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Hey Everyone!


This has been my favorite forum over the past couple months. Ive learned a lot and am envious of all of you!



So Ive been doing a lot of research on speaker brands, and receivers - and im trying to find the best bang for what I am looking for. Budget also has to be considered - I'll go more on that in a bit. First, here's my goal:

Said Goal: Create a Full, Dynamic sound stage for a "in the movie" experience for home theater use.


As far as receivers go, I plan on getting the Pioneer SC-27. Ive heard of other brands like Rotel, NAD, Dinan, Onkyo, Yahmaha, etc etc - But I think the pioneer best fits for what im looking for in a receiver, and the price is fairly good... Video quality is also important too. Right now, I dont plan on getting an amp, but that will have to come after I have broken in whatever speakers I buy and feel that It needs more power. If I do go with an external amp, I would be looking at Emotiva XPA-5. It seems to be getting some nice reviews and I like that price range.

Speakers: Originally I was looking at the Klipsch RF-63 series with matching center RC-64 and surrounds RS-62. As far as subs go, I would be choosing the HSU VTF3 MK2 sub, and then later one get a second one - or just go with the one VTF3 MK3. Ive heard a lot of mixed reviews on the Klipsch - and unfortunately there isnt a place around my area (Burbank) that has their products for retail so I can hear them. I was just talking with one of the forum members who also was in my situation and said that "if you cant demo them, its probably for a reason." The other brand I was thinking was Paradigm. There is a dealer here in Beverly Hills and I decided I would go and try them out - even though they are much more expensive
I tried out the Studio 60s (v4 i think?) And wasnt really impressed with them. The Martin Logan's at BB sounded better...(but ML is wayyy out of my price range). So I tried the new Studio 100 v5 and was pretty impressed. At lower volumes it was ok, but sounded better at higher volumes. I had tested it out with one of my soundtracks (just for clarification, the soundtrack was from Avatar
) through their cd player and he had that running to a 2 channel 50watt NAD stereo amp. I wish I could have heard the set through 5.1 setup. If I went with Paradigm, Id probably buy the Studio 100s pair, then later get the CC-690, then the HSU sub, then the surrounds. Depends on my budget, I cant really drop 5K all at once I dont think
Ideally it would be nice to get the Studio 20s as surrounds, but Im interested in finding out if you can take them off the stands so you can put it on a dedicated shelf.


I understand finding the right speaker for you is all about listening for yourself and trying it out in home or whatever. But sometimes it can be hard, especially when you cant demo them. I would just like to hear people's opinions on these speakers and possibly other great speakers I may have missed that will help me reach my goal. *imax sound is great because I feel in the movie with all the highs, deep lows, and great surround. Obviously they have tons of speakers and crazy expensive equipment, but..whatever.



Thanks for your time!!!


Ryan
 

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a local BestBuy should have lower end Klipsch. You need to listen to Klipsch "loaded horn" speakers before buying. They will be much more "in your face" than Paradigm, or any other speaker with conventional dome tweeters.


"Loaded horn" technology is neither good or bad, just different. Some absolutely love it, others hate it equally so.
 

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BB has the smaller Icon series, they discontinued the Reference series they said...
 

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Would Klipsch sound be comparable to something like Meyers Sound? I believe they use Horns as well. We had them installed in our studio theater and they sound pretty intense, and a little too harsh for my taste.
 

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From what I have read, if you want a Movie Theater experience: JTR speakers are the way to go. That is definately my next upgrade. Just make sure you have the proper electronics to power them. Some people prefer the JTR over Klipsch THX Ultra2 and that is saying a lot.


If I was looking for speakers today and want to only spend around $2K, I would just wait until AV123 Rockets are on sale again. If I was going to spend anymore than that for speakers like Paradigm Studio, I will just go JTR speakers and that's without even hearing them (based on reviews alone).
 

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Originally Posted by calnbs /forum/post/18167309


From what I have read, if you want a Movie Theater experience: JTR speakers are the way to go. That is definately my next upgrade. Just make sure you have the proper electronics to power them. Some people prefer the JTR over Klipsch THX Ultra2 and that is saying a lot.


If I was looking for speakers today and want to only spend around $2K, I would just wait until AV123 Rockets are on sale again. If I was going to spend anymore than that for speakers like Paradigm Studio, I will just go JTR speakers and that's without even hearing them (based on reviews alone).

I have some Klipsch reference series bookshelf speakers (RB-35's). I used to use three of them up front for my sound stage before going to the JTR T8's. I crossed all of them to my multiple (5) subs at 100hz so I was getting big sound out of the RB-35's, but they just do not compare to my JTR's. The JTR's are the only speaker that I have had that comes close to the dynamics of actual instruments. With the wattage that you can feed these speakers they have great dynamics.
 

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As to your initial question, I've had both P and K in my system at one time or another. I just don't see you going wrong with either. My overall commentary is that Ps are quieter and probably a little smoother while Ks are a little more "in your face" and come at you with a little more grit. However, that's subjective. Don't use it as gospel or anything.
 

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I have some Klipsch reference series bookshelf speakers (RB-35's). I used to use three of them up front for my sound stage before going to the JTR T8's. I crossed all of them to my multiple (5) subs at 100hz so I was getting big sound out of the RB-35's, but they just do not compare to my JTR's. The JTR's are the only speaker that I have had that comes close to the dynamics of actual instruments. With the wattage that you can feed these speakers they have great dynamics.

I can't wait to get my hands on JTR speakers but I have a few things to work out first....and a few things to sell first before I give JTR a call.
 

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I've owned both, for HT Klipsch wins over Paradigm.

Wrong you meant to say Paradigm wins over Klipsch all the time! lol :p

Klipsch is too harsh...Paradigms have won best cost/ratio many times! My opinion and I know thats your opinion! But just letting the people know the right answer! haha
 

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Wrong you meant to say Paradigm wins over Klipsch all the time! lol :p

Klipsch is too harsh...Paradigms have won best cost/ratio many times! My opinion and I know thats your opinion! But just letting the people know the right answer! haha

I actually thought my Paradigms could sound pretty harsh too but these where Studio Active 40v2. I'm speaking from memory now but I remember they could really be bad with sibilants .


What I did like about the Klipsch speakers was this ability to convey sudden changes in volume. Like going from total silence to a train wreck in a snap and that was just a bookshelf speaker with a 6" driver. The Paradigms just could not deliver in that respect. I also felt the Klipsch bipole surrounds deliver a much engaging soundfield than Paradigm dipoles.
 

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I actually thought my Paradigms could sound pretty harsh too but these where Studio Active 40v2. I'm speaking from memory now but I remember they could really be bad with sibilants .


What I did like about the Klipsch speakers was this ability to convey sudden changes in volume. Like going from total silence to a train wreck in a snap and that was just a bookshelf speaker with a 6" driver. The Paradigms just could not deliver in that respect. I also felt the Klipsch bipole surrounds deliver a much engaging soundfield than Paradigm dipoles.

My Paradigms deliver in that respect for sure!! Its awesome! I do like Klipsch also....I was choosing between Klipsch and Paradigm but got an incredible deal with the Paradigm system!!!!! I saved alot of money!!!!!!!!!! Plus my basement would not be very forgiving with the horn loaded tweaters of Klipsch! Both are great speakers!
 

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"unfortunately there isnt a place around my area (Burbank) that has their products for retail so I can hear them"


If you check the Klipsch website, Our Dealers, they show 10 dealers in the greater LA area that carry the RF line. I would definitely recommend listening before buying Klipsch.
 
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