean...really....what other stations would you expect to see them roll out? I'm not trying to bash you, as a little of the novelty of HD has worn off for me as well (as I tend to watch my 36" SONY SD TV for most my viewing these days), but if none of those channels interest you, then why are you hanging out in the HD forum?

Because I like shows like "Lost", "Heroes" and a number of others. Most of my HD is OTA network stuff.


As I said to someone else over in the HD TiVo forum who raised the same question, I prefer to have a life rather than watch someone else's. To each his own....
 

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I wonder if D* is going to find a way for us not to get OTA HD on the local channels in our area if we use one of their OTA tuners (like the H20). They will find a way to down-rez the stuff we should get for free!
 

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Because I like shows like "Lost", "Heroes" and a number of others. Most of my HD is OTA network stuff.


As I said to someone else over in the HD TiVo forum who raised the same question, I prefer to have a life rather than watch someone else's. To each his own....

Completely understandable. Then why hang out on forums that are discussing National Channels in HD? Why not discuss "Heroes" and "Lost" in those threads and keep the OTA Network discussions to your local OTA thread? I like those shows too, but am also interested in all I can find out regarding D*'s plans for their HD Package, which is why I read these threads. Sorry, I'm not pro D*, and the only reason I have them is it's my only option for HD. When I heard folks cutting the list of channels D* will add, I always have to ask "What do you suggest they do"
 

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Originally Posted by DanHuff /forum/post/0


I wonder if D* is going to find a way for us not to get OTA HD on the local channels in our area if we use one of their OTA tuners (like the H20). They will find a way to down-rez the stuff we should get for free!

Actually they have done the opposite: making the HR20 pull in OTA better than any tuner I've had in the past.


And if you want local OTA for "free", get your own tuner (or an HDTV) and put up an antenna.
 
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