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Just purchased a pro amp, a Crown XLS-402A off Ebay for my Polk LSi speakers. I was driving them with approx 70-80wpc before with my HK AVR230 receiver in stereo mode. Hooked this baby up today and I couldn't believe my ears! She's rated at 400x2 at 4 ohms. Disgusting.


I turned the gain all the way up on the Crown to see if any feedback or noise was audible and I could only hear it if I got extremely close to the speaker. It has dual fans which really aren't as bad as I thought they'd be. I can't believe you can get this much performance so cheap. It's almost like I stole the performance! ($250)


When I first got the amp and took it out of the box I couldn't believe how sturdy and heavy it was, AND how good looking it was as well. The only thing I had to buy extra were two XLR adapters to RCA, which ran me $14 shipped.


Just wanted to share my excitement with you guys!


BIG THANKS goes out to Brickie for giving me the idea! THANKS BUD!
 

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This proves that what Tim the Tool Man said about tools goes double for amplifiers: there is no substitute for "More Power!"
 

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This proves that what Tim the Tool Man said about tools goes double for amplifiers: there is no substitute for "More Power!"

More power



Prices on the entry level prosound amplifiers are affordable.


One example that comes to mind. QSC 1800w for ~$400 new (online.)


It's nice to see people finally use prosound amplifiers in the home,

whereas in the old days it was considered voodoo ..



... and still is by many
 

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Took the words out of my mouth..Still is vodoo yo many..Oh well.


Mazeroth, all I can say is YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad it worked out for you man...Your feelings are very much what I experienced! I even told my wife it was as good as sex LOL..It is just mind boggling the performance that you can get with these amps!!! Hey, I just ordered 2 more.At first I was going to just use the 1, but man I got amp all my channels with these babies! Best kept secret, or whatever you want to call it!


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Just popped in my fiancee's Norah Jones CD and....oh my lord....AMAZING! I was testing it out with some rock/metal earlier and decided to pop in a higher quality recording. She HATES my speakers but after hearing Norah Jones with this setup she actually complemented it, with a smile as well!


No doubt the best purchase I've ever made for my system, well, I'd say on par with getting the Polk LSis.



They've been on for a few hours and I still have chills in my body, I swear to it. I guarantee it would be nearly indistinguishable for someone to pick out this Crown vs. a higher priced amplifier.


Brickie, where do you have your volume/gain settings on your Crown at? I've been testing with 50% and 75%ish.


Thanks again, man! You have made my day!


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Man, I'm just glad this has worked as great for you as it has for me!!!I don't want to start a flame war, but I'd never buy some of the "higher priced" amps whose name s get thrown around here often. This pro amp is just that good!!! Everyone owes it to their self to give it a listen before making a decision.My latest were picked up for $200 of ebay so an even sweeter deal! For around $750 iv'e got unlimited power, and an amazing sound!!


Mazeroth, I keep mine on 50 percent or right in the middle..I had mine much higher but turned it down . I'm superstitous in that I don't like to have my volume knob on equipment up that high if possible..I just set it at 50 percent then used pioneer test tones to calibrate levels with my SPL meter to be even all the way around room..Will do the same when others come!!


brickie


You know how good this is..I'm listening to a bunch of symphony music just because all of the instruments blow me away!Hey, how does this compare to the amp you were using? the one you said that you paid a TON for and didn't expect the Crown to beat?
 

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"Hey, how does this compare to the amp you were using? the one you said that you paid a TON for and didn't expect the Crown to beat?"


No idea what you're talking about
First amp for me.


Another thing...I hooked up a 3 year old pair of Polk RTi600s that I have in my 2nd system to this amp and WOWZERS! They sound almost as good as the LSis, honestly. Not as detailed but the improvement over my other receiver is huge. Now I'm on a mission to tell everyone I know that has a receiver and nice speakers to get one of these bad-boys!



Does your Crown even get remotely warm? I've had mine running for about 4 hours straight now and it feels like I never turned it on. The air it's pulling thru and blowing out the back is cold. It's amazing. I may just take out the fans and see what happens. I bet it still performs flawlessly.
 

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Got my forum members mixed up..I know someone else as well is waiting on one of these..


Mine runs ice cold as well..Those fans really are doing the job.Iv'e got a link I can find if you need it to a place where you can get some SUPER quiet fans if you want to replace the ones in there..I haven't done it so not sure about how quiet it would be..Honestly though, the fans really are a non issue.Can't hear them at all when watching a movie..even during quieter passages..


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Does your Crown even get remotely warm? I've had mine running for about 4 hours straight now and it feels like I never turned it on. The air it's pulling thru and blowing out the back is cold. It's amazing. I may just take out the fans and see what happens. I bet it still performs flawlessly.

in home applications you will probably not have any problems....


after talking with the factory reps, i disconnected the fan on my carver professional ZR1000 amplifier.....


no fan noise and it is still cool to the touch on the top of the amp....


cheers!


btw - congrats on your new amplifier!!!

