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Ever since seeing the Demo on CNET, i've been extremely intrigued by this unit.

The thought of having rechargable detachable rears is pretty genius. Also with the addition of bluetooth, hdmi connections, and orientation sensors makes this the top choice for me on paper that is. It had a scheduled release date of May, but I have not found one in any local stores. I see that it has been released in Europe. There are some youtube reviews in foreign languages which I can't understand. But would like some feedback on this if anyone has played with one or owns one.



CNET Link

http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/philips-fidelio-soundbar-htl9100/4505-7868_7-35566995.html




Heres a link for the philips in europe

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=nl&ctn=HTL9100/12



And I think this is a first impressions / review video. Dont understand what he is saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_NwfZJutL4
 

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I've been waiting for this one too, and keep checking for reviews. My calls to Philips were unenlightening.


The review's in Dutch, but all I could make out that was that he thinks it's good.

He liked the wealth of connectivity options, commented on the automatic sensor that adjusted output, based on how the soundbar is mounted or positioned.


The rest was a mystery.
 

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Hi,


You can start finding them online. At least here on the french side of marketplaces like Amazon, Pixmania, etc.

I've ordered mine today. Kind of a leap of faith since there is almost no review...

I should get it by the end of next week.

Since I know the feeling of finding almost nothing on the product if you have questions I could try to answer them.

Keep in mind that I'm not a specialist (which could be inferred from this purchase since I didn't buy a "real 5.1" ).
 

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This French web site was not impressed by the sound quality giving the system just 2 Stars. One comment poster asked if the tester had the "auto volume control" on or off as it made a night and day diffrence. All other products in the Fidelio range seem to have good reviews, so its kind of surprisng that the top of the line model has a sound quality problem.


http://google translate of Lesnumeriques review] http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lesnumeriques.com%2Fenceintes-home-cinema%2Fphilips-hdn9100-p15942%2Ftest.html%23test-completet[/URL]


However there are 4 very happy German buyers / 5 star reviewers on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/product-reviews/B00BBUUDS2/ref=sr_cr_hist_5?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addFiveStar&showViewpoints=0
 

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I have had one of these for about a week and a half now and I'm very impressed with the unit I have purchased.


I chose this sound bar over other (specifically the Sonos PlayBar) because it came with additional 5.1 speakers included for about the same price, was an all in one solution and had multiple inputs. One downside is that I won't be able to add extra speakers or features as with the Sonos.


One of the features that persuaded me to purchase the Philips over the Sonos was that it had HDMI in (x2) and out as well as digital/optical audio, the Sonos does not have HDMI, just digital/optical.


My TV, a Toshiba 42CV505DB is now 5 years old but still going strong and not in need of being replaced. This TV will only output from digital audio using in inbuilt Freeview/DTV, not from an HDMI source. As I wanted to connect my Sky+ HD PVR, Xbox 360 and DVD/Blue-ray player I had the choice of getting a digital audio splitter and manually changing the input each time or getting a unit that could accept multiple inputs from HDMI.


Packaging was efficient and tight, on unboxing initial impression was that the the construction seems solid, however the sub is bigger than I expected - some marketing/photography perspective trick
. The 5.1 speakers clip on and off the main unit in a reassuring fashion. There are wall mounting clips in the box which I didn't really do too much investigation into as my TV is on a stand. The item was dispatched from the Netherlands and did not include UK plugs within the main box, however there were standard UK kettle leads included within the overall box sent from Philips.


Setup was easy, not many wires; two HDMI in from Sky and Xbox, one out to the TV and power to the sound bar. The sub and main unit were synchronised with each other. It took less than 10 minutes to get everything going from unboxing to sitting on the sofa.


The remote is simple and not cluttered with extra features. I found that the system had a little too much bass out of the box but this is easily adjustable along with the treble.


I found that after a few minutes or so my Toshiba recognised the HTL9100 as a REGZA-LINK device. My TV was already linked to my Sky Remote to power on and adjust the volume so with the REGZA-LINK the Sky Remote volume control was adjusting the volume on the "amplifier". It also turned off the amplifier when the TV was turned off, an pleasant surprise



Detaching the speakers is simple and after 1-2 seconds of readjustment to sense their position send out 5.1 sound. I find this a useful feature as I don't need surround sound when watching the news or everyday TV, however when putting on a movie or watching live sport picking off the speakers and putting them around the room is a nice compromise to wiring in and powering dedicated speakers. The battery life is reasonable; 10 hours according to the bumpf which seems more than enough.


