I am really surprised how great these EP-6 hour speed tapes(JVC3800u and 3900u) are burning NFL and College game DVDs on the Panny. I should have recorded them SP but 3 years ago I was too stupid to do so. Nevertheless they are being burned great PQ by the stud E-80 unit. I am playing them back on the Panny XP-30 player on the Sony XBR-800 40 inch which is as good as plasma- Wanna bet? I do know that the Sony screen will not burn out in 6-8 years as plasma will. Oh well we will all have new TV's by then anyway.