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I had the opportunity yesterday to see several examples of both the 60 and 70 series. Although the styling on the 60 is a matter of preference I found the picture quality to be very good. In fact the black level and viewing angle appeared as good as any others sets there. The 120 processing seemd to work very well indeed. The 70 series was the same quality as the 60 but a more traditional look. I know that black lever and viewing angle are often used as weaknesses in LG models but I could not see it. I saw the 52", 47" and 42" in the 60 but only the 42" and 47" in the 70 series.


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I had the opportunity yesterday to see several examples of both the 60 and 70 series. Although the styling on the 60 is a matter of preference I found the picture quality to be very good. In fact the black level and viewing angle appeared as good as any others sets there. The 120 processing seemd to work very well indeed. The 70 series was the same quality as the 60 but a more traditional look. I know that black lever and viewing angle are often used as weaknesses in LG models but I could not see it. I saw the 52", 47" and 42" in the 60 but only the 42" and 47" in the 70 series.


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Did one of the two models had better black levels than the other?
 

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Quick review of the LG70 (47").


-Movies on blu-ray (ps3) look Amazing! TruMotion works well on 'low' but skips during playback on 'high' and makes it hard to watch. I tried both animated movies and regular movies with same results. But kids and wife LOVED the look of the movies. Finally saw that 'soap opera' effect people speak about..looks like I was watching the movie through a window or watching actors perform on stage, very much so on 'high' but way less on 'low.'


-Regular tv watching was decent and what you would expect for a HDTV. Nothing to really report as it's the same as most HDTV's.


-HDTV looks good and very detailed (I use Bell Express). Blacks are decent and there are a lot of options for changing calibrations/etc.


-Stand for the tv is very wobbly (as reported in other LG models). Display itself looks nice despite the red trim on outter part of tv.


-HUGE NEGATIVE is that it it suffers from Triple Ball Effect. I was shocked that a newly released tv suffers from this and very disappointed. I tried various settings and display options (true motion 'off' and 'low' and 'high') such as their 'expert settings' and every other pre-set calibration they had, but all with same result. I watched golf, baseball, tennis and some CFL football and all suffered from it. Looked like balls had 2 rings around them when in flight.


-Sound is basically what you expect from a HDTV so not much to say...not great and not bad.


My set suffered from clouding on the right side (from top to bottom in a thin line) and when camera moves on tv shows you can see faint vertical lines on screen (most likely just my unit).


I will be returning this ASAP due to the triple ball effect (assume this is what it's called) and other issues with my specific unit (which probably aren't an issue with all units). So annoyed about the triple ball issue..shocking as I previously had an older version of LG that didn't have this issue but their new release, with 120 and fast response time, does.


I owed a XF550 from Toshiba and a Samsung 530 and if it wasn't for the triple ball issue I would put the LG ahead of the Sammy, especially while viewing blu-ray (not even close), but behind the Toshiba which had a better 'motion' that was much smoother and didn't have any issues with triple ball or sports related material.


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Oh...and if you have any questions or want me to check things for you on the LG70 unit ask quick as I'll probably be returning it by end of this long weekend (Canada).



My knowledge is limited so make questions simple...hehe
 

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I have a 70 and there's no triple ball effect on mine. You didn't mention the Intelligent Sensor, which is one of the best features of the TV.
 

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Turbo...u watched sports and saw no triple ball? It was brutal on my unit, especially watching womens golf last night (was only testing, not enjoying the golf, i swear..hehe)? What settings are u using?


Not a fan of the Sensor...I liked the expert 1 or 2 settings and even standard.


But shocked u have no triple ball..like I said, saw it on baseball, tennis, golf and football..glad u don't have it..was very very pronounced on mine.


Thanks for the feedback.
 

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Yea I'm watching tennis and soccer right now. Saw the Tiger golf game a couple weeks back. No triple ball.


With high def movies and commercials, the TruMotion on high looks amazing. I only notice the occassional artifact when watching low def commercials.


The Intelligent Sensor works good for me because this TV is in my living room where there are lots of windows and I can't control the amount of lighting.
 

