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Okay, here is my set-up and settings.


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45"x80" Parkland (Matte White 1.0) Screen (Soon to be replaced w/Stewart Perforated)

PT-L500U Projector

Panasonic RP82 DVD Player

Custom Broadcast Grade 40' Component Cable

DVD Player and Projector powered from cheap-o "Clean Circuitry" Power Strips.


10'8" Throw Distance to PT-L500U

Projector is fitted with a 67mm (with at 62->67 step up ring) Hoya UV/Haze filter (it's just a piece of multicoated clear optical glass, that way I don't ever have to cap the projector or clean the lens)


My viewing with the projector is about 95% DVD so I really only have it calibrated for that.


Component Input

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Picture Preset "CINEMA 2"


Picture Menu

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Contrast +2

Bright -1

Color +1

Tint 0

Sharpness -3

Color Temp -1

ever-so-slight "de focus" to the left.

Lamp Low

Fan Normal


I found that the Color Temp -1 had by far the greatest effect on zeroing color bias, creating a nearly dead-on 18% middle grey, and all but nullifying the reported "green" issue.


I usually watch with two art deco up-firing torchiere lights (located behind the seating position) dimmed to about 5% of the their total brightness. This helps black levels and doesn't have any 'wash-out' effect on the screen.


I would recommend that anyone with a Matte White 1.0 type screen keep the "Advanced" menu setting on 0. The effects of the "Advanced" options are far to severe if your not compensating for a screen surface or some kind of filtration.


It's really a lovely projector, and with the exception of a super deep black, it creates a very watchable picture. The fan is a little loud for my taste, although I really don't notice it that often. At a 13' viewing distance I NEVER see screendoor, and only on poorly mastered DVDs do I ever notice anything that looks like VB (usually it's mpeg blocking). Yes, the VB is there if I get up really close and scrutinize the image (who watches from 3 feet away?!?!?), but the flicker tweak has essentially made it a non-issue from any distance greater than 7'.


Properly set-up this projector will easily compete with the images thrown from the InFocus 5700 & 7200 I demoed (1 hour with each) at Magnolia Audio & Video. Magnolia claimed that both their Infocus projectors were professionally calibrated, although there's the chance they could have been tampered with. The PT-L500U has no rainbows or color wheel whine making it the best bang for the buck for me by far.


My contact at Panasonic told me that a colorist at Universal (the person who operates the films to tape telecine) consulted on the color set-up for one of the presets on the PT-L500U. After looking at them all for some time now, I'd bet the colorists notes ended up being used primarily on the "Cinema 2" preset.


I like that you can store settings in MEMORY 1,2,3 for each preset so if anyone out the wants to try my settings you can save your settings first so you don't have to overwrite your own.


My disclaimer: your milage may vary- this is the only PT-L500U I've spent any serious amount of time with and I don't know if you'll get the same results. I've heard that ISF calibration is done per each individual projector, and that they don't prescribe to a one-setting fits all approach. This same is definitely true with professional CRT displays. The phosphors will deteriorate at different rates so often 2 of the same CRT screens will require different settings in order to match.


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Illya,


Thank you for posting your settings. UPS tracking shows I should get mine delivered today. I painted a wall yesterday with Behr Silver Screen. I'm going to watch "Lost in Translation" as my first DVD tonight!


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I spend more time tweaking and setting more than putting the panny to shine, from component dvd player, DVI dvd/hdtv now to HTPC.... "sign". so i signed up Blockbuster unlimited rental this weekend, watched 7 movies and put 200h on the panny so far.... :D.... now, life is good.


Anyway, DVD software made a huge different in PQ. Lost in translation is mediocre but better than LOTR 3. It's plain horrible. I won't be buying any DVD but renting, at least not until HD DVD.
 

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i've got my panny 500 connected via DVI from my HTPC , and i noticed not much changing on the panasonic is needed, i only changed the contrast and brightness a little. I noticed that when using HTPC, most of the settings u have to change would be the overlay of the video card.


anyway i will try these settings and see how it looks like vis DVI



anyway if anybody cares heres some pics...

http://home.t-online.de/home/5200341...0001/htpc1.jpg
http://home.t-online.de/home/5200341...0001/htpc3.jpg
 

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I'm yet to try the DVI input. But I understand that some adjustments get locked out at that point. It's true that the projector is almost ready to go straight out of the box, something I didn't expect! Tonight I watched a lousy movie, but the presentation was still terrific!


