[xfws]

"Panasonic Announces its Flagship Camcorders: The High Definition HDC-HS300, HDC-TM300, and HDC-HS250"


All three camcorders record in full HD/1920 x 1080 with the "3MOS" system (three 1/4.1-inch CMOS sensors).


The three flagship models leading Panasonic's high definition lineup are scheduled for release in April. The anticipated MSRP for each camcorder is: HDC-HS300 ($1399.95), HDC-TM300 ($1299.95), HDC-HS250 ($999.95).

camcorderinfo
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...250-35963.htm#

 

[xfws]

Panasonic Introduces Three New SD Card Camcorders: The Standard Definition SDR-S15, SDR-S26, and SDR-SW21

The Panasonic SDR-SW21 will be available in lime green, orange, or silver for an expected MSRP of $399.95. The SDR-S15 will be available in black, silver, or chocolate for an expected MSRP of $299.95. The SDR-S26 will be available in champagne, black, blue, or red for an expected MSRP of $329.95. All three record exclusively to SD card and are expected to ship in April.
camcorderinfo
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...SW21-35966.htm

 

[elifino]

And it would appear to be the only one of the big three to keep a viewfinder.

 

[NJ3118]



Quote:
Originally Posted by elifino /forum/post/15490745


And it would appear to be the only one of the big three to keep a viewfinder.

this will make a lot of people happy..


but then again panny is def 3rd in consumer HD cams....


Canon and Sony are ahead imo....

 

[img eL]

SDXC would work nice with these. I will pick up a HS or TM 300 this year

 

[elifino]

Every company has a larger sensor, larger glass, so it will not be as easy to say that. The lenses are also faster, Panny may become a serious player again.

 

[osv]

panny is certainly a serious avchd player with their hmc150... they are leading the prosumer pack right now with that unit.

 

[Chevypower]



Quote:
Originally Posted by osv /forum/post/15497900


panny is certainly a serious avchd player with their hmc150... they are leading the prosumer pack right now with that unit.

.....In the AVCHD format. Sony is better off sticking with XDCAM EX in the prosumer stuff, which of course gets updated in April at NAB.

 

[baipai]

Does any one know what's the bit rate?

 

[osv]



Quote:
Originally Posted by Chevypower /forum/post/15499351


.....In the AVCHD format. Sony is better off sticking with XDCAM EX in the prosumer stuff, which of course gets updated in April at NAB.

the xdcam ex costs twice as much as the hmc150, hardly a fair comparison.


you watch and see how many prosumer cams will be running h.264 in the next couple of years.

 

[Paulo Teixeira]



Quote:
Originally Posted by baipai /forum/post/15502984


Does any one know what's the bit rate?

I thought it was 17 but according to this article that someone linked to on hv20.com, it claims that it goes up to 24MBPS.
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/10026.html

Please let that be true.

 

[slimoli]

First impressions from camcorderinfo reports just 17 Mbps for the top of the line:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...view-36059.htm


The Japanese Panasonic site also confirms the 17Mbps maximum.

 

[baipai]



Quote:
Originally Posted by slimoli /forum/post/15512977


First impressions from camcorderinfo reports just 17 Mbps for the top of the line:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...view-36059.htm


The Japanese Panasonic site also confirms the 17Mbps maximum.

I don't understand the logic why do they cap it at 17Mbps? These cam have potential with 3mos. Oh well back to the Canon then.

 

[img eL]

Yeah I would want 24bit avchd as well. I'm not worried about it though if it does not. As it is right now 17bit native/raw avchd editing is cpu, ram intensive. 24bit takes even more resources & is less smooth to raw edit. 24bit also takes up more space. The avchd editing software side has a way to go & its also come along way.

 

[KyaDawn]



Quote:
Originally Posted by NJ3118 /forum/post/15492442


this will make a lot of people happy..


but then again panny is def 3rd in consumer HD cams....


Canon and Sony are ahead imo....

Maybe in terms of sales, but my Panny HDC-HS100 is MILES better than my Sony HDR-HC7.

 

[Chevypower]



Quote:
Originally Posted by KyaDawn /forum/post/15618428


Maybe in terms of sales, but my Panny HDC-HS100 is MILES better than my Sony HDR-HC7.

Hmmm a chip AVCHD Panasonic versus a single chip HDV Sony.... quite a fair comparison! I suppose the Varicam is also better than the Sony SR12.... Yes Panasonic is way better then! LOL. Seriously, model for model, I find the Sonys are ahead of the Pannys. But on Panasonic's side, Sony has left a gap between the Sony SR12, and some of the semi pro stuff like the Z5, Z7 and EX1. Panasonic has seen an opportunity and cashed in, and taken the name "AVCCAM" - looks like Panasonic tried to pre-empt Sony's marketing team from taking that name and cashing in on adding the new format to their pro family. ie: BetaCAM, DVCAM, HD-CAM, XDCAM. To keep it more consistent with Panasonic, they should have called it AVCPRO (like DVCPRO). I don't expect Sony to bring AVCHD to the pro lineup, but I do see XDCAM EX getting smaller, more affordable models. Interestingly, Sony has licensed XDCAM EX technology to JVC, who now has made an affordable semi pro camera with 35mbs. http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/f...l_id=MDL101845 tiny sensor and lens though.

 

[HDgeneration]

Anyone planning on getting the Panasonic HDC-HS300..i heard some good reviews and it might even beat the Canon Vixias.

 

[Paulo Teixeira]

Original Japanese:
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English Translated:
Translated version of http://av.watch.impress.co.jp/docs//20090218/zooma399.htm

 

[oldcpu]



Quote:
Originally Posted by HDgeneration /forum/post/15777514


Anyone planning on getting the Panasonic HDC-HS300..i heard some good reviews and it might even beat the Canon Vixias.

I'm tempted by the Panasonic HDC-HS300. I'm still researching and trying to find some more info. I'll see if I can find the links to the reviews/articles I saw ...

 

[oldcpu]



Quote:
Originally Posted by oldcpu /forum/post/15918225


I'm tempted by the Panasonic HDC-HS300. I'm still researching and trying to find some more info. I'll see if I can find the links to the reviews/articles I saw ...

I found these articles on the Panasonic HDC-HS300. .... I hope this is not considered "spam" ...

Camcorder forum
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=161

Panasonic page:
http://www2.panasonic.com/consumer-e...702#tabsection

Panasonic HDC HS300 youtube video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7jEjE6nd3A

1st. Panasonic HDC HS300 Review:
http://techalites.com/2009/02/17/pan...corder-review/

2nd. Panasonic HDC HS300 Review:
http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content...view-36059.htm


Does anyone have any other reviews/articles they can share ?


I confess the signficance of the 24bit avchd vis the 17bit native/raw avchd is completely lost on me. Is this important only for playback? or is it important for recording the raw video ? (ie why does this make a difference to some users ? ).