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New Fujitsu models vs Old Models. What improved?

1992 Views 28 Replies 14 Participants Last post by CTBob, Jan 30, 2004

The_Network_guy

Discussion Starter · Jan 19, 2004

Hello.

I was looking at the Fujitsu website as their 2004 model vs 2003 model. I saw a comparison sheet and it appears that they are both exactly the same.

I thought Fujitsu was coming out with an entire new generation Plasma TV line. I can't see what the difference is between the P50XHA10US vs P50XHA30ws.

Was the P50XHA30WS the new model everyone was talking about a few months ago or did they delay their next generation PlasmaTV until a later date?

If I choose to purchase a Fujitsu, I really don't want to buy the " old technology" if they are planing to release some large improvements in the future.

PLease let me know what the deal is with Fujitsu.

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Brian.

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ThumperBoy

· #2 · Jan 19, 2004

The sales for the "old" models are starting now. I see Good Guys is advertising a closeout on the Fujitsu 50" HD plasma for only $7999, its a bargain at that price. I doubt there will be any big changes in the 2004 models.

Ken Ross

· #3 · Jan 19, 2004

Brian, the new Fujitsu models all offer 10 bit processing vs. the 8 bit of the 03 models. Other than that, there's really no major changes. In fact, there appear to be no major changes in any of the plasma manufacturers line with the exception of some units coming out this year with integrated ATSC tuners...if that does anything for you. I think most here already have ATSC tuners either in their satellite tuners or as stand alone units.

At this point in plasma development it looks like changes are more evolutionary than revolutionary. We may see higher rez models in the not too distant future which will certainly help big screen models (>60") but have far less impact on 50" and smaller units.

Gx35

· #4 · Jan 19, 2004

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Originally posted by The_Network_guy
Hello.

I was looking at the Fujitsu website as their 2004 model vs 2003 model. I saw a comparison sheet and it appears that they are both exactly the same. I thought Fujitsu was coming out with an entire new generation Plasma TV line. I can't see what the difference is between the P50XHA10US vs P50XHA30ws.

Thanks, I really appreciate it.

Brian.

The new Fujitsu "30ws" models use Panasonic "6 Series" glass.

With 10 bit processing the new panel is now capable of displaying 1,070 billion colors.

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goombawa

· #5 · Jan 19, 2004

Ditto what gx35 said. It also has a few different picture modes (although they could just be renamed from the 10...no confirmation on this yet that I am aware of), and an "enhancement" on/off feature that turns up the gamma a bit when turned on.

Now, how much real world improvement over the 10 this translates to is hard to say, since I have never seen a 50" 10 next to a 30, but I can say that I am very happy with my 30 series.

sdm300

· #6 · Jan 19, 2004

And - I can say that I am very pleased with the 10 that I installed yesterday.... and the extra $1K in my pocket feels ok too.

goombawa

· #7 · Jan 19, 2004

...and there you have it. If you believe that the improvements are worth the extra money, then buy the 30 and be happy. If you don't, then buy the 10, pocket that money and be happy too. Either way you will be happy.

Andrzej

· #8 · Jan 19, 2004

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Originally posted by Gx35

With 10 bit processing the new panel is now capable of displaying 1,070 billion colors.

Actually - it is 1.070 billion colors for us in the US and 1,070 billion colors (or colours) for Europe. Not that it matters much...

Andrzej

PooperScooper

· #9 · Jan 19, 2004

Getting an old, obsolete P50/10 and a Elite 59avi HDMI universal player for the price

of a P50/30 (or very close to it) may not be a bad idea...

larry

goombawa

· #10 · Jan 19, 2004

Good suggestion larry...as long as you don't mind the feeding little hamsters on wheels inside in the old, obsolete 10 series.

CTBob

· #11 · Jan 19, 2004

I also am very pleased with my P50/30, but when I see my dealer's 50/10 which he has had running 8 hours a day for the past 10 months, it also looks great. * grand for a P50/10 might be a good way to go.

rscott4563

· #12 · Jan 19, 2004

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Actually - it is 1.070 billion colors for us in the US and 1,070 billion colors (or colours) for Europe. Not that it matters much...

Well I'm in the UK and as far as I'm aware thats Europe and its definitely 1.070 billion colours, not 1070 billion....

jkohms

· #13 · Jan 19, 2004

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Originally posted by Andrzej
Actually - it is 1.070 billion colors for us in the US and 1,070 billion colors (or colours) for Europe. Not that it matters much...

Andrzej

Did you not mean 1,070 millions?

Andrzej

· #14 · Jan 19, 2004

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Originally posted by jkohms
Did you not mean 1,070 millions?

No. In most (all?) continental european countries (and some other places) the decimal comma is the standard decimal symbol. In the US the decimal point is denoted with a period.

rscott4563, if I remember correctly, in Britain a raised period has been used. Isn't it true anymore?

Andrzej

rscott4563

· #15 · Jan 19, 2004

No as far as I know at least for my life time a comma (,) has been used to seperate units of thousands so a million would be 1,000,000 and a period (.) has always been used to signal a point, so one point two million would be 1.2 million and one point zero seven billion would be 1.070 billion.

Hope that makes sense....

Andrzej

· #16 · Jan 19, 2004

rscott4563,

please don't tell me that you have never seen a decimal point located halfway up the number rather than at the base. I have seen it frequently in Britain. Also, unless my memory is fading really quickly, the American billion is a milliard in Britain.

Andrzej

rscott4563

· #17 · Jan 19, 2004

If by half way up you mean like...... Oh hang on I can't show you because they don't exist on my UK keyboard!! That how much we use them, so that would be a no then.....

Your point on a Milliard is correct, to be precise a billion in Britain would be 1,000,000,000,000 a million million but in everyday use it is thought of as a 1,000,000,000 a thousand million and in monetary terms we consider a billionaire the same as you do in the US...

Cheers

Ryan

Andrzej

· #18 · Jan 19, 2004

Ryan,

for raised decimal point info look here: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/DecimalPoint.html

Using my keyboard it looks like this: 3â€¢14159.

Andrzej

goombawa

· #19 · Jan 19, 2004

tomAYto....tomAHto

rscott4563

· #20 · Jan 19, 2004

An American website stating what we apparently use in the UK......

Again, no we don't use the raised decimal, just the bog standard ones and commas.

Quote:

Did you not mean 1,070 millions?

And back to the point, yeah it should have been either 1,070 million colours or 1.070 billion colours...

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