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need help darkening my living room

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I can't use my basement (set up as studio apartment and rented out), so the home theater with front projector is in the living room, and I'm trying to figure out how to deal with ambient light. To the right of the viewer is an 8ft sliding door, to the left of the viewer is an open doorway to the kitchen and dining room. I've painted the room a tan color to try and cut down on brightness a little without turnign the place into a cave. (It's a small townhouse to begin with)


I've got darkening vertical blinds on the slider door which helps some, but I've only had the projector since October and haven't seen summer affects yet. I havent' seen anything other than vertical blinds for slider doors, so don't know if there are curtains that would do a better job, which would also be easy enough to open/close that I'm not seperated from the balcony by an heavy overbearing curtain or mechanism. The walkthrough side of the slider is closer to the screen.


I'm not sure what to do with the kitchen doorway. Kitchen has fluorescent dual-tube lighting, and opens to dining room on the other end for light from there to get through. Living room ceiling is 7.5ft high, and drops to abotu 6.5ft high in ceiling. I thought about a pull-down or motorized shade to drop and cover the kitchen doorway, but I'm 6'2 tall and don't want to hit my head on a mechanism when its retracted. I could mount something on the LR wall above the doorway, but light is more likely to get through this way than if it's mounted on the kitchen side of the opening, yes? I also saw something at the hardware store that seems intended for external doors, it's a rollup screen door sort of thing that pulls from the side. That could be interesting if you could swap the screen for something more opaque on the kitchen doorway. I don't really want a traditional wood door with a knob there, the kitchen is so freakin tiny I don't want it to feel closed off, and a pull-down or side screen would be out of the way better than a wood door would be when I don' t need its darkening powers in effect.


I did get a dimmable light switch for the living room itself so I don't have bright lights in the same room nor do I wobble blindly through a dark room at night to get a refill.


I do not yet have a screen, image currently projects onto the tan wall. Yea, yuck, I know, but I'm working on that and have asked for screen advice in another thread.


I appreciate any advice for dealing with this stuff.
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What level of budget are you looking at for this project? It makes a big difference in how it's approached?


I can probably give you some starting suggestions, but it doesn't make sense for me to suggest something that is out of the question budget wise.
I see a window and I want to paint it black.

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What level of budget are you looking at for this project? It makes a big difference in how it's approached?


I can probably give you some starting suggestions, but it doesn't make sense for me to suggest something that is out of the question budget wise.

I can put a few thousand $ into it after getting a screen. Not all at once, but over 6 months or so I can afford that. Perhaps I'd do more with more time to pay for it, but I don't know if the house is worth much more investment in that kind of thing, and I'd want to move when I get married and have kids someday.
I certainly agree that a screen should be at the top of your list.


There is a HunterDouglas product that works well on patio sliders and even open arch type spaces between rooms. It is the HunterDouglas Vertiglide, which is the Duette Honeycomb material turned sideways and suspended from a track, running on roller bearings. It works very well, and is available in Opaque (blackout) fabrics. Downsides: Cost. Average patio slider sells for about $700. Also, light leak around the edges. This has to be dealt with in some fashion.


The second thing that comes to mind is simply pull draperies with blackout lining. You can go with something cheaper and ready made, or have custom made to fit. Both will probably do the same job, custom will look nicer and cost much more.


Assuming you might prefer to pursue the drapery approach, you need to think about rods. Do you want motorized/remote control or are conventional manual corded traverse rods acceptable. Light blocking wise, either approach would be about the same. Downsides: Light leak around the curtain, below the curtain, and above the curtain. Again, it needs to be dealt with (and can be).


I can give you ideas for taking either approach further in terms of blocking edge light, but I would rather not spend time on details unless it's an avenue you want to pursue in earnest.


Keep in mind that as you darken the room, any slivers of light in the field of view become very obnoxious. With your two big sources of light being in front of you, you will no doubt need to get pretty serious about how you deal with it.
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I like the sounds of the HunterDouglass things that slide horizontally. Cool idea.


I just ordered a screen today. Give me a couple months to let the pocketbook refill and I'll see if I can get some of this for the doorways.
Like Deane said blackout curtains.

I have blinds in my basement and then bought some blackout fabric from Joann's.

I used safety pins to attach the blackout fabric behind some curtains that I purchased from Target.

So blinds and curtains with blackout fabric should make it darker.

Painting the room a darker color will make it darker too. (If that's another option)

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I can give you ideas for taking either approach further in terms of blocking edge light, but I would rather not spend time on details unless it's an avenue you want to pursue in earnest.

Dean, I am in a similar general situation as amigabill. i have two windows and a sliding door in the basement room that i use as home theater. i have decided to go the drapes + blackout lining route but I am concerned about light escaping around the edges. can you please give me some hints about how i should deal with this problem?


thanks a lot!

mp
Stick velcro on the blackout drapes and around ur window frames, why shouldnt be too noticeable. Maybe inside the frame even. When you want to watch a movie just push the drapes inward so it blocks out the light better.

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Dean, I am in a similar general situation as amigabill. i have two windows and a sliding door in the basement room that i use as home theater. i have decided to go the drapes + blackout lining route but I am concerned about light escaping around the edges. can you please give me some hints about how i should deal with this problem?


thanks a lot!

mp

The first thing to remember is that light doesn't turn corners, it reflects.


The sides aren't too bad to deal with as you can use velcro as kase0 suggested. There are other places that cause problems however. One is the top. The best way to deal with that is a cornice over the top of the drapery. These are usually made of plywood, then covered with fabric to match the drapery. The nicest ones have padding to make them look rich. They can also be made of wood and not covered. It would be best to have the inside of the cornice non-reflective. Black velvet is the best for this, but you can try flat black paint. Cornices are easily mounted with nothing more than a couple of "L" brackets. The cornice will just sit on the brackets. You can use a small hex head screw to keep it in place.


The bottom of the drape is a bit tougher to deal with as you don't want light seeping under it. Get it as close to the floor as you can. I've thought about wrapping a board (2X4) with matching carpet and just laying it in front of the curtain to block light.


I like to use baffles on the sides in addition to the possibility of some velcro. In the trim department of Lowes type stores, you can purchase something like a 1/8" slat by maybe 2 inches wide. Paint the outside to match the woodwork, the side toward the window flat black. With a couple of small nails, tack it to the side of the frame on the outside.


I have more light than either of you posters have to deal with and I have 100% darkeness. It was a matter of cut and fit and plug it. You can see it a little bit on my web site. Go to the blackout shades section.

http://www.kathiejohnson.com/HomeTheater.html
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Deane, Are you sure your blackout curtains work? When I clicked on the close button the shades closed but it didn't get dark in the room.

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Deane, Are you sure your blackout curtains work? When I clicked on the close button the shades closed but it didn't get dark in the room.

Darn, that must be why my picture looks so washed out!


I know it's a reach for someone from Kansas, but it gets much darker after the lights are turned out.
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