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Need help deciding on a receiver.

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I have a Panasonic PX77U, 50" plasma. I plan to go with only a pair of speakers, probably PSB Alpha T1's. This will be used almost exclusively for home theater. I have narrowed my list of receivers down to the following, and

I would appreciate any opinions, comparisons, or rankings. If money was not a factor, I would get the Marantz 4002, but if I do, I might have to get a less expensive set of speakers.

Marantz 3001

Marantz 4002

Onkyo 505

Onkyo 605

Yamaha 659

Yamaha 661


Thanks.
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Are Denon's better? I have little experience with receivers. Are there any

for under $450 (new and not demos) that you'd recommend over the others?


Thanks.
Ok theres 2 things to research:


1. Feature set

2. and ... POWER!


I am going to talk about power, because features are boring. Power matters ... big time! So search for the most power for the buck, with a feature set you can stand.


Most receivers are actually anolog amped. Big honking old fashioned transistor technology, cooled by heat sinks, and all powered by this single, large square looking electrical component called the transformer.


So think of a 7.1 receiver, it has 7 amp sections, they generate heat and need to be cooled by metal heat sinks. You can often peer in the grill and see these lovely metal sculptures called heat sinks. If they look heavy and good, thats a good receiver.


But each of the 7 amps needs power from that big heavy block of metal called the transformer.


So say you were made out of money, and bought the best receiver on the market. It would likely have this massive 15 pound transformer, powering 7 amp sections with these big heat sinks. And of course all this stuff would require a big strong chassis to hold it. So .... the great receivers weigh probably 50-100 pounds ....


But you have a budget, so you just want a good receiver. So why not look for about a 30-40 pounder? They go from just under 400 bucks, to around 1000 bucks.


If you wanted to spend 200-250 bucks ... then you want to look at digitally amped receivers ... they are light, but still have pretty good power ... like those panasonic receivers. The feature set is barely adequete, but thats another story ...


THe last time i shopped receivers, the best $400 dollar receiver was a Pioneer 1016, which weighed in about 32 pounds and had good audio features. But this was over a year ago.
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Why not be different? Cambridge Audio 540R v2. You won't get bells and whistles or HDMI but it'll sound better than any of the other ones imho. You can get one for $499 brand new or $449 refurb from a couple places like Audio Advisor or Spearit Sound.

http://www.cambridgeaudio.com/summar...&Title=Summary
I am really confused about the features that I should look for. The "conversion" stuff especially.

Which features would matter to me, and what should I look for? I can tell you that I will be watching dvds, television shows and movies, vhs tapes, some music dvds, and I have a dvd recorder (mostly to transfer my vhs tapes).


Thanks
Depends on your "workflow." I'm kinda oldschool as I want good sound first, features a distant second. I don't have that many signal sources so it is rather simple for me. In general though, that is a place to start. Look at what your sources are, what connections/formats they have, then get a receiver that can handle all of them (and maybe a few more in case you add more stuff). I don't feel the need for my receiver to handle any of my video as my display can do that. But everyone has different preferences.


In my case, I have an Oppo 981 DVD player, DirecTV, and that's it for video sources. I have a VCR and DVD-R, but I don't really use them often so I put them in the closet and can hook them up if need be. I run the video from each direct to my Panny plasma. Audio is toslink from both the Oppo and DirecTV. I also have toslink from my Airport Xpress taking a lossless wireless stream from iTunes on my desktop computer. I have plenty of other inputs on my 540R to hook up everything I own, but choose not to right now.


But compared to a lot of people here, I have a brutally simple setup. I like it that way, and don't feel the need to have a zillion boxes around. Plus I don't game or even watch that much TV. Mostly netflix videos and stereo music.
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Marantz SR-4002 would be my choice. But, I would also highly consider Denon 2308/888. The denon just got high reviews, and they changed the amps and other things from their previous 07 series, and makes it a great receiver.


Marantz does not have all the features of Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha or others, but provides better SQ (helps with soundstage, imaging, depth of sound, etc.).


A good compromise between features and sound is the Denon. Be advised that the 2308/888 is in the Marantz SR-5001 price range.
The Onkyo 605 has a great feature set for the price. The SQ is also pretty good. Maybe not as good as the Marantz though. I would look at what features you need and go from there. If you plan on going surround eventually you may want to look at DTS-MA and TrueHD decoding with HDMI 1.3. From there find the best receiver that fits what you need. If you are choosing between 2 and there is a big price difference, but the more expensive one produces better sound you may come out ahead in buying the poorer sounding one and spending the extra money on better speakers. It seems to be the consensus that while the receiver can make a difference in SQ it is a much lower factor than the speakers.


For what it's worth I bought an Onkyo 605 because it offered almost every feature I'd want and it was only around 400 bucks. I wish it had 1080p-1080p component to HDMI conversion, and 5.1 to 7.1 matrixing but it is what it is.
don't spend less on the speakers in order to spend more on the amp. Stick with the PSB's, you'll be very pleased.

These forums are full of positive reviews of the Onkyo 605, and they are welll deserved. The 505 doesn't offer any upconversion, and the HDMI is strictly a video passthrough, you still need another connection for audio - we just installed one this week for a customer who just wanted a "modest" theatre room as a gift for his teenage daughters - Samsung 1080P plasma, Onkyo 505, HD Cable Box, Wii (for Guitar Hero 3) and PS2 (for Guitar Hero 2 and Singstar) all run through a set of Atlantic speakers.

I think the Onkyo 605 or the Yamaha 661 are the best values in this range right now.
It's important to get HDMI for your connections. One cable for sound and video. Sound is 7.1 with a blu-ray or HD. Also the E-Z-Sync feature works with this.

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The Onkyo 605 has a great feature set for the price. The SQ is also pretty good. Maybe not as good as the Marantz though. I would look at what features you need and go from there. If you plan on going surround eventually you may want to look at DTS-MA and TrueHD decoding with HDMI 1.3. From there find the best receiver that fits what you need. If you are choosing between 2 and there is a big price difference, but the more expensive one produces better sound you may come out ahead in buying the poorer sounding one and spending the extra money on better speakers. It seems to be the consensus that while the receiver can make a difference in SQ it is a much lower factor than the speakers.


For what it's worth I bought an Onkyo 605 because it offered almost every feature I'd want and it was only around 400 bucks. I wish it had 1080p-1080p component to HDMI conversion, and 5.1 to 7.1 matrixing but it is what it is.


I completely agree with this post. Bang for the buck reciever is Onkyo 605 with all its options. Especially with HDMI 1.3. I looked real hard at Marantz and HK but when I was in the market, they didn't have HDMI 1.3 or was too expensive. I went with the Onkyo 805 and have no regrets especially some are being sold around $630-$699.
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