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So we just bought our first home. The living/television room has some challenges for surround sound and I'd like some advice please. Its 22' long 15' front to back and most of the ceiling is 12'. The front half of the room from front(TV) to back (couches) is marble floor. There are windows behind the couches. The wall behind is an outside wall. The rear surrond speakers will have to be run in the attic and down the walls. I started with a Bose Lifestyle 135 II sound bar, wireless sub and Bose brain. I was totally unimpressed for 2,000 dollars. My price range for everything will be 2-2,500. Ive been looking mostly at Definitive Technologies speakers so far only really based on the sales person at Magnolia (BestBuy). I had an Onkyo system before that was like 4-500 bucks and it rocked as far as I was concerned but it was in a much smaller carpeted space. I am overwhelmed at this point with brands, finding someone to run wire, considering maybe just going front powered floor speakers or 3.1 system to avoid the hassle of the attic and running wires. The attic is freakin me out cause its cathedral ceilings. There is really a lot of room up there but I'm very intimidated because there is a whole lot of insulation including blown in stuff. If I could just pull back the paper backed insulation and look around it would be fine but the blown in stuff has everything burried and whether I go up there or hire someone that insulation will never be back the way it was and is supposed to be. Thats why I'm considering not even messing with the attic and runnning wire. Any advice and opinions on brand and the best way to get good sound in the room for my budget would be awesome. Thanks Randy
 

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So we just bought our first home. The living/television room has some challenges for surround sound and I'd like some advice please. Its 22' long 15' front to back and most of the ceiling is 12'. The front half of the room from front(TV) to back (couches) is marble floor. There are windows behind the couches. The wall behind is an outside wall. The rear surrond speakers will have to be run in the attic and down the walls. I started with a Bose Lifestyle 135 II sound bar, wireless sub and Bose brain. I was totally unimpressed for 2,000 dollars. My price range for everything will be 2-2,500. Ive been looking mostly at Definitive Technologies speakers so far only really based on the sales person at Magnolia (BestBuy). I had an Onkyo system before that was like 4-500 bucks and it rocked as far as I was concerned but it was in a much smaller carpeted space. I am overwhelmed at this point with brands, finding someone to run wire, considering maybe just going front powered floor speakers or 3.1 system to avoid the hassle of the attic and running wires. The attic is freakin me out cause its cathedral ceilings. There is really a lot of room up there but I'm very intimidated because there is a whole lot of insulation including blown in stuff. If I could just pull back the paper backed insulation and look around it would be fine but the blown in stuff has everything burried and whether I go up there or hire someone that insulation will never be back the way it was and is supposed to be. Thats why I'm considering not even messing with the attic and runnning wire. Any advice and opinions on brand and the best way to get good sound in the room for my budget would be awesome. Thanks Randy

How about running the speaker wire behind the baseboards? You would have a couple of options...depending on how your flooring was installed, there should be a small gap between where the flooring ends and the wall begins (covered by the baseboard). You can either take the baseboard off and run the wire in that gap, or open up a few spots in the drywall behind the baseboard and run the wire behind the drywall. If you google 'running speaker wire behind baseboards" you'll get some additional how to info. Hope that helps.
 

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There are several doors and open hallways in both directions making it impossible to run behind baseboards.
 

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This would make a very nice system and stay in your budget.


AVR $500 http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR5007/MARANTZ-SR5007-100w-x7-NetworkingTheater-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-4K/1.html

Sub $600 http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html

Speakers $1150
http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProCenter-Compact-Speaker/dp/B000UW270Y/ref=pd_sim_e_2

Two pair http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B000V41XII


There are many speaker choices that would be equal or perhaps better, but I would suggest keeping your budget distributed among the different parts in a similar fashion.

If I were to take money out of a segment it would be the AVR and I would add that money to the speakers.


I would do whatever it takes to get the speaker wires where they need to be. IMO it will be well worth it.
 

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This would make a very nice system and stay in your budget.


AVR $500 http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/MARSR5007/MARANTZ-SR5007-100w-x7-NetworkingTheater-Receiver-w/AirPlay-3D-4K/1.html

Sub $600 http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html

Speakers $1150
http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProCenter-Compact-Speaker/dp/B000UW270Y/ref=pd_sim_e_2

Two pair http://www.amazon.com/Definitive-Technology-ProMonitor-Bookshelf-Speaker/dp/B000V41XII


There are many speaker choices that would be equal or perhaps better, but I would suggest keeping your budget distributed among the different parts in a similar fashion.

If I were to take money out of a segment it would be the AVR and I would add that money to the speakers.


I would do whatever it takes to get the speaker wires where they need to be. IMO it will be well worth it.
How does the http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html compare to the SVS http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/PB-1000#.UtG1RhiA3IU ? What am I gaining going with a used Marantz over a new Pioneer or Onkyo with the same features? Thanks for the input!
 

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How does the http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/vtf-2mk4.html compare to the SVS http://www.svsound.com/subwoofers/ported-box/PB-1000#.UtG1RhiA3IU ? What am I gaining going with a used Marantz over a new Pioneer or Onkyo with the same features? Thanks for the input!

The Marantz has the very very good Audysse room correction software the Pioneer will lack. Some Onkyo models have it but an inferior version. It makes a huge difference.
 

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I did end up getting the wires run through the attic and down the wall. Decided to switch the TV to the other side of the room so here we go again.
 
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