 

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Ya, still contemplating touching the fans or not. When I have music on or a movie I can't hear them at all. Was going to unplug them just out of curiousity to see how hot she'd get



Brickie, when you get all 3 are you going to put them in a rack or just on a shelf, 3 on top of each other or on different ones? I'm probably going to pick up a few more of these (trying to talk my brother into one now) and am not sure what I should do. I bet I could just stack all 3 on top of each other in my cherry entertainment stand. Talk about mean-looking



Another question...we're talking about a LOT of current here. Won't 2-3 of these trip a breaker in the townhouse I'm living in? They only have 15 amp breakers in the fuse box. Gotta figure the whole room is probably sharing one, and I have a receiver, 1-3 amps, DVD player, projector etc... in there. Any ideas?
 

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Ya, still contemplating touching the fans or not. When I have music on or a movie I can't hear them at all. Was going to unplug them just out of curiousity to see how hot she'd get



Brickie, when you get all 3 are you going to put them in a rack or just on a shelf, 3 on top of each other or on different ones? I'm probably going to pick up a few more of these (trying to talk my brother into one now) and am not sure what I should do. I bet I could just stack all 3 on top of each other in my cherry entertainment stand. Talk about mean-looking



Another question...we're talking about a LOT of current here. Won't 2-3 of these trip a breaker in the townhouse I'm living in? They only have 15 amp breakers in the fuse box. Gotta figure the whole room is probably sharing one, and I have a receiver, 1-3 amps, DVD player, projector etc... in there. Any ideas?

a couple of points if i may....



if you keep the fans hooked up, then there is no problem in stacking them... that's the way they were designed .. to be stacked....


the current issue will only become a problem if you play your system extremely loud.... normal home theater use or even multichannel SACD/DVD-audio use will not be any problem for your 15 amp circuit....


cheers!

 

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Ya, still contemplating touching the fans or not. When I have music on or a movie I can't hear them at all. Was going to unplug them just out of curiousity to see how hot she'd get



Brickie, when you get all 3 are you going to put them in a rack or just on a shelf, 3 on top of each other or on different ones? I'm probably going to pick up a few more of these (trying to talk my brother into one now) and am not sure what I should do. I bet I could just stack all 3 on top of each other in my cherry entertainment stand. Talk about mean-looking



Another question...we're talking about a LOT of current here. Won't 2-3 of these trip a breaker in the townhouse I'm living in? They only have 15 amp breakers in the fuse box. Gotta figure the whole room is probably sharing one, and I have a receiver, 1-3 amps, DVD player, projector etc... in there. Any ideas?

I'll be stacking mine right on top of each other..When we get a house and do a dedicated room,I'll probaly invest in a rack at that point.


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I am glad more of you are finding out how good these amps are. I have had my 3 402s and one 202 for quit awhile now. And like brickie said I wouldn't touch some of these consumer amps when you can get this much power for such low $$$ output.


BTW I run my gain knobs at full on the amps,except the one amp channel that is powering my six aura bass shackers, that I run two to four notchs below full.
 

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I really wish someone that has say an Outlaw or another "high end" amp that has tried a 402 or othe r pro amp would chime in..We all love them, but just curious what a owner of "high end" amp thinks..


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I don't know much about the Crown pro amps but I recently heard a BGW pro amp driving Martin Logans (very revealing speakers) and I was shocked at how good that amp sounded. Everything I have ever read or heard about pro amps was that they all had great bass but were thin or bright in the midrange and high end.


This is not what I heard from the BGW amp. Top end and midrange were totally flat and transparent. Ditto for the Carver pro amps (although these are digital).


I have heard several amps in my system driving my Maggies so I am not of the "all amps sound the same" club but I will say that amp differences are subtle and not dramatic. Maybe what we are hearing from these pro amps is the dramatic advantages of having MASSIVE power reserves. My friend's BGW amp pumps out 600W/channel on his Martin Logans.
 

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I totally agree with that..Huge pwoer reserves wether or not you use them or not makes a HUGE difference!


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i've said it before on these amps too....i like em.


just be warry if you are going to be pounding some bass through them...I would use a different crown amp to run subs or the low end of a bi-amped stack. They don't even publish the slew rate on the XLS seris, and i have noticed a considerable lack of bass when i get them really pumping.


On a side note...after hearing you guys (mainly brickie.
) go on about these XLS's, i decided to give one of mine another listen. So i took some of my gear that i had lying around doing nothing (mainly cheap stuff) and put it together. Its now my music room. I should say, im pretty happy with it. Still a little hissy for me..but that could be my power....what i got is...


Technics CD Player

McLelland DJ mixer

Alesis MEQ-230 EQ

TDM Crossover (running 2 way right now)

Crown XLS402 for Hi's

Crown Power Tech 2 For lows

Yamaha S115IV's for the hi's

Yamaha SW118's for the lows.


i'll post a pic later...but yeah..the crown sounds pretty good. Maybe ill just keep it out of the closet. Sorry brickie...no sale yet.



Later

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That's okay, I just picked up 2 more a few days ago for a SWEET price to complete all I need!!! I use powered towers with 300 watt subs in each so no big deal at all for me.


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I was going to go with QSC's, but the Crowns had better power ratings for the "same dollar" models.I believe the Crowns also have a warranty program un equaled as far amps.3 yr no fault!!Fully transferable as well.


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