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***EDIT 1/4/2014

Some newer photos taken with Canon T3i.  Still learning the camera but these are better than the previous set.

 

Picture from doorway entering Theater.



 

Entering the Theater with lights on



 

 

Similar photo with less light



 

 

Similar photo a bit over exposed so you can see everything a bit clearer - but colors are off.



 

 

From just behind second row seating.



 

 

From directly in front of center of screen facing seats.  In the back right you can see the fabric door I built to conceal the A/V rack.



 

 

Angled shot from the front.



 

 

 

 

*** EDIT 8/2/2012

Some Finished Photos



 



 



 



 



 

***Edit 8/21/2012

 

Equipment List

AV Rack Equip:

Main Receiver - Pioneer VSX 1121

Secondary Receiver (used as amp) - HK AVR 120

Home built HTPC

Probox DAS - 8TB

PS3

XBOX 360

APC-UPS

 

Speakers:

LCR - Aperion 3 X 5T Intimus Towers

In wall side surrounds - 4X Home Theater Direct HDW65

Rear Surrounds - 2X Aperion Intimus 4BP Bipole

 

Projector:

Panasonic PT-AE8000U

 

*** EDIT 8/17/2011


Some dimension changes. Also changed design of acoustic panels.


*** EDIT 4/23/2011


Editing the first post to start thread with final design decision. Had gone through several designs and this my friends is the THIRD "Final" design
. Once complete, I will use this first post to summarize the final product and of course final photos.


So Here it is the Third and "final" ...final design... subject to change without notice.








Electrical Layout:


Screen size: 120" wide 2.35:1 AT Screen

Sound: 7.2 surround

Equipment list: (Reserved as this may change)

Color scheme: Burgundy and Tan (subject to change)


Final Pictures: (Reserved)
 

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Hey Everyone,


Been a long while since I've been to the site and posted. Lots going on including a move to a new home in a new state for a new job.


Anyway, last theater was my first "movie theater" and you can see the pics in my signature.


I have a new house with no theater so an almost blank slate to work. The theater will be in the room above the garage. All walls are finished already. If possible, I would really like not to rip out the drywall.


I have attached a sketch of the room including dimensions. I have some ideas on what I will do, but I am also open for ideas and really would like your input! The two long walls have unfinished areas on the other side. Furthest wall is an exterior wall, and the entrance is on the left of the near wall.


Current thinking - although not set in stone yet:

1.78:1 screen - toying with AT

Stage in front

7.1 surround

2 rows seating (although not set in stone)

Color Scheme: TBD although I will be ripping out the current carpet and installing "real" theater carpet.


right now the room has exercise equipment and bunch of other things including all my electronics. Once I move all that out, I'll take some photos and post them.


I hope to use this thread for 2 reasons:


1) Photo/written journal of the progress

2) Info gathering/idea sharing with the great minds of the board



Here is the other side looking from the outside wall.


I will post some ideas but want some input. My only option (I think) is to have the false screen wall on the outside wall (where the window is). I'd like to have 2 rows seating, but if I orient the screen wall on the outside wall, I am not fond of the idea of entering in and then having to step up on a riser, then down again to the first row. Any suggestions? on how I can do this in an eloquent way?


-MJ

 

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Here is a couple sketch ideas for the room - don't mind color scheme it's just for idea purposes. I haven't picked color scheme yet and not sure what architecture to add. I may add a stage and recess the screen which will allow me to move the seats up a bit more in the room.

 

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With your room length, you can certainly get an AT screen and two rows of at least 3 seats/row in there. Something similar to your last drawing with riser (or similar) should work.


Which way does your door swing?


Have you thought about your screen width and where top corners would end up based on your sloped ceiling?


You have good room width but it appears your max screen width will be limited by the sloped ceiling, which will also affect your screen height, and then also impact your riser height.


Knowing the angle of the sloped sides (or just measure the distance on the ceiling between where the two sloped walls meet ceiling) would help with suggesting screen size and subsequent seating/riser suggestions.
 

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Thanks for the reply and the great questions. the model/sketch is pretty accurate in terms of measurements. The screen is 100" wide at 1.78 aspect ratio. Height from floor to bottom of screen is 36" and viewing distances would require the riser to be 12" high based on the riser calculator. I would then need one step as shown in the last drawing. Tried to answer your questions below.

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With your room length, you can certainly get an AT screen and two rows of at least 3 seats/row in there. Something similar to your last drawing with riser (or similar) should work.


Which way does your door swing? Swings out to the hallway so not an issue with clearance.


Have you thought about your screen width and where top corners would end up based on your sloped ceiling? I have played around with different widths and 100" would allow for a reasonable riser height for a screen this big - you are correct in that the slope impedes going higher on the wall. I thought about a 2.35 ratio screen but I'm not sold on that aspect size.


You have good room width but it appears your max screen width will be limited by the sloped ceiling, which will also affect your screen height, and then also impact your riser height. Very true; however, I think I'll be OK if I limit the width of the seating (thus width of riser).


Knowing the angle of the sloped sides (or just measure the distance on the ceiling between where the two sloped walls meet ceiling) would help with suggesting screen size and subsequent seating/riser suggestions. Don't know the angle, but the wall is 5' and goes up to 8' (see attached sketch). the ceiling would be 7.2' from top of riser step, and 7' from top of riser.

