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Projector is a JVC NX5
135" MP Severtson cinema white MP ( I LOVE the screen material, it's fantastic) in a elitevision frame (saved 2.5K doing that lol)
OPPO 203
PS4 pro
Xbox one X

Marantz 7702mk2 (by Summer, Monolith HTP-1)
D-Sonic 1000 x 7
Class D audio 470c x 4

Speakers are JTR 215's
Custom JTR 210 center (will be changed to a 215RM at some point)
4 x single 8s
4 x volt 6s for Atmos.

Subs are 4 x 24" mach 5s
2 x JTR OS pros
1 x Ricci's SKRams
6 x buttkicker lfe (2 per seat)
6 x clark Synthesis platinum's (2 per seat)

Sub amps
Speaker Power SP2-12000 (24's)
Crest 7.5 (OS pros)
Sanway FP14000 x 2 (B&C's and SKram)
NX6000 (buttkickers)
NX3000 (clarks)
Monoprice 150 x 2 (clarks)

A fiber optic ceiling will be installed at some point, but probably not till fall (done now)

http://imgur.com/gallery/KKnGsjc
missed this one inn the imgur post. Lets you see how they were done.



Anyways, Im wondering if I should be building a stage or not for the front and a riser for the seating in the rear.
The room is on a wood subfloor and will be carpet. (built one)

The EQ rack needed to be straight behind me for a few reasons, which I ended up really liking, just a clean look.

Things left to do: Build shelves for the rear speakers... need to wait and see how the new theater seats will be before I do anything.
Adding a SKram horn sub to the front (in between the 2 x OS pros) and 2 x 21DS115's in 6CF boxes VNF in the rear (both built, just need to paint the boxes)
All pro amps are the the room behind where the projector is.









Shakers per seat.
 

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Three seats in the room, with the AT screen offers up a lot of potential for getting seating away from all speakers.

There's a third option, with a sand filled stage behind the AT screen wall.

With three seats in that space, have you considered a plain front AT wall, and putting some detailing on the side walls? I plan to eliminate columns, and a visible stage, and give the side walls some interesting fabric panels. Lots of traditional elements are getting the heave-ho and the savings dumped elsewhere, like on hard drives for the server.
 

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Three seats in the room, with the AT screen offers up a lot of potential for getting seating away from all speakers.

There's a third option, with a sand filled stage behind the AT screen wall.

With three seats in that space, have you considered a plain front AT wall, and putting some detailing on the side walls? I plan to eliminate columns, and a visible stage, and give the side walls some interesting fabric panels. Lots of traditional elements are getting the heave-ho and the savings dumped elsewhere, like on hard drives for the server.
Im going to be doing large absorption panels around the room, similar to columns, just full of rockwool. I currently have similar in my room now.

Im not really convinced I need a stage up front, Im going to be using 2 of the horns as nearfield subs... Id like to do a boss setup as Ive got 4 x 18s doing nothing lol.

I guess if I was doing 2 level seating, the stage would make more sense to get the gear up higher.

Just more curious as to why people do the stage, if not just for looks.
 

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You might want to go easy on that treatment. Easy to suck the high frequency energy out of the room.

The stage is:

a) A visual design element.

b) It might be hiding something....

c) There to be provide some isolation for speakers and provide a solid base for the front speakers.

d) Depending on it's design and it's execution, it might be wicking up light coming off the screen, and helping
with maintaining a projector's contrast ratio.

And yes, it might be something that one might eliminate.
 

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Ya, Im doing 8 panels, and the rear will have some diffusers, so its not too much for the room, I could run double that in that sized room.
I dont think Im going to do a stage, but will do a 1 foot riser in the back so I can put my electrical connections, and my 18s for the boss build.
Im excited to be on a wood subfloor vs a concrete slab, also having a AT screen for the first time!

I will post some more once we get started!
 

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I think I'm doing something similar as you said? But I'm having 7 panels in one side and about 4 on the other because the other side have the door entrance.

