Forget the Yamaha go w/a Luxman 505uXII.Hello!
Want a new stereo amplifier with ht by pass for my Audiovector qr5.
Should i go for analog like Yamaha a s2200 or digital like moon or Hegel?
Cheers
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Just like with bi-wiring and passive bi-amping, "HT bypass" is a marketing scam. It is a fancy name for what it actually is: bi-preamping. That is, using two preamps in a system instead of one.
The claimed logic behind its existence is that using the existing analog stereo inputs on an AVR or prepro "can't possible work well (without audible compromise) for stereo devices. . . . so one needs to purchase a secondary preamp just for those 2ch sources." This premise is wrong. The stereo analog inputs on the AVR/prepro are just fine and if the user doesn't want to apply digital signal manipulations, such as EQ, that's fine too; they almost always have a button to instantly disengage all that digital stuff called "Pure Direct" on most brands.
The notion that a competent multi channel AVR/Prepro company can make a 5.1 channel (or more) preamp section, but then for some magical reason when one turns off all but two of those multiple channels (to reproduce just plain stereo) it suddenly becomes "junky" is laughable.
For people not familiar with the block diagram for what HT bypass really is, I made one. Note, there are slight differences depending on the particular gear being used but here's the basic signal flow:
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Smart people examining the diagram usually come to realize: "Oh I get it. 'HT bypass' is really just an A/B switch, shown in the dashed box, which alternates if my amplification stage is fed by one of two different preamps: the one in the AVR or the new, redundant, secondary preamp. . . . Yes, that's 'bi-preamping'. "
Just like the vast majority of speakers now have bi-wiring binding posts, even though in truth it provides no audible benefit, many if not most preamps and integrated amps now have 'HT bypass' buttons even though they too are questionable.
As with bi-wiring and passive bi-amping, dealers love this myth because it potentially doubles their profits.
The claimed logic behind its existence is that using the existing analog stereo inputs on an AVR or prepro "can't possible work well (without audible compromise) for stereo devices. . . . so one needs to purchase a secondary preamp just for those 2ch sources." This premise is wrong. The stereo analog inputs on the AVR/prepro are just fine and if the user doesn't want to apply digital signal manipulations, such as EQ, that's fine too; they almost always have a button to instantly disengage all that digital stuff called "Pure Direct" on most brands.
The notion that a competent multi channel AVR/Prepro company can make a 5.1 channel (or more) preamp section, but then for some magical reason when one turns off all but two of those multiple channels (to reproduce just plain stereo) it suddenly becomes "junky" is laughable.
For people not familiar with the block diagram for what HT bypass really is, I made one. Note, there are slight differences depending on the particular gear being used but here's the basic signal flow:
Smart people examining the diagram usually come to realize: "Oh I get it. 'HT bypass' is really just an A/B switch, shown in the dashed box, which alternates if my amplification stage is fed by one of two different preamps: the one in the AVR or the new, redundant, secondary preamp. . . . Yes, that's 'bi-preamping'. "
Just like the vast majority of speakers now have bi-wiring binding posts, even though in truth it provides no audible benefit, many if not most preamps and integrated amps now have 'HT bypass' buttons even though they too are questionable.
As with bi-wiring and passive bi-amping, dealers love this myth because it potentially doubles their profits.
I don't bother w/HT pass through. I use my power amp. The RCA interconnects from my Bryston amp go to my Luxman CL38u SE tube preamp the balanced interconnects go to my Krell HT processor. Just switch the amp to channel the sound. 👍
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You provided no information about the components you are utilizing now and whether you wish to purchase an integrated amplifier or separates for analog use only (such as playing vinyl) or will be connecting digital sources to the stereo gear. Are you thinking about obtaining analog stereo gear and adding to it an outboard DAC? There are many options available that need to be considered. Knowing this info and your goals will help others here to offer informed suggestions.Hello!
Want a new stereo amplifier with ht by pass for my Audiovector qr5.
Should i go for analog like Yamaha a s2200 or digital like moon or Hegel?
Cheers
Do you have access to brands beyond Yamaha, Simaudio (Moon), and Hegel? It would great if you have local audio shops that can loan you demo gear for overnight auditions at home, or dealers that will fully refund your money if you do not like the product.
Also, it would be helpful to know what, if anything, in your current system displeases you and what you may be trying to improve.
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