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I.,


After lurking on this forum and the screen forum for couple of weeks prior to purchasing the 500U, I really had no idea what kind level of black I was going to get. I just have two coats of Silver Screen on regular sheetrock and I was very pleased at the "blackness" of the blacks I was seeing. It was far from ideal setting since the walls and ceilings are still an off-white color. The only thing I did was switch the bulb from high to low and watched LinT. I'm no expert on setting up HT to get it up to full potential of the PJ, but for the out-of-box experience, it was great.


I was going to ceiling mount it about 11 feet from the wall, but I had the PJ on a stool at 8 feet last night. I like a smaller image so I'm seriously considering mounting it at that distance. Maybe I'll want a larger image, I don't know. But the 8 foot throw seemed really good for my tastes last night.


It will be fun to get it mounted and get the cables all organized!


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Has anyone talked to the panny people about the vb problem?

I have talk to a rep that said that faint greyish vertical lines in not normal and I might need to send in my ae500 to get serviced. He also tryed to talk me through the flicker adj and I let him know that I have already done that.


I sold my 300u and it did not have this problem.
 

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trailergod,


I so glad the settings worked for you. I think that on my matte white (parkland) screen the colors & flesh tones are really accurate.


The great thing about having accurate color rendition is when colors are deliberately "off" for stylistic choices you can not only tell, you can exactly how far "off" was intended. When a monitor (or projector) isn't correctly set up, challenging (or unusual) scenes don't look bad- they look horrid!


A perfect example is the movie "Paycheck". BTW, It's a bit unusual because two cinematographers are credited. I watched it tonight, many scenes have subtlety skewed color palettes. It all looked great on the Panny!


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Well its worth a try. I will pay for s&h from tx to Il.
The fact reminds it's a current issue with LCD panel, you can't get rid of it. Anyway, let us know how it turns out cause i live in Dallas TX... probably drop by and pick up a new one "wish"...:D


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Illya, Try wonderland from val kramer, i think the color tone is way off on this one.


[edit] add : cautious : wonderland has strong drug, sex and voilent scence, don't watch that with your family (kids).


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I am going to call back and get it all set up tomorrrow. I will be leaving to Orlando for a week and the panny rep say that it only takes about 4-5 business days to fix or the correct the problem. Then it will be shiped right back out.
 

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gooni,


Maybe you can find some offensive material (VB offensive that is) and mark the VB areas with a post-it on your screen border/frame. Then when you get you PJ back you can compare the exact frame and exact place(s) to see if the problem was fixed.


Keep us posted.


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The differences in the picture modes...I forgot what they were.

Cinema 1 and 2 uses some sort of brightness regulation in the image right?

I take it normal is with no regulation.

What does the natural do?
 

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DarrinH wrote:


"What does the natural do?"


Umm, I'm not really sure. If I recall correctly, it seemed to skew the colors so everything goes a tad warm. Natural just didn't look right to me, it warmed up the blacks and whites.. Kind of like Cinema 1 does, except it seems mostly to effect the mid and quarter tones.


After dialing in my settings with Cinema 2 I don't do any tweeking anymore.


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In case you want to know, after using a AE700 for a few days, I am still keeping my 500. After the useful info from this thread, it didn't seem worth the $ for anything else.
 

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Fried,


The 500U is an amazing machine. I have it set on "Dynamic" just to give a little pop, even though my room is light controlled.

But DVI is the way to go.


One suggestion to all 500U owners:

Many DVD's are in 2:35. Try, or I should say...RUN, and get a Panamorph lens. You'll thank me. It's incredible! It's "true" wide screen. You'll see a difference for the better.

I bought mine used for $500 shipped and the money well spent. :D


I'm going to take some pics later and I'll post them.
 

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Still love mine after 1 year of ownership.

I've toyed around with going back to CRT simply because I get restless with projectors the way some guys get with cars, but the AE500 just fires up and looks great night after night.


If I could fix the VB I'd be really happy...



Doesn't really surprise me that the AE700 isn't that much better as it has the same Epson panel.
 
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