One feature I didn't think I would use is the Bluetooth capability but syncing my phone (an Android) was very simple, put the unit into Bluetooth by pressing the Bluetooth button on the remote, find the device on my phone and play tracks. I'm thinking of getting a Bluetooth dongle for my PC it's that useful.


The Mrs was a little sceptical of spending so much on a sound bar, however when I came home the other day she was doing a bit of housework and was taking one of the detachable speakers around the house with her to listen to her favourite radio station!


I purchased the item directly from Philips, I already had a 20% off voucher from Philips, however when I went to register I was offered a 25% off voucher with my next purchase. So I bought an (overpriced!) HDMI cable for £14.99 and then with the voucher got the HTL9100 for £525, reduced from the advertised price of £700. I did have a few problems with the Philips website rejecting two of my credit cards (and having two companies ring me us suspecting fraud) but after 24 hours this was sorted.


I think the sound quality is excellent, however I am by no means a pro when it comes to audio. Someone who listens to devices all day to rate them may give it two stars but I can't tell any difference between what I have and some demo systems in my local store (I've been back to compare too).


All in all very happy with my purchase and I would recommend for someone who wants a sound bar and the occasional 5.1 but doesn't need the complication of setting up separate speakers.
 

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I finally got it last tuesday !!


I agree on the packaging, very efficient but bigger sub than what I thought.

Setup is really plug power, hdmi and play. Sync between the different elements is still flawless for now


Sound can become incredibly loud for that size while keeping quality with no distortion (at least none I can spot).

For my hears it sounds very good, I'll update after a few more movies and music, time to really enjoy the thing being an issue for now (pray for rain this WE
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EDIT: I would add that you might have to play a bit with the level of bass and treble. I lowered the bass too high at default for my taste.


I have no yet had the opportunity to test the battery life of the speakers.


I use it as a sound bar for every day TV and go surround just for TV series or movies.


One slight hiccup : I had a problem with sound no getting through while connected to a pc with HDMI but no connection to a tv or projector (so no HDMI out connected)


I wanted to test so quickly that I didn't connected to the TV in the first 5 minutes. So is it configured to pass sound only when the image can pass through HDMI out ? Was it the PC ? I didn't test that further for the moment but xbox and mac work completely (image and sound) when connected to the soundbar which is connected to the TV.


I would also be careful to detach gently (at least not with a hammer) the wireless speakers because the fabric on top could go away if you detach violently IMHO



I'll take some pictures and update this post !



PICTURES !!!


Excuse for the mess with the cables, not sure yet to how I want it organized.

The shot of the subwoofer vs xbox will give you a good idea of the size, just know that the sub is not very deep, I'd say even less than the xbox in this position (not 100% sure and don't want to move everything again but you know, in that kind of size).

BTW, my tv is supposed to be a 107cm which translates to 42 inches I think.




 

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Please provide more information. Your description is a little ambiguous. If I am understanding correctly, I would first check the settings on your PC to make sure that the display/audio is set to output to HDMI, depending on whether you want one or both.
 

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I don't know what's up with the PC... I suspect the Creative drivers (soundcard) to mess something up.

My mac transmits sound with no problem and I tried with a friend PC (HP envy 13 something) that also worked.


Anyway, I can say that sound is going through and out in the speakers via HDMI IN even if the HDMI OUT is not connected !

False alarm



I'll also add to my first impressions that the rear speakers must be close to the listeners. I would say about not more than 1 meter away from your couch to really enjoy the rear effect. Further you hear them of course but it is less immersive IMHO.
 

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I received mine only with the continental europe powercord, not even the UK version.

You should not have any problem with voltage or whatever as it self-regulate.

But you will definitely need an adapter to use with the US power outlet.
 

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Originally Posted by sadaipan  /t/1473028/new-philips-fidelio-soundbar-htl9100#post_23558059


I received mine only with the continental europe powercord, not even the UK version.

You should not have any problem with voltage or whatever as it self-regulate.