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I've had my 47LG70 for three days and I'm really loving this TV! My last TV was a JVC 56FC97. The LG is better than the JVC in every way. The picture is bright and sharp. Even with the 120Hz turned off, I found it to have less blur than the JVC. The anti-glare screen is amazing. One of the main reasons I got a LG was because of this. I have multiple windows in my living room, and even if I position the TV so that it is directly facing a window, glare is not an issue. I can see glare from the shiny frame around the screen, but nothing from the screen itself. I also really like the swivel stand. I was going to buy a wall mount just so I would be able to swivel the TV. This stand saved me from having to do that. I have to mention that when I first turned on the TV, I was not crazy about the PQ. It took a bit of tuning before I was happy with it.


When I was looking at this set at the store, I was not able to see the difference between the TruMotion on vs off demo. Now that I've had more time with it, I can definitely see a difference. This feature is most noticeable when the background changes quickly, like when the camera pans. It gives a strange smoothness to the picture that doesn't seem right at first. Perhaps it's because I'm use to seeing some blur in these situations. I got use to it after awhile. TruMotion can be set to High, low, or off. On the high setting, I have seen it cause the picture to get pixely / noisy around the fast moving object. Low setting reduces this effect a lot, but it can still occur sometimes. The good news is you can turn it completely off if it really bother you. I have it set to low and in my opinion, it does more good than bad.


I don't think I saw any Triple ball effect. When watching tennis, there was a slight blur to the ball, but I'm pretty sure that it's from the source, and not the set. It was very minor and didn't bother me at all.


The Intelligent sensor is a nice thing to have. I was able to test this out by shining a flash light on the sensor. It's kind of cool seeing the settings change on their own on the on-screen menu. The only beef I have with this feature is it changes more than just the Backlight brightness. It changes other settings like Sharpness and Color. Also, with the intelligent sensor on, you won't be able to adjust the sharpness or color settings. At first I didn't care for this feature, but it got better after a bit of tweaking and started to grow on me.


Overall, I'm very happy with this TV. The only thing that could have been better is if TruMotion worked without any hiccups. But even so, I still highly recommend this TV.
 

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I looked at both these TV's today. They are pretty much identical, but with trumotion turned on high, its pretty much too annoying. Low gives good results though.
 

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After having my 70 for over 3 weeks, I did see some TBE while watching football. Since I have a PVR, I was able to replay that scene with different settings to see if it made a difference. I found that the TBE was gone when TruMotion was turned off, but when it was set to low or high, it would appear. This was the first and only time I saw it. Of course I don't watch football much. I never saw it when watching tennis or golf.
 

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I got this 47 a couple days ago..very good price in brandsmart..here in miami.


anyways, im having problems setting the tv. can someone please post their settings so I can give them a try...On auto , it just doesnt work well playing games on PS3..Also for the 120hz to work , do I need to have truemotion on...

Im not sure if I like this thing on..its real weird.
 

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"LG 47LG70 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)"



does this mean that truemotion must be off to get the 120hz??


i got the above from a forum..
 

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"LG 47LG70 (1080P/24 correctly refreshed at 120HZ when Truemotion is off and Real Cinema is on)"



does this mean that truemotion must be off to get the 120hz??


i got the above from a forum..

120hz = trumotion

So turn it on if you want 120hz

And I totally agree with you that it does make things look wierd. I think the PQ is pretty good with trumotion off.
 

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My HD picture quality is not to good...first time with cable(comcast), and it looks grainy sometimes..anyone with the same problem??


any settings would be appreciated
 

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My HD picture quality is not to good...first time with cable(comcast), and it looks grainy sometimes..anyone with the same problem??


any settings would be appreciated

Is your cable (comcast) HD? If it's SD, it's not going to look too good. If your sharpness is turned up too much, it could make things look more grainy. Try turning that down.
 

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Is your cable (comcast) HD? If it's SD, it's not going to look too good. If your sharpness is turned up too much, it could make things look more grainy. Try turning that down.


I have sharpness @ 64

my cable is comcast hd..

it looks like I get the grainy effect only when there is fast movement..

I have truemotion off!!


THanks for any opinions
 
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