What you see is one panel just with the fabric and the other one have rockwool inside.


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You can fit in more visually more, but I doubt you need more, if that ends up as a single row configuration. I would come at this by looking at treating first row reflections,
off of the ceiling and walls.

After toying with some tactile feedback , and experiencing a couple of home theaters with it, I ended up with a D-Box. That is going to be recessed and slightly rebuilt for the next room,
to get feet off the ground, and on the platform. Near field subs was something I really wasn't impressed with, nor were Bass Shakers. Bass Shakers were greatly improved by a 20 Hz cut
off filter.

If that's to be a one row room, have you considered the back wall could be acoustically transparent?

I also wonder about sound leaking from the room, so I do see where a low riser could be all about tactile feedback, while not having those subs disturbing the rest of the house?
 

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Yuan, you could hide the door in the panels, or by the panels.

I will be doing panels also, but my plans are to use some Unistrut to attach my panels to, so they can be removed, to accommodate future upgrades, hide wiring runs, and be able to tuck electrical
outlets up and under the panels (which won't be extended to the floor), so they are hidden, but there. (Metal conduit for the 120V runs. for safety.) I also plan to use the panels off the walls, to introduce
some LED RGB tape lights to add down lighting. The panels themselves are visual, but the acoustical treatments beneath will be independent of them.

Another big plus of fabric panels to me, is how one can visually eliminate obstacles from a room, while allowing for access.
 

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Yuan, you could hide the door in the panels, or by the panels.



I will be doing panels also, but my plans are to use some Unistrut to attach my panels to, so they can be removed, to accommodate future upgrades, hide wiring runs, and be able to tuck electrical

outlets up and under the panels (which won't be extended to the floor), so they are hidden, but there. (Metal conduit for the 120V runs. for safety.) I also plan to use the panels off the walls, to introduce

some LED RGB tape lights to add down lighting. The panels themselves are visual, but the acoustical treatments beneath will be independent of them.



Another big plus of fabric panels to me, is how one can visually eliminate obstacles from a room, while allowing for access.
Yep I plan to also do panels on the doors they won't be exactly the same as the other side but is better than nothing, my panels are also hang to the walls and I can remove them if I want

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what's the gain of this screen?
1.3 gain. I had a few people that I talk to quite a bit say how good it was for the money. Honestly, dealing with them was awesome, really great at answering questions etc.
Its delivered to my US/CAN boarder shipper, so I still have to go pick it up.
 

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You can fit in more visually more, but I doubt you need more, if that ends up as a single row configuration. I would come at this by looking at treating first row reflections,
off of the ceiling and walls.

After toying with some tactile feedback , and experiencing a couple of home theaters with it, I ended up with a D-Box. That is going to be recessed and slightly rebuilt for the next room,
to get feet off the ground, and on the platform. Near field subs was something I really wasn't impressed with, nor were Bass Shakers. Bass Shakers were greatly improved by a 20 Hz cut
off filter.

If that's to be a one row room, have you considered the back wall could be acoustically transparent?

I also wonder about sound leaking from the room, so I do see where a low riser could be all about tactile feedback, while not having those subs disturbing the rest of the house?
Im a nearfield maniac lol, Im opposite of you, Ive never once been in a theater thats wowed me yet that didnt have nearfield stuff. Its lifeless and boring IMO lol but I also did dB drags for years in my car audio days, so Im a bass nut.

Id love a Dbox and in the future Id kill to have it un my room but this place is a massive set up from our current house, so we have an entire 2400sf house worth of furniture to still buy lol so, that will have to hold up.

Im not concerned about sound leakage though, its a non issue. Ive got 2 other full open systems (though with TVs) 77" oled and 75" qled, that have full surround setups for gaming and movies. The theater is not something that gets used after people go to bed.

What do you mean about a transparent rear wall? As it stands now, its going to have my peerless av27 rack and projector box built in, then havent 100% decided what else. Im always down for good ideas!
 

