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I have a Vizio 80" 3D TV, which was just installed yesterday, to a Sony BDPS790 3D Blu-ray player, Motorola CATV STB through Verizon, Onkyo 7.1 speakers, and a Marantz NR1501 Slim Line Home Theater Receiver. Therein lies the problem, the receiver, because it does not pass through the 3D signal, even though it's only three years old. The quick fix I employed was running an HDMI cable direct from the Blu-ray player output to the TV, and kept the optical cable in place, outputting it from the Blu-ray player to the receiver (and by the way, I had to use High Speed HDMI, because an older HDMI cable did not pass the 3D signal). Two problems with this. One, my A/V receiver should be handling all of my A/V component signaling, rather than me running a separation of the audio and video. Two, for reasons still unknown to me, we can't get any audio from the 3D Blu-ray movie to the 7.1 speakers. No sound, period. It will play sound on the TV, but as bad as the sound is from there, is not very loud. And by the way, we had one heck of a time getting the 3D TV and 3D Blu-ray player in sync and actually play a 3D movie in that format (the A/V, "Installer", didn't even run a test of playing a 3D movie--I was out of the house and the wife was the only one there). Looks awesome, but as I said no sound from the 7.1 speakers. I'm hoping that by employing a state-of-the-art A/V receiver, all of my problems will be addressed and corrected. That, and hopefully with a nod to future technologies around the corner.

 

With all that in mind, I'm looking for opinions on a really good, but not the be$t A/V receiver, primarily used for a great 3D DVD movie viewing experience. Playing music is not so much of a concern as we're using the system primarily for CATV and DVD movie viewing. If I do play CD's, MP3's, or something off of the Internet, great audio playback would be desired but it's not a deal breaker. I don't need multi-room capability. Plugging in a smartphone and playing content sounds cool, but I don't really need it. I would like to keep the price below the $650. What are your selections, and why are you suggesting it? Thanks everyone!
 

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while its true that Onkyo has had some issues with their receivers. I am on my third one. I got the onkyo txnr626. its really nice. he video processor is same as the oppo with the marvel. its also sounds very nice. easy to hook up a bunch of stuff to the receiver that is what I am doing with my oppo 93, the roku, and ps3. I got it for around 450 or so.

I had the onkyo 605 and the ht rc270.

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If your budget will allow, I would also consider upgrading your speakers. Onkyo makes some good receivers, but there are better speakers out there.
 

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I have the same blu-ray player, and I am also using separately its hdmi output and its optical digital output. In the BDP, on the audio output setup menu, I have the digital output set to "bitstream" (you might also try the other setting, "PCM"). I find that with some blu-ray discs I get no output from the optical port. I think it's because the BDP will not use the optical port for audio formats exceeding DD 5.x (like DD Master Audio). Maybe that's your problem.


I can't help with the question you asked, sorry. My AVR, Pioneer SC1522-K, works fine to pass 3D hdmi from the BDP on to the TV, playing the audio part itself, but it costs more than you want to pay.
 

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IMO the best receiver you can get for $600 is the NAD T748.


Its sound quality is excellent, and the features you need are there.


If you really want to upgrade your system, though, you need some better main front speakers.


Do you have the Onkyo 540 speakers?


I suggest that you consider a pair of the Polk TSX330T speakers which are around $500 per pair, or Cambridge Audio S70, which are $400 per pair.
 

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Originally Posted by Jacob305  /t/1524989/need-to-update-an-out-of-date-receiver-too-many-choices#post_24547619


while its true that Onkyo has had some issues with their receivers. I am on my third one. I got the onkyo txnr626. its really nice. he video processor is same as the oppo with the marvel. its also sounds very nice. easy to hook up a bunch of stuff to the receiver that is what I am doing with my oppo 93, the roku, and ps3. I got it for around 450 or so.

I had the onkyo 605 and the ht rc270.

Jacob
I see that the Onkyo has some good reviews and I like its features. On the Onkyo site, though, I see that a newer, comparable model is coming out soon, the TX-NR636, which retails for $599. Should I wait the three to six weeks that Amazon estimates it will take to ship and get that instead?
 

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The 1501 is actually a 5 year old model having been released in 2009 with HDMI 1.4/3D models released the next year in 2010. You may want to replace it with the current slim line 7.1 model ........ the SR1604.
I actually purchased  the 1501 in 2011, so obviously it was already two years on the market.
 

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If you can save money in getting a 1 year old model, I'd do that.
Which brand and model are you referring to?
 

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A Yamaha any day over an Onkyo. As a matter of fact anything over an Onkyo at this time.

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-HTR-7065-channel-receiver/dp/B00AZE78KQ

Thanks for your feedback. Can you qualify that assertion please?

He most likely means that Onkyo has had too many problems with reliability in recent years (just search for threads on this, and you will see that many, many people have had problems with Onkyo receivers), and Yamaha seems to be as reliable as you can get. I personally would go with a Yamaha for this reason.
 

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Thanks for your feedback. Can you qualify that assertion please?

At this time and for several years back Onkyo has a HDMI board problem( higher than normal) that they won't admit to. They do offer a "free replacement" when it does fail, however you have to return and be without an AVR for a while. Why buy something that unreliable? Now you may get lucky and also get one that will not have a problem right away or it could go out at any time without warning. Not worth the gamble when there are the other brands that don't have these high failure rates. Yamaha is known as the most sold,reliable brand in the market. As I stated ANY brand at this time is better than an Onkyo. Yep they give you a lot for the dollar but what's that matter if it doesn't work. The AVR I suggested is the same as Yamaha's RX-V773.
 

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I don't know, I've had 2 Onkyos for over 5 years with no issues.

 

Anyway, in a thread like this you are going to get recommendations for most brands out there, and it's hard to winnow down the wildly differing suggestions.  But before you even get to that, to get more helpful suggestions, the OP needs to give more information.  What is the size of the room?  What volume level expectation do you have?  What specific model are the speakers?  They might be a weak link for any new AVR.  If all you want is 3D passthrough, just about any mid level AVR can do that, but there are many more eye popping features that you seem unaware of which would transform your system into something great.  If you are willing to lay out the cash for 80 inches, you might also want to look at upgrading the speakers.  Some of the Onkyo speakers are flat out crap.
 

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Thanks for all the responses so far, everybody. This is a very responsive group of members, and I appreciate that. I will gather the more detailed information that audio4life recommended I submit and post later.
 

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I also recently went through this decision-making process about a month or two ago and considered all the different brands from the beginning. After much research and hours and hours of reading through forms and reviews I narrowed out Onkyo as well. There seems to be way too many problems with that particular brand so I didn't even want to deal with it. Then I did more research and I decided to go with two brands, either Yamaha or Denon. I actually bought both brand receivers. I bought the Yamaha V575 & V675, and the Denon e400. After playing with both receivers and listening to both receivers on how they sound, I eventually kept the Yamaha V675. The Denon had issues with the HDMI handshake and that is one of the main reasons why I did not decide to keep it.


I am very happy with my purchase and would recommend it to anyone.
 

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You compared the E400 to the Yamaha V675 which retails for almost twice the price of the Denon.  A Denon product more in line price wise would have been the X2000.  Glad you found something you are happy with though.
 
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