[ReplayEric]



-Bug Fix:

Pronto Users rejoice. You can now save some of the space on you pronto by entering the IR codes in Pronto Edit as RC6 codes.

1) Select the button you want to change and bring up the properties menu.

2) Select the action tab.

3) Press the RC5/6 button.

4) Select RC6 mode 6A.

5) Customer Code is 1

6) System code is 0

7) The command is relative to the key you want.


I will let someone else come up with the command to function map.

This should have worked since 1.0 but there is a bug in the Pronto that send out too long of a header pulse at the start of a code. I adjusted the decode so it would be recognized.


NOTE: Any commands you find that work but are not on the released remote are considered unsupported. This means we can change, remove or generally muck with them as much as we want and I don’t want to hear any complaining if we do. You have been warned.


-Undocumented, Unsupported Feature:

The 3.0 software has an unsupported feature that may interest some of you. That is ReplayTV and Showstopper can be set to respond to a remote with a unique ID. Some notes before I go into any descriptions. This is not an official feature, blah, blah, blah, may not be supported in the future, blah, blah, blah, no complaining about the implementation, (you may hurt my feelings). I added it specifically for the people here on the forum but had little time to make it more robust. Also don’t call tech-support about this, they don’t know about it and no we don’t have any remote set to other ID’s. That said, here is what it does:


A ReplayTV /Showstopper will always respond to the factory remote. With this feature you can also get you ReplayTV / SS to respond to another remote that another ReplayTV/SS in the same room won’t respond to.


To set up a remote with another ID you will need a learning remote and probably access to a Pronto with the Pronto Edit software. When you set up a key, as described above, in the Pronto Edit software you can select the remote ID by entering 0-14 in the system field. ID 0 will always be recognized by a ReplayTV/SS. If you have another type of learning remote you can teach it from Pronto that has been set up.


To teach your ReplayTV/SS what additional ID to respond to you need to follow the following steeps.

1) Power cycle your ReplayTV/SS by unplugging the power for 10 seconds the plugging it back in.

2) Wait for the unit to completely boot up.

3) Use any remote command with the ID you want that unit to respond to.

4) The ReplayTV/SS will now work with that ID.


This Setting is lost between power cycles. So if your ReplayTV reboots it will no longer respond to the new ID and you will need to go through the above steps again. I know this sounds weird but I only had about an hour slip it in. So, it is what it is.


Also 2xxx series ReplayTVs will now respond to the same keyboard commands as the 3xxx series ReplayTV and Showstopper.



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Eric

ReplayTV, Inc.

ReplayTV. Some televisions have all the fun
http://www.replaytv.com

 

[Ryan]

THANK YOU!...that's twice today; it's been a good day!


Now can someone explain this in English? Robman?


How do I explain to my wife about the $250 remote we now need.


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Ryan

 

[RandyL712]

Eric!! Buddy!! http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


VERY nice... now I just need to find a store with a generous return policy that sells Prontos!


WOOHOO!


Just so I understand - if I 'teach' one of my Replays to use the "2ndary" remote, it WONT use the normal remote, right?

 

[Craig Colvin]

WOW! Thanks this is great.


For those interested I have a list of the mappings of the Pronto RC6 commands to the ReplayTV commands available on my website at http://www.craigcolvin.com/pronto/replaycodes.html


I haven't had a chance to try a different system code yet to see how it works with my 2 Replays. I should have that worked out later tonight.


-- Craig

 

[zzzzdoc]

OK, Anyone, Bueller, Bueller, Robman?


Nice going, Eric. We always love for our pleas for obscure features to be answered.

 

[Ryan]

Randy:


Eric says, "A ReplayTV /Showstopper will always respond to the factory remote.."


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Ryan

 

[RandyL712]

Ryan,


SO... If you have two units you still can't use the factory remote http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/frown.gif


I'm NOT complaining, just trying to get the lowdown. You set one replay to System Code 3 and the other to 4 (just an example), then they won't understand each other's remote functions.


GREAT feature, PLEASE make it a permanent (so that it won't go away with a reboot or powerloss!)

 

[The Robman]

Hey Criag,

I would expect that commands 19, 21, 23 and 25 are the diagonal arrow buttons (ie, 19=NE, 21=SE, 23=SW and 25=NW).


For the rest of you, let me try and clarify what this means. Eric has set things up so that you can make your multiple RTV units (whatever the brand) respond to remote commands that are unique to that device. The base set of commands (the ZERO set) that comes with your original Replay remotes will always work on all your units, but you can program each unit to also respond to an addition set of commands. The hard part is that you will need a Philips Pronto to create the new commands, as I can't think of any other way of creating them. The good news is that Pronto users can share files, so you don't have to worry about getting up to speed learning how to program the Pronto as we will have files very soon that you can simply download and load into your Pronto.


