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Hey guys Im a complete newbie with this stuff but I want to set up a nice HT setup in the upstairs game room

I have $2000 for the sound (speakers and AVR) not sure if I would do a 5 or 7 ch I think Im going to start with one sub and later maybe do two

Movies and TV 60% Games 30% Music 10%


not against building my own sub if I had good plans and suggestions I do have some experience with car audio and sub enclosures

also have 2 12" Rockford Fosgate P3 that I wouldn't mind taking out of my car to use




the room is 17x17 any suggestions would be great


I do have a friend that works at Best Buy and can get me their stuff at discount if that helps not sure how you guys feel about what they sell


again thanks for your help
 

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5 channel seems to be the way to go as most movies and tv are mixed in 5.1 format. As for the avr I like Denon but Onkyo also has quite a few features for the money.
 

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That's how I started mine minus the Center. My dad has some old infinity rs9 LR that he never uses so I pretty much took them, got a new receiver and use the LR for music and 5.1 for movies. I would like to upgrade the center which is not matched to the infinitys but the LCR is probably the best way to start just make sure to match or be pretty close to matching. And if you really want surrounds you can get some dayton bookshelf speakers from parts-express or amazon for $40 a pair.
 

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I suggest the Harman-Kardon 1650 receiver.


I think it has better amplifier and power supply circuits than almost anything else for a comparable price, and sounds better as a result.


Most lower-priced AVRs really do not do a very good job of driving 5 speakers.


For speakers, I would suggest four of the Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 speakers and the matching center speaker. Those will run you right around $1000 total from Music Direct.


The Klipsch RW-12D subwoofer is one of the best available for under $400.
 

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It sounds like you have experience constructing subs, and if you can build the sub, your dollar will go a lot further by going the DIY route. Take a look around the DIY forum for ideas on that. You could also build some amazing speakers for cheap too, if you have the tools and basic cabinet building experience. With some elbow grease, you could make that $2k stretch really far.
 

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Originally Posted by Djemil  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23217966


Hey guys Im a complete newbie with this stuff but I want to set up a nice HT setup in the upstairs game room

I have $2000 for the sound (speakers and AVR) not sure if I would do a 5 or 7 ch I think Im going to start with one sub and later maybe do two

Movies and TV 60% Games 30% Music 10%


not against building my own sub if I had good plans and suggestions I do have some experience with car audio and sub enclosures

also have 2 12" Rockford Fosgate P3 that I wouldn't mind taking out of my car to use




the room is 17x17 any suggestions would be great


I do have a friend that works at Best Buy and can get me their stuff at discount if that helps not sure how you guys feel about what they sell


again thanks for your help

Some P363/P253/ for fronts, a PC351 center and P153/163's for rear's.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=primus+speaker&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Aprimus+speaker


Hsu sub.

http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html


Denon AVR-1913 http://www.crutchfield.com/p_033AV1913/Denon-AVR-1913.html?showAll=N&search=1913&skipvs=T


This is just one system.


I think some good bookshelf speakers might work well in your space. I use P162's (same as the P163 except for the color scheme) in a 11X17 room and they sound great.


A lot of people on this forum like Ascend Acoustics,


Plenty of choices out there.
 

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everyone on this forum keeps suggesting the CMT-340 SE MINI-TOWER just want to make sure its enough for the room and also I like my bass so want to make sure that these will fill the room and have enough of the mid range bass and Ill get a sub or two for the low stuff

If you had $2k to spend on the front 3 and a receiver what would you buy


thanks for all the ideas
 

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What is the listening distance going to be? How loud do you like to listen to movies? Can't make a recommendation without knowing a little info. Otherwise, the recommendation may not fit the need at all.
 

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What is the listening distance going to be? How loud do you like to listen to movies? Can't make a recommendation without knowing a little info. Otherwise, the recommendation may not fit the need at all.

I think the movies would be medium to high for hosting movie nights and as far as sitting goes not sure yet we are building the house still so no furniture yet just trying to plan ahead but probably 8 feet back
 

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The CMT-340 SE should do fine as long as you match it with a sub or two.
 

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thanks guys any other suggestions I keep looking at floor standing left rights just like the look but is it worth the extra $$ on them and do they sound better and more complete

I think Im going to try and make the two RF 12s work for subs and get some help in the DIY section with that so still need the AVR and the front three with the 2k budget I'll squeeze the parts for the subs in later lol hopefully the wife wont mind too much
 

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Originally Posted by Djemil  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23225481


thanks guys any other suggestions I keep looking at floor standing left rights just like the look but is it worth the extra $$ on them and do they sound better and more complete

I think Im going to try and make the two RF 12s work for subs and get some help in the DIY section with that so still need the AVR and the front three with the 2k budget I'll squeeze the parts for the subs in later lol hopefully the wife wont mind too much

With about same budget, I spent


600 for Pioneer SC -1522K AVR at Costco( this is similar to the Pinoeer SC-65 which sells for over 1000 ).

904 for three CMT-340SE from Ascend Acoustic

280 for Rw-12D at Newegg.


I haven't had time to set them up yet to say how good they are though.
 

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Originally Posted by newavsmember  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23225921


With about same budget, I spent


600 for Pioneer SC -1522K AVR at Costco( this is similar to the Pinoeer SC-65 which sells for over 1000 ).

