I believe the contrast is the one to be set at around 30% and brightness at 50%, could that be your problem?
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I'm on an announcement email list for our local broadcast stations, and an outraged hdtv owner sent this email to the list:
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I'm sorry, I can't watch NBC 15 news anymore. The reason...your overly bright, non-opaque logo is burned into my 15 month old $3500 rear-projection HDTV!! Why am I sending this email to you? I am on your DTV mailing list, and I have to imagine most viewers who watch Hi-Def programming have projection TVs, and I want to warn them.
I know what you're going to say...projection TV owners manuals say do not allow fixed images to stay on the screen for long periods of time, and so on. However, I believe I followed the manual's instruction as well as numerous other "experts" opinions. The very first thing I did when turned on the TV for the first time was turn the contrast down to 50% for every input, and turned the brightness down to around 33%. I watched nothing with black bars, or static images for at least the first 100 hrs (if not much more). After the break-in period, and not increasing the contrast or brightness, we started watching our favorite morning news while we got ready for work. We work 4 day weeks, and watch a maximum of 20 minutes of the news (plus the logo does not appear during commercials) in the morning. So in approximately 8 months of time, maybe a total of 50 hrs, I have a wrecked $3500 TV.
I am pleading with you, and any other station I might have CC'd on this email, to get rid of the bright, fixed, non-opaque logo's on any of your programming. I also ask that all projection TV owners join me in sending emails to all the local tv stations, asking them to remove these damaging logos.
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Well since his TV his 15 months old, is it more likely to suffer from this? Or what's the deal how can this be true?
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I'm sorry, I can't watch NBC 15 news anymore. The reason...your overly bright, non-opaque logo is burned into my 15 month old $3500 rear-projection HDTV!! Why am I sending this email to you? I am on your DTV mailing list, and I have to imagine most viewers who watch Hi-Def programming have projection TVs, and I want to warn them.
I know what you're going to say...projection TV owners manuals say do not allow fixed images to stay on the screen for long periods of time, and so on. However, I believe I followed the manual's instruction as well as numerous other "experts" opinions. The very first thing I did when turned on the TV for the first time was turn the contrast down to 50% for every input, and turned the brightness down to around 33%. I watched nothing with black bars, or static images for at least the first 100 hrs (if not much more). After the break-in period, and not increasing the contrast or brightness, we started watching our favorite morning news while we got ready for work. We work 4 day weeks, and watch a maximum of 20 minutes of the news (plus the logo does not appear during commercials) in the morning. So in approximately 8 months of time, maybe a total of 50 hrs, I have a wrecked $3500 TV.
I am pleading with you, and any other station I might have CC'd on this email, to get rid of the bright, fixed, non-opaque logo's on any of your programming. I also ask that all projection TV owners join me in sending emails to all the local tv stations, asking them to remove these damaging logos.
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Well since his TV his 15 months old, is it more likely to suffer from this? Or what's the deal how can this be true?
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Setting the contrast to 50 may not have reduced your light output enough to eliminate blooming or burn-in. Hopefully, you set it at this level using a PLUGE test pattern from video essentials or avia. If not, you may want to borrow a disc and check your contrast level setting.
What brand and model do you own?
What brand and model do you own?
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Sooooo not the point.
| Originally posted by kiddk1 I believe the contrast is the one to be set at around 30% and brightness at 50%, could that be your problem? |
| Originally posted by 4cinema Setting the contrast to 50 may not have reduced your light output enough to eliminate blooming or burn-in. Hopefully, you set it at this level using a PLUGE test pattern from video essentials or avia. If not, you may want to borrow a disc and check your contrast level setting. What brand and model do you own? |
GKMad
Is your RPTV a Mits? I have noticed more burn-in on those than any other brands. If it is I think its due to the power supply in the Mits which is more powerful than other RPTV's. IMHO
Is your RPTV a Mits? I have noticed more burn-in on those than any other brands. If it is I think its due to the power supply in the Mits which is more powerful than other RPTV's. IMHO
Did you guys even read the first post? This is not GKMad's TV, he was posting an e-mail someone sent to a e-mail list.
Has anyone ever tried to put together any kind of large scale petition to try and get TV stations to remove those damn things? There are a lot of stations I won't even watch anymore because of them (History channel for one).
Have you noticed FOX News uses a slowly rotating logo? If they insist on identifying themselves This is the way to go.
I replied to the original message sender, asking what tv type it is.
The real issue is the "screen bugs" that TV stations are plastering over their feeds. They are painful. Some of our locals' hdtv feeds are doubly aweful: they have both the screen bug from the upconverted SDTV signal and the screen bug on the final 1080i signal. Another station has a sparkling grey pattern in their logo, so it's always flashing/strobing/glowing on the corner of the screen. They must not even watch their own channel !!!
The real issue is the "screen bugs" that TV stations are plastering over their feeds. They are painful. Some of our locals' hdtv feeds are doubly aweful: they have both the screen bug from the upconverted SDTV signal and the screen bug on the final 1080i signal. Another station has a sparkling grey pattern in their logo, so it's always flashing/strobing/glowing on the corner of the screen. They must not even watch their own channel !!!
Why have those logos in the first place! I KNOW what channel I'm watching. I ain't that dumb. All networks need to eliminate this crap right now. And TNN and that black bar at the bottom. I cussed them out, but, the email came back to me. It's annoying how that black bar squishes the image.
OK the original email creator responded to me with his PC type:
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I have a Mitsubishi WS-65857, bought 8/1/01. I bought the 3 year
extended warranty...haven't asked American TV if the repair would be
covered yet, but I assume it would be a costly repair they wouldn't
cover because there's no way to prove I didn't abuse the TV. I feel
bad for other uninformed RPTV buyers, American never said one word
about turning the contrast and brightness down, and being cautious
with opaque logo's and black bars.
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I have a Mitsubishi WS-65857, bought 8/1/01. I bought the 3 year
extended warranty...haven't asked American TV if the repair would be
covered yet, but I assume it would be a costly repair they wouldn't
cover because there's no way to prove I didn't abuse the TV. I feel
bad for other uninformed RPTV buyers, American never said one word
about turning the contrast and brightness down, and being cautious
with opaque logo's and black bars.
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A lot of broadcast TV is just unwatchable due to the bugs, and yes, History Channel is one of the worst! I don't watch that otherwise-excellent channel at all anymore.
I don't see why, if the network MUST include a bug, they can't move it from one corner to another after each commercial break.
I've yet to hop onto the HDTV bandwagon, though I have a HDTV-ready set, and one big reason is that the bugs so diminish my viewing pleasure of broadcast TV that spending several hundred bucks for HDTV is wasted money. Any pleasure I'd get from the higher definition would be more than overshadowed by the presence of bugs.
My HD viewing will probably wait for HD-DVD.
J.
I don't see why, if the network MUST include a bug, they can't move it from one corner to another after each commercial break.
I've yet to hop onto the HDTV bandwagon, though I have a HDTV-ready set, and one big reason is that the bugs so diminish my viewing pleasure of broadcast TV that spending several hundred bucks for HDTV is wasted money. Any pleasure I'd get from the higher definition would be more than overshadowed by the presence of bugs.
My HD viewing will probably wait for HD-DVD.
J.
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