 

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Do a search for the build thread by "Sands_at_Pier147". His room is very similar to yours. There is another thread I'm trying to find that might give you some ideas too.
 

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HI am not fond of the idea of entering in and then having to step up on a riser, then down again to the first row. Any suggestions? on how I can do this in an eloquent way?

Not sure about eloquent - but maybe elegant.



I'm doing something like that, and I like the way it looks / works - but its a detached structure, not sure if I'd like it that way inside the house:






(an older picture, but you get the idea)
 

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Do a search for the build thread by "Sands_at_Pier147". His room is very similar to yours. There is another thread I'm trying to find that might give you some ideas too.
Great will do. I tried searching for something similar, but with so many threads - hard to find.

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Not sure about eloquent - but maybe elegant.
Yes Yes elegant. I wrote the wrong word
 

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I was bored this morning and threw together a scope set-up based on your room dimensions:




That one's drawn with 120" wide screen. I'm thinking you could do anywhere from 110"-120" and it would work great, if that's an option for you. Unless you really want the side panels you drew for aesthetics, I'd be more inclined to just do a full AT false wall and maximize your screen size.


I saw that you calculated your screen bottom at 36" from the floor. That may be putting the screen pretty high based on general rule of thumb that you want your first row eyes at around 1/3 the height of the screen (as measured from the screen bottom). If you consider normal seated eye height is around 36-38", your right at the bottom.


Based on above pic with 12' front row and 17' back row, would yield a 12" riser.


Just some food for thought.
 

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I was bored this morning and threw together a scope set-up based on your room dimensions:


That one's drawn with 120" wide screen. I'm thinking you could do anywhere from 110"-120" and it would work great, if that's an option for you. Unless you really want the side panels you drew for aesthetics, I'd be more inclined to just do a full AT false wall and maximize your screen size.


I saw that you calculated your screen bottom at 36" from the floor. That may be putting the screen pretty high based on general rule of thumb that you want your first row eyes at around 1/3 the height of the screen (as measured from the screen bottom). If you consider normal seated eye height is around 36-38", your right at the bottom.


Based on above pic with 12' front row and 17' back row, would yield a 12" riser.


Just some food for thought.

Wow - thanks for the effort and input. I did monkey around with a larger width screen at 2.35 aspect ratio at first but I am not totally sold on that format (I could be convinced). I could do a AT screen as well - an idea to chew on. The previous design I posted with stage and side panels are basically for aesthetics - to add a little flair to the screen wall.


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Here is more renders. The first two are 1.78 screen ratio. Third is 2.35 AT screen ratio. Problem I'm having with the 2.35 design is space for the candy counter and popcorn machine due to the seating distances needed.


 

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Ohhh, so NOW you want a popcorn machine AND a candy counter in there as well huh???



Just my opinion, but I'd try to keep those out of the room if possible and concentrate on getting the optimal screen and seating set-up.


Do you have room outside your rear wall to make an area for those?
 

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Ohhh, so NOW you want a popcorn machine AND a candy counter in there as well huh???



Just my opinion, but I'd try to keep those out of the room if possible and concentrate on getting the optimal screen and seating set-up.


Do you have room outside your rear wall to make an area for those?

Well... the candy counter and popcorn machine already exist (Concession Stand) - see my sig. Brought them with me from my previous theater. No room outside but I'll think about an alternate. Probably will keep it in the room somewhere though ...
 

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That's a very nice concession stand, great job on it! I was wondering what that rear bump out was in your last renderings but didn't make the connection.


Good luck with whatever plan you decide to forge ahead with!
 

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I know how close one sits to the screen is a matter of personal preference (for the most part) but on a 120" 2.35 screen - how close is too close?
 

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Finally emptied the room (for the most part) and here are some photos. These are the "Before" pics. I'm still working out the details for the plan at this point, but getting close.







 

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Here are some sketchup models I've been messing with. I have decided to go 2.35 with the aspect ratio. Weighing the options with an AT screen and also screen wall design. Below are 2 slightly different ideas.



 

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Well - I finished another project on the Honey-do list - building a window seat in our den. With that done, I have been able to focus a bit more on designing the MysticalJet 2.0 theater.


Here is the "final" design concept for the theater. Here is some of the basic info:

120" width 2.35:1 AT screen

2 rows seating with 18" bar on back of the 12" riser

7.2 surround - Plan is to have all speakers hidden

bass shakers (2 in each couch configuration)

In wall AV Rack

The entire build will be DIY except for some initial electrical work.


I will eventually get to listing all AV equipment - some I have, some I don't, and some I'm not sure yet.


Below is a look the final 3 dimensional design. Carpet color not at all accurate (not sure yet what I'll go with). The theater color will be a dark burgundy, tan, and black. This model is not accurate but will give an idea to design and color concept.




Here's a view from just behind the bar.



another one



There will be 3 circuits

2 X 15A

1 X 20A


1 X 15A will control the outlets and lights (already exists)

1 X 20A will control AV equipment and projector

1 X 15A for popcorn machine (not shown in below schematic)

Here is the electrical schematics


I will need to add the Can Lights. Currently there are 2 standard in the room, I am going with LED Can lights - less power consumption and "greener."



Here is a top view of of the plan with the layout of the AV wiring (speaker, HDMI).



Another top view with the measurements for the key elements.



Well - that's it for now. I will need to get an electrician in to add the 20A and additional 15A circuit. As I progress, I'll be keeping this thread updated.
 
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