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I think I'm doing something similar as you said? But I'm having 7 panels in one side and about 4 on the other because the other side have the door entrance.

What you see is one panel just with the fabric and the other one have rockwool inside.


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Ya, like your long floor to ceiling ones. Thats what Im wanting to do. I really like the way you did that, the walls looks great!
 

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Ya, like your long floor to ceiling ones. Thats what Im wanting to do. I really like the way you did that, the walls looks great!
That large ones are hiding the surround speakers and surround back, the black ones are just for cosmetics and half of them are filled with rockwool

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Well to be fair, my big subs are plenty nearfield enough up front, while my system is very capable of beating on one's hearing, if one chooses to ignore sane listening levels. I just find nearfield subs a little gimmicky and maybe not the safest or best way to plant money in a room. I get the fun factor but I wish to be able to enjoy home theater in my retirement years.

Just like an AT screen wall, you can have an acoustically transparent back wall, if you have room depth. One extreme example of what you see, isn't even close to what is there, is this Hollywood room.


The MKG room by hnkudr, has two doors fitted into a very similar fabric panel pattern. (It's a beauty and definitely worth checking out.)
 

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Well to be fair, my big subs are plenty nearfield enough up front, while my system is very capable of beating on one's hearing, if one chooses to ignore sane listening levels. I just find nearfield subs a little gimmicky and maybe not the safest or best way to plant money in a room. I get the fun factor but I wish to be able to enjoy home theater in my retirement years.

Just like an AT screen wall, you can have an acoustically transparent back wall, if you have room depth. One extreme example of what you see, isn't even close to what is there, is this Hollywood room.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFloFpjUhcU

The MKG room by hnkudr, has two doors fitted into a very similar fabric panel pattern. (It's a beauty and definitely worth checking out.)

Ahh ok, I see what you mean. I guess I will have to see how much room is left once I get my gear in there. As it stands, its gonna be pretty packed lol.
The nearfield thing is just a preference, some love it, some hate it lol. The goal of my system is to have enough firepower up front (which I do) to be able to pick and choose when I fire up the rears for kicks.

As of now, there are just so many possibilities to go though cosmically.
 

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That large ones are hiding the surround speakers and surround back, the black ones are just for cosmetics and half of them are filled with rockwool

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Ya, I want to do the same type of thing. Big columns hiding the speakers like that, as well as the traps.
 

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You are barely scratching the surface of fabric panelled walls.

There are a lot of looks I really like, and some of those could be rather inexpensive with a lot less work, with bigger panels. Here's JOSK1's room
(from France). Way less frames, and some RGB LED attitude.
 

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You are barely scratching the surface of fabric panelled walls.

There are a lot of looks I really like, and some of those could be rather inexpensive with a lot less work, with bigger panels. Here's JOSK1's room
(from France). Way less frames, and some RGB LED attitude.
My panels are probably going to be 4 x 8 or feet. the ceiling will have trough led lighting all the way around and the fiber optic star ceiling. There is a bulkhead in the room that I'm going to mimic on the other side, the star ceiling will be between that. I've been looking at tons of different theaters getting ideas. I've got my 1.5K worth of wiring and lighting ready to go lol, the house is on piles under the basement with 7 feet of space underneath, so super easy access for speaker wires, wiring etc. Will make for a really clean install that way. still have to figure out the false wall for the screen and how much room I will have left. Picked up my av27b tonight, got my 2 x 21ds115's in the mail too. The moving company came to do an account for all my HT stuff and the guy nearly fell over laught at the 2 tons of stuff they are gonna have to move! hahahah sucks to be them!
 

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I've seen some theatres / media rooms with a riser with only one set of chairs. I'm a huge fan of it, it actually raises the eye level at the seating position to the screen, so your eye while watching is more in level with the middle of the projector screen, compared to the lower position without a riser. A small advantage but does aid in general comfort while watching.
 
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