Actually - as far as I know it is the same Apple TV with software update. I bought one last year and hope the software update will make it current. I think the software will be out in about 2 weeks.
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It can save you a lot of money that can then be used to buy/rent HD/5.1 movies!
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It can save you a lot of money that can then be used to buy/rent HD/5.1 movies!
Given that the appleTV was basically a flop as a media extender--no dis meant to those who appreciated it and used it for what it was (you're a real minority)--Apple has really only added one new feature: rentals. And if Apple is trying to get those of us who have an htpc a reason to drop them for the appleTV, it ain't gonna happen.
And if I have an htpc, which would I rather add? An appleTV, or a Blu-ray player? Especially with the end finally in sight for the format wars. My corner movie rental place is getting ready to add Blu-ray finally. Tell me again why I should pay $4.99 for a digital download that is inferior to the BD disk that I don't have return until midnight the night after I rent it for $3.99?
How many people out there with htpc's want an appleTV, and have two Apple boxes hooked up? Right. No one. We all want it in one box.
So, if Apple is hoping that just rentals is enough to tilt people to buying the box, then it had better rethink its strategy a bit. Who in their right mind (leaving out those who may use it as an extender) is going to pay $229, just so they can rent movies that explode 24 hours after starting to view them. And at $4.99 a pop for HD?
If all I care about is watching movies, then I am better off spending my $229 on a Blu-ray disk player, and renting my HD movies from Netflix and the corner store. Much better viewing experience and all the added content.
For Apple to make this work, they're going to have to really aggressively drop the price of the appleTV. Cablecos will give me a set top box for free, just to try and sell me PPV and VOD. Apple's getting closer, but still no cigar.
Where I'm getting at, is that those that are using the appleTV as an extender may make use of the rentals. The rest of us who were hoping for Apple to put HD content on the htpc, or a more reasonable value for rentals on the appleTV (plus significant added features) are just yawning over this right now. Next year before Macworld, people will be saying much the same about the appleTV as they are this year. Slow adoption, many problems.
I think I just talked myself into buying a BD player instead of an appleTV. Way to go, Apple!
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Given that the appleTV was basically a flop as a media extender--no dis meant to those who appreciated it and used it for what it was (you're a real minority)--Apple has really only added one new feature: rentals. And if Apple is trying to get those of us who have an htpc a reason to drop them for the appleTV, it ain't gonna happen.
And if I have an htpc, which would I rather add? An appleTV, or a Blu-ray player? Especially with the end finally in sight for the format wars. My corner movie rental place is getting ready to add Blu-ray finally. Tell me again why I should pay $4.99 for a digital download that is inferior to the BD disk that I don't have return until midnight the night after I rent it for $3.99?
How many people out there with htpc's want an appleTV, and have two Apple boxes hooked up? Right. No one. We all want it in one box.
So, if Apple is hoping that just rentals is enough to tilt people to buying the box, then it had better rethink its strategy a bit. Who in their right mind (leaving out those who may use it as an extender) is going to pay $229, just so they can rent movies that explode 24 hours after starting to view them. And at $4.99 a pop for HD?
If all I care about is watching movies, then I am better off spending my $229 on a Blu-ray disk player, and renting my HD movies from Netflix and the corner store. Much better viewing experience and all the added content.
For Apple to make this work, they're going to have to really aggressively drop the price of the appleTV. Cablecos will give me a set top box for free, just to try and sell me PPV and VOD. Apple's getting closer, but still no cigar.
Where I'm getting at, is that those that are using the appleTV as an extender may make use of the rentals. The rest of us who were hoping for Apple to put HD content on the htpc, or a more reasonable value for rentals on the appleTV (plus significant added features) are just yawning over this right now. Next year before Macworld, people will be saying much the same about the appleTV as they are this year. Slow adoption, many problems.
I think I just talked myself into buying a BD player instead of an appleTV. Way to go, Apple!
It seems that the premise for your comment was that Apple was trying to get people with HTPCs to buy an Apple TV. That is not the target market.
One reason the ATV rental is more convenient is that you don't have to return the movie when you are done with it, it will just go away.
We'll have to wait and see how successful this is, its still territory that is unproven.
Kevin
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Originally Posted by wildrock /forum/post/12834333
Given that the appleTV was basically a flop as a media extender--no dis meant to those who appreciated it and used it for what it was (you're a real minority)--Apple has really only added one new feature: rentals. And if Apple is trying to get those of us who have an htpc a reason to drop them for the appleTV, it ain't gonna happen.
And if I have an htpc, which would I rather add? An appleTV, or a Blu-ray player? Especially with the end finally in sight for the format wars. My corner movie rental place is getting ready to add Blu-ray finally. Tell me again why I should pay $4.99 for a digital download that is inferior to the BD disk that I don't have return until midnight the night after I rent it for $3.99?
How many people out there with htpc's want an appleTV, and have two Apple boxes hooked up? Right. No one. We all want it in one box.
So, if Apple is hoping that just rentals is enough to tilt people to buying the box, then it had better rethink its strategy a bit. Who in their right mind (leaving out those who may use it as an extender) is going to pay $229, just so they can rent movies that explode 24 hours after starting to view them. And at $4.99 a pop for HD?
If all I care about is watching movies, then I am better off spending my $229 on a Blu-ray disk player, and renting my HD movies from Netflix and the corner store. Much better viewing experience and all the added content.
For Apple to make this work, they're going to have to really aggressively drop the price of the appleTV. Cablecos will give me a set top box for free, just to try and sell me PPV and VOD. Apple's getting closer, but still no cigar.
Where I'm getting at, is that those that are using the appleTV as an extender may make use of the rentals. The rest of us who were hoping for Apple to put HD content on the htpc, or a more reasonable value for rentals on the appleTV (plus significant added features) are just yawning over this right now. Next year before Macworld, people will be saying much the same about the appleTV as they are this year. Slow adoption, many problems.
I think I just talked myself into buying a BD player instead of an appleTV. Way to go, Apple!![]()
It seems that the premise for your comment was that Apple was trying to get people with HTPCs to buy an Apple TV. That is not the target market.
One reason the ATV rental is more convenient is that you don't have to return the movie when you are done with it, it will just go away.
We'll have to wait and see how successful this is, its still territory that is unproven.
Kevin
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