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I have a gigabit network, but no NAS or HTPC. The plan is to combine the two and then later split them when I have more money. I'm having a hard time choosing which route to go for hardware.


My needs:

Case with storage for 2-4 HDDs

Ports: DVI / HDMI / Optical / SATA 6Gbps

HTPC requirements: HD playback/streaming / future support for 3D and HD audio

Gaming is a low priority


I have a spare Crucial C300 64 GB SSD and some SATA drives. I plan to replace those HDDs with green versions overtime.

AMD Llano Route 1 :

CPU: AMD A8-3870K 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.99 @ Newegg)

Motherboard: ASRock A75M Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($25.50 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $275.45

(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


AMD Llano Route 2:

CPU: AMD A6-3500 2.1GHz Triple-Core Processor ($68.51 @ NCIX US)

Motherboard: ASRock A75M Micro ATX FM1 Motherboard ($79.98 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($39.99 @ Newegg)

Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($25.50 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $238.97

(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)

Intel Celeron Route 1 :

CPU: Intel Celeron G530 2.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($45.98 @ Outlet PC)

Motherboard: ASRock H67M (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1066 Memory ($21.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6450 1GB Video Card ($29.98 @ NCIX US)

Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($25.50 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $225.99

(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


Intel Celeron Route 2:

CPU: Intel Pentium G630 2.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.99 @ Mac Mall)

Motherboard: ASRock H67M (B3) Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($77.55 @ Newegg)

Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1066 Memory ($21.99 @ Newegg)

Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 6450 1GB Video Card ($29.98 @ NCIX US)

Case: Rosewill R101-P-BK MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($25.50 @ Newegg)

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)

Total: $244.00

(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


I'm really disappointed with the selection for Intel boards under $80. Does anyone know of an Intel 1155 board similar to the ASRock A75M in features and price? The one thing that the Intel builds have going is that 1155 has a lot of upgrade options while FM1 look very slim. If AMD Trinity isn't going to be backwards compatible it looks like a dead end for upgrades on the Llano builds.
 

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H67 and H61 Foxconn MB are very reasonable if not full of features. If gaming is a low prioity, forgo the video card and get a i3-2100.
 

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Originally Posted by jeffkro  /t/1420122/nas-htpc-build#post_22217105


If you go Llano I would go with the AMD A6-3500, its better to have the 65W TDP.

What's he's saying is the A8 is a hot beast.
 

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Was able to get a G530 for $30 shipped. Going to test it in my current rig without a GPU. If its good enough while running a small handful of apps, I'll order the rest of the parts.
 

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Plugged in the Celeron G530 into my gaming rig today to test it out. Removed my video card and 1 stick of 4GB Ram to make it equivalent to what the HTPC specs will be: Celeron G530 / 4 GB Ram / No discrete GPU.


Testing:

Boot-up: 100% cpu usage (granted I didn't do this on a fresh install and was using my default gaming rig configs)

Idle: 0-5% cpu usage

Internet 1080p Playback: 30-38% cpu usage

XBMC 1080p Playback: 5-10% cpu usage (menus ran smooth compared to some other user comments)

Web Browsing: 100% cpu on load up, but smooth afterwards.

Gaming: The Binding of Isaac (smooth) / League of Legends (720p/low settings/60 FPS), didn't get to test other games since power went out during LoL testing haha.


So based on these short run tests, Celeron G530 seems adequate enough for media playback and lightweight gaming. Will probably add a video card later for 3D and bit-streaming support, but need to update my HDTV and audio receiver before that.


Going to order the rest of the parts later this week or next. I'll probably go hunt around for parts/prices some more.
 

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Originally Posted by krazyxazn  /t/1420122/nas-htpc-build#post_22234151


Will probably add a video card later for 3D and bit-streaming support, but need to update my HDTV and audio receiver before that.

I know the G530 doesn't do 3D. But is there some reason to think it won't bitstream DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby TrueHD?
 

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The XBMC forums have it incorrectly listed in one of their "guides" that the G530 cannot bitstream as this is the widespread (mis)belief at their forum.


I have asked them to correct this misinformation but like most unpaid guides it hasn't been updated in months.
 

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Thanks for removing the confusion.


Update: Ordered the rest of the parts.

Gigabyte Intel Z68 Micro ATX LGA 1155 Motherboard (GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3) - $66 Shipped

Rosewill R101-P-BK Case - $25 Shipped

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB DDR3 1600 - $25 Shipped


Build total: $171 (after rebate)

Items I sold to pay for it: $205

Out of pocket cost: -$34
 

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Has anyone every experienced XBMC menu freezes/stutters? (I think video and etc still play you just can't move mouse or use keyboard)


I just updated my Intel Graphics drivers, but it still does it. I used a wireless Logitech K700 and K400 and same issue with both. Going plug in usb keyboard the next time I watch something and see if it happens or not.
 
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