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We've been talking about this projector in the over budget forum but it should be here.

Updated: Optoma HD33 HD3300 review and screenshots.

http://www.optomausa.com/products/detail/HD33


This projector has pure motioning processing a 6x rgb/rgb/ color wheel and will support 1080p 3D over HDMI or VGA. Price is $1499.00, glasses are $99 and run on RF frequency which is much better and IR that most competitors use.

Sounds like a great bang for the buck. It also has seperated tuning memories for 3D and 2D.



I can edit in sought after info to make it easy:


Projector delivered.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/OptomaHD33.jpg



2D pictures tuned with DVE only needed contrast and brightness changes color pattern was fine blue filter showed balance. Contrast had to be brought down to -18 to avoid white clipping.


Screenshots with basic tuning for 2D.

Nice contrast in the Twin Pines Mall shot.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf1.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf2.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33bttf3.jpg

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33fifthe1.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33fifthe2.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33fifthe3.jpg


More screenshots after using colorfacts to tune the 2D grayscale.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d1.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d2.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d3.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d4.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d5.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d6.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d7.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d8.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd33d65k2d9.jpg
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/hd330010c.jpg



Here are the charts after tuning with colorfacts to D65k, 2.32gamma.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/OptomaHD33D65k.jpg


CIE
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/OptomaHD33CIE.jpg


Here's the emitter it's got about 3' detachable wire on it.

http://www.videodementia.com/sales/iremitter.jpg


3D glasses, the glasses are very comfortable.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/3dglasses.jpg


Here are the colorfacts calibrated numbers, might come in handy.


1080i Component signal

Cinema

contrast -14

brightness 0

Sharp 12

Color +8

Tint 0

Advanced

Gamma Standard

R gain -4

G gain 0

B gain +1

R bias +2

G bias -1

B bias +4


HDMI 2D

Contrast -18

Brightness -2

Sharp 11

Color 15

Tint 0


Advanced

Gamma Film

R gain -5

G gain 0

B gain -1

R bias -1

G bias 0

B bias 0


After 100hrs your lamp is broken in and there's a color shift which stablizes so here's a set of D65k tuned numbers for that. -


This one is a 2.20 gamma for digital video choosing the Film gamma choice.


2D HDMI

User

Contrast -18

Bright -3

Sharp 12

Color -2

Tint +4


Advanced

Gamma Film

Color Temp Warm


RGB/gain bias

R gain -4

g gain -1

b gain +1


R bias +1

G bias +1

B bias 0



This one can be saved seperatly under Cinema it's a 2.5gamma or CRT type gamma for when after your lamp breaks in. This will show a darker image you might like for movie watching. The other 2.2 gamma tuning save it under User for HDTV, switch back and forth your preference.


Cinema

Contrast -31

Bright 0

Sharp 12

Color +4

Tint 0


Advanced

Gamma Standard

Color Temp Warm

Red gain +1

Grn gain 0

blu gain =5


Red bias -2

Grn bias 0

Blu bias -1






Lumens on a 106" 1.0 screen - using a light meter back at the screen.
http://www.videodementia.com/sales/h...ight265hrs.jpg

That's 49 foot candles a very high reading.


2D basic tuned OTB 1440 lumens low lamp


3D OTB 2040 lumens bright mode / graphic gamma, 3D is factory tuned for when viewing with the glasses on. There is no 3D tuning software yet.


2D tuned down to D65k 1080lumens low lamp


Lumens adjusted to using shortest throw / max opened zoom. Knock 20% off the numbers when using long throw minimum zoomed lens.


Wing at Optoma gave me this info:

"Saw a few persons interested in the difference between HD33 and HD20




Here are more technical details for you.




While HD33 and HD20 do share some optical components to get the economy of scale, the electronics and chassis of HD33 is totally revamped to display 3D and enhance 2D also.


The color wheel speed is faster to give less rainbow, the new bigger chassis also makes the projector a bit quieter and no front grill eliminates the tiny amount light spill that some users have shown concern with HD20




The data bandwidth and processing power has to be at least doubled internally in order to display 3D 1080p at 120Hz




With such extra bandwidth and processing power on hand, the 2D image quality is also significantly enhanced.




DMD mirrors can now turn on and off even faster – this translates to even better color and grayscale rendering.


This improvement is more easily noticeable in a dark scene – the dithering noises are much less noticeable and give smoother dark details




This extra processing power also helps to improve the image digitally


- PureDetails, can sharpen the image selectively, the edges and corners of the image is sharpened but not the noises


- PureColor can enhance the color selectively makes less saturated color more saturated but already saturated colors will not be too oversaturated


- PureMotion – this is Optoma’s frame interpolation technology that works in both 2D and 3D, not only can it eliminate motion judder, it can also make fast action sport or action movie visibly clearer to see by adding interpolating frames. (note the default setting is a bit conservative, to intentionally keep a small amount of judder to give some resemblance of film)"

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Very much looking forward to hearing your thoughts, guitarman! I'm currently using an Optoma HD80 which I enjoy very much but have been looking for its possible 3D replacement. My only question is whether or not I will notice a difference in the contrast ratio between the two units in a dedicated, completely darkened HT space.
 

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We'll see, Wing says the HD33 look spectacular he's been working on the 3D media for a while now. The true motion and 6x rgb/rgb wheel are high points for the image. Can't wait till Friday.
 

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When you say "separate tuning memories", are you referring to its ability to do separate calibrations for 2D and 3D signals?
 

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I got this info from their engineer mgr looked important.


"Right now only Blu-ray 3D is true 1080p 3D and is fully supported.by HD33


Other 3D sources such as DirecTV are 1080i 3D, but sport channel like ESPN 3D then is 720p, games are mostly 720p 3D – all such 3D format are also supported HD33 and upscaled to 1080p 3D by HD33"
 

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I just read that these have now been released to retailers. (???)


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the 33 is for sale already it seems at 2 places(It let me add to cart any ways)
 

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Here in the Bay Area headquarters they have an initial shipment but the flood gates will open soon. Maybe Best Buy will get a few.
 

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Been waiting for this one. Ugh, looks like I'll have to sell all of my DLP link glasses I use with my Acer H5360...
 

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6x speed sounds very promising. I've seen other optoma with 6x wheel and they show very little RBE for me, whereas 4x is quite obvious for me unfortunately.


Wonder what the price in EU is going to be, haven't seen it on sale yet.


Using their throw calculator it seems I'll have to use a 10 feet wide screen for my setup(rear shelf mounting) - it better be bright!
 

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This package includes the Optoma HD33 Projector, one remote control with batteries, RF emitter for 3D glasses, one composite video cable, one lens cap, an A/C power cord, multilingual CD-ROM user's manual, quick-start card and warranty card.

hmmmm.... RF emitter for 3D glasses
 
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