Here's one way that you could use these new codes, you could set up unique POWER buttons that only control one of your multiple units, this way you can ensure that only the desired unit is on, then you can use your regular Replay remote. If you are going to keep the Pronto, you could set up seperate devices for each Replay unit.


Just FYI: if you want to buy a Pronto, they are on sale at http://www.etronixs.com for only $265 with free shipping. The normal retail price is $399, so this is a very good deal.


When we eventually figure out how to add our own codes to UEIC remotes (like the Radio Shack 15-1994 and the Replay remtoes) we will be able to add the new codes to the remotes.


So, did that help explain things, or just make them more confusing?


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Later,

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/

 

[Craig Colvin]

Quote:

Originally posted by The Robman: Here's one way that you could use these new codes, you could set up unique POWER buttons that only control one of your multiple units, this way you can ensure that only the desired unit is on, then you can use your regular Replay remote. If you are going to keep the Pronto, you could set up seperate devices for each Replay unit.

That's how I set mine up last night just to save time (and memory, my Pronto is running a little tight on space right now). I used the power buttons to switch between devices (much better than the power toggle I was using) and then just used my existing Replay setup on my Pronto to control the device. Works great!!

Quote:

I would expect that commands 19, 21, 23 and 25 are the diagonal arrow buttons (ie, 19=NE, 21=SE, 23=SW and 25=NW).

You were correct. I've updated the list to reflect these codes.

The only one left to figure out is 17.




[This message has been edited by Craig Colvin (edited 11-15-2000).]

 

[The Robman]

The Pronto is a touch screen remote, so you can design the screen layouts to suit your tastes. Therefore, if you desire, you could have a Quick Skip1 and Quick Skip2 on the same screen. But what is more likely is that you will set up multiple device screens, so you select which Replay you wish to operate and then the controls will work just that one unit, when you want to watch the second unit, you would tab over to the device screen for that unit and do your thing!


Hey, if you have two TV's in the same room, you could get two Prontos (a "his" and "hers" if you will) and both you and your wife could be sitting there watching your own shows on your own Replays, but this doesn't really promote marital harmony, so I wouldn't really recommend it. http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/wink.gif


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Later,

Rob.
http://www.hifi-remote.com/

 

[Ryan]

Craig/Rob:


So, if I got a Pronto, I could set up some screens that have 2 copies each of indentical commands (say, both quickskip and instant replay) with different device numbers (not ZERO, of course) and have both Replays on at the same time?


If so, this is what I've been hoping for. I really would like to have both my Replays on and doing stuff at the same time in one room.


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Ryan


[This message has been edited by Ryan (edited 11-15-2000).]

 

[Craig Colvin]

Quote:

Originally posted by Ryan: So, if I got a Pronto, I could set up some screens that have 2 copies each of indentical commands (say, both quickskip and instant replay) with different device numbers (not ZERO, of course) and have both Replays on at the same time?

The answer is Yes.


It will be great for those times when my wife wants to watch something on one Replay why I watch something on the other. I should have this setup later today and will let you know if I encounter any problems. From my limited testing it looks like it shouldn't be a problem.


Eric -


A big THANKS for getting this into version 3.0, I will name my 1st born son after you. (Actually I already have when he was born 3 years ago in anticipation of this moment http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif )


-- Craig

 

[Craig Colvin]

For those of you who are interested I've updated my Pronto so it uses the new IR codes to control two Replay boxes. I used system command 1 for the 1st and system command 2 for the second. It works great.


You can download the .ccf from my Pronto page at...
http://www.craigcolvin.com/pronto/index.html


-- Craig

 

[Wayno]

ReplayEric, you are our hero!! I guess I'll have to get off my duff and redo my Pronto interface. I haven't been using the Pronto since receiving my 2nd ReplayTv because the way I had it set up it wouldn't work with 2 units. (basically whenever I hit the Replay screen I had it macro'ing to set the proper source on my AV unit, and giving the discreet power on so it would power up both my machines)


THANK YOU!!, THANK YOU!!



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Wayne Dunham

[email protected]

 

[Wayno]

Craig,

Thanks for doing the footwork on getting it into your Pronto. I've printed off the description pages and downloaded the .ccf file. They will help a lot in getting my Pronto up to date.



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Wayne Dunham

[email protected]

 

[Craig Colvin]

No problem. I was excited to have this functionality finally available and had a couple of days off of work so I went for it.


It is ironic that I had purchased a Ocelot to do IR conversion and had spent the night before Eric's announcement getting it programmed so I could control my 2 Replays with it. I was going to hook it up that night when I found out about this new feature. The free solution was much appreciated to my $200 solution.


Anybody want to buy a slightly programmed never used Ocelot? http://www.avsforum.com/ubb/smile.gif


-- Craig