904 for three CMT-340SE from Ascend Acoustic

280 for Rw-12D at Newegg.


I haven't had time to set them up yet to say how good they are though.

Jeez! What are you waiting for????
 

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Originally Posted by Djemil  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23225481


thanks guys any other suggestions I keep looking at floor standing left rights just like the look but is it worth the extra $$ on them and do they sound better and more complete

I think Im going to try and make the two RF 12s work for subs and get some help in the DIY section with that so still need the AVR and the front three with the 2k budget I'll squeeze the parts for the subs in later lol hopefully the wife wont mind too much

Definitely check out those Ascend CMT-340 SE's for your modest speaker budget. Get three regular CMT-340's (not the one that's wired as a horizontal center speaker... must call for that special request) and two matching sand-fillable stands for the left/right (on sale with speaker purchase). Add the matching surrounds later... or stretch your budget a little and get a package price if you add a pair of wall mountable HTM-200 SE's for surrounds.


Hunt around for the Pioneer 1522k receiver at your local Costco's (gotta call around for stock) and snag one while you can. They can go like hot cakes.


Start with 5.1 and then go up from there. That particular Pioneer can do up to 9.2 surround (the standard 7.1 discrete channel audio decoding for certain Blu-ray's plus extracted front wides or height information for a bigger sound stage via DTS Neo:X... and two subwoofer outputs) and has a full array of pre-amp outputs, so you can get beefier power amps later (for louder, clearer sound, and far less distortion than the built in amps).


If you end up doing the full 9.2 setup at some point you should get either a pair of HTM-200 SE's for the heights or another pair of CMT-340 SE's for the front stage wide outputs.


Not too big on DIY subs, myself, but HSU, SVS, and Rythmik subs are great bang for the buck.
 

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Originally Posted by Djemil  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23217966


Hey guys Im a complete newbie with this stuff but I want to set up a nice HT setup in the upstairs game room

I have $2000 for the sound (speakers and AVR) not sure if I would do a 5 or 7 ch I think Im going to start with one sub and later maybe do two

Movies and TV 60% Games 30% Music 10%


not against building my own sub if I had good plans and suggestions I do have some experience with car audio and sub enclosures

also have 2 12" Rockford Fosgate P3 that I wouldn't mind taking out of my car to use




the room is 17x17 any suggestions would be great


I do have a friend that works at Best Buy and can get me their stuff at discount if that helps not sure how you guys feel about what they sell


again thanks for your help

Until 6PM Eastern time 4/20/13, Newegg has the Yamaha 773 on sale for $430, including wifi adapter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882115377&nm_mc=EMC-EXPRESS042013&cm_mmc=EMC-EXPRESS042013-_-EMC-042013-Index-_-Yamaha-_-82115377-L01A
 

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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23226095


Hunt around for the Pioneer 1522k receiver at your local Costco's (gotta call around for stock) and snag one while you can. They can go like hot cakes.

That AVR is a very good deal for that price, I wish our Costco's here in Hawaii were getting them but so far, no go.


If you are able to, go and listen to Cambridge Audio's Minx line. It's a interesting and very surprising line and at least worth a listen to if you have the chance. I'm pretty sure I'm going to be going with that line for my new setup, but I'm space restricted unlike you making the sat/sub option more practical for me.


Here's the thread for the Minx
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1339511/cambridge-audio-minx-loudspeaker-discussion-thread


Mitchell
 

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Originally Posted by Dan Hitchman  /t/1468829/need-help-with-a-ht-setup-wife-approved-a-2000-budget-what-would-you-get#post_23226095


Definitely check out those Ascend CMT-340 SE's for your modest speaker budget. Get three regular CMT-340's (not the one that's wired as a horizontal center speaker... must call for that special request) and two matching sand-fillable stands for the left/right (on sale with speaker purchase). Add the matching surrounds later... or stretch your budget a little and get a package price if you add a pair of wall mountable HTM-200 SE's for surrounds.


Hunt around for the Pioneer 1522k receiver at your local Costco's (gotta call around for stock) and snag one while you can. They can go like hot cakes.


Start with 5.1 and then go up from there. That particular Pioneer can do up to 9.2 surround (the standard 7.1 discrete channel audio decoding for certain Blu-ray's plus extracted front wides or height information for a bigger sound stage via DTS Neo:X... and two subwoofer outputs) and has a full array of pre-amp outputs, so you can get beefier power amps later (for louder, clearer sound, and far less distortion than the built in amps).


If you end up doing the full 9.2 setup at some point you should get either a pair of HTM-200 SE's for the heights or another pair of CMT-340 SE's for the front stage wide outputs.


Not too big on DIY subs, myself, but HSU, SVS, and Rythmik subs are great bang for the buck.

Why would you go with a standard speaker instead of the center wired one?
 

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Why would you go with a standard speaker instead of the center wired one?

If you ever go with a projector and screen (especially an acoustically transparent one), it's always better to have three identical, vertical aligned speakers for the LCR. The center speaker version of the CMT-340 SE has to be taken apart to get to the crossover circuit board to change it back to a regular vertical version. A lot of extra hassle.


Horizontal center speakers are a sonic compromise in sound dispersal pattern and frequency response in order to place them under a regular TV. All professional mixing and commercial theaters use identical vertical speakers for the screen channels.
 
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