But you will definitely need an adapter to use with the US power outlet.
sadaipan

the soundbar good for dts 5.1 or lg bh9530tw i need to help me

i have now chose between lg vs philips Is it good surround sound ؟؟ True

Thanks
 

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First of all, thanks guys for your reviews. I had my doubts that the 9100 could deliver what it promised, especially due to it's rather high price from a AV novice perspective, but you made the decision much easier. I will definitely try to get one of these soon.


One question though, on your picture, it does not look like the height of the sound bar is a problem at all. Since I'm still missing a proper low board with looooong central shelve (min. 105cm), I will have to put it directly in front of my future Samsung UE46F8090, too. Amazon lists the size of the bar as 25 x 75,5 x 36,1 cm

Philips Product Specs say "Main Unit (W x H x D): 1035 x 70 x 156mm"


This TV does not sit very high on it's stand, but not sure how high exactly. Could this be a problem with blocking the picture or remote control signal?
 

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It is now for sale in the US, but is now marketed as the HTL7180/F7. I am still waiting to hear one in person before biting the bullet.


Heres the link to the product from the US site.

http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?slg=en&scy=us&ctn=HTL7180/F7


Thanks to all thats reviewed it so far. Not sure if Davyo is still into sound bars, but it would be nice if he was and could chime in LOL.
 

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Originally Posted by GermanMG  /t/1473028/new-philips-fidelio-soundbar-htl9100#post_23588182


First of all, thanks guys for your reviews. I had my doubts that the 9100 could deliver what it promised, especially due to it's rather high price from a AV novice perspective, but you made the decision much easier. I will definitely try to get one of these soon.


One question though, on your picture, it does not look like the height of the sound bar is a problem at all. Since I'm still missing a proper low board with looooong central shelve (min. 105cm), I will have to put it directly in front of my future Samsung UE46F8090, too. Amazon lists the size of the bar as 25 x 75,5 x 36,1 cm

Philips Product Specs say "Main Unit (W x H x D): 1035 x 70 x 156mm"


This TV does not sit very high on it's stand, but not sure how high exactly. Could this be a problem with blocking the picture or remote control signal?

My tv is sitting at 8,5 cm above the shelf for the bottom and the screen starts at 12cm. So no problem with image nor IR blocking. I can only advise you check for yours (I did not and was lucky
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While it certainly delivers I would say that at this price (799€) it is a bit pricey. We are paying the novelty and ease of use. At 599€ (or even 699) it would be a no brainer to recommend it to everyone. For now I would say go for it only if the amount is no sacrifice for you. Otherwise I would wait for a small drop in price.
 

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Price on Amazon.de is 649€ for the HTL9100 right now. Might still be more expensive in the UK, but for now that's exactly the kind of drop I was waiting for. Will definitely write down my impressions when it arrives sometime this week.


Will have to get the TV higher by about 4-5cm to still see the full picture, but nothing that a little crafting can't solve.
 

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I received my Fidelio 7180 yesterday. The US model number is 7810/F7 not 9100/F7 as previously adverstised by Philips. By way of reference, this is my 3rd soundbar tryout over the past month. I have auditioned the SB30 by HK and the YSP-2200 both of which I returned. The Philips is an impressive piece of technology. The sound quality is very good but I would not call it great for the price. The SB30 sounded better and "warmer" overall. As compared to the YSP, the sound is definitely better. Base is on par with the YSP but below the SB30 which really excelled with the large subwoofer. Base response is acceptable for a movie but it does not deliver room shaking base.


The real key are the rear speakers. While the 7180 sounds good in 2.1 mode, when I removed the rears and tested them out with The Bourne Legacy, my living room completely came alive. It is night and day and the 7180 definitely creates a full surround experience. I placed the rears on the tops of my couch cushions right behind be and the sound was immersive. The volume cannot be adjusted on the rears but was not an issue for me. This could be an issue if you need to move them more than a few feet away from your ears. While the YSP is impressive in its own right, I found the sweet spot to be very narrow at least in my room. The 7180 is more flexible in that regard. The big question is whether the 7180 is worth the money. For me, the $250 over the price of the SB30 and YSP-2200 was worth it. I feel like the 7180 offers the closest thing to a surround experience and the least amount of compromise over other alternatives. If the street price comes down, this unit will be an absolute steal. The 7180 woud not beat a traditional set up but again that is not an option for me